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    MOTUC vs DC is DEAD!

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    MOTUClassics.Com: Is Battle Armor Faker one of the six 2011 TRU MOTU/DC 2pks?

    It was one of the original six but at this point it will be the final pack as retailers have not ordered any additional packs and it looks like the line will end with this pack. The GL/Zodac and Supergirl/She-Ra packs should still hit before the end of the year now for a total of 5 packs. But the sixth pack will not move forward unfortunately. There just has not been enough interest from retailers to keep this line going. While we announced 6 packs and hoped to do 6, we could not find a retailer who would take the min order needed for the 6th pack.
    Maybe Mattel can sell the repaints separately from the DC figures? Here is the thread for that if you want Mattel to know that the MOTUC parts of the two packs can still have a home on Mattycollector.com!
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    I posted about this in the Q&A...such drama!

    I just read another answer that says if we want to see more we should support the stuff currently in stores, so we may never see she-ra or zodac, just like JLU toyman...
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    Queen Angella - Hunga the Harpy - Peekablue - Toy Catra - Veena - Red Knight - Vultak - Dylamug - Sibyline - Kex Queen

    Small creatures that need to happen: 3 main twiggets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judeh Simon View Post
    I posted about this in the Q&A...such drama!

    I just read another answer that says if we want to see more we should support the stuff currently in stores, so we may never see she-ra or zodac, just like JLU toyman...
    What?! JLU Toyman never came out. I wanted him the most of any JLU figure....and I collected a LOT of them. Man, this day is just FULL of great news today. /sarcasm.

    I figured the two-packs would stop. I never saw a single one at my ToysRUs though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkspecter View Post
    What?! JLU Toyman never came out. I wanted him the most of any JLU figure....and I collected a LOT of them. Man, this day is just FULL of great news today. /sarcasm.

    I figured the two-packs would stop. I never saw a single one at my ToysRUs though.
    I got more great news for you! There is no reissues of anyone after leech/hordak, only some older figures are slotted in and that's it so buy your toys on their first and only run!

    (Also, Toyman never came out because there wasn't enough demand for the other 3packs...but supposedly he was ready.)
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    What is all of this 6 packs talk?

    Are they not include the original 2 He-Man and Skeletor packs? Because unless I have my math wrong, 4 of these packs have already been released (the ones with He-Man, Skeletor, Mer-Man, and Stratos) and 3 more are coming (the Faker exclusive one, the She-Ra one, and the Zodac one). That would make for a total of 7, with a theoretical additional one being 8.

    EDIT: Nevermind, I just realized that they meant the 6 sets for this year, and not for the line as a whole. My bad!


    As for the "lack of interest from retailers"... there is only one retailer involved here... Toys R Us. And the new packs can't come out when the old ones are still clogging the shelves!


    But I can't say that I'm too upset about it. While this was a cool way to get a few variant repaints that we might not otherwise get, it's also extra money that I don't need to be spending. So I'll get the remaining packs as they become available and be done with it!
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    well this blowwwwwwwwwwwssssssssssssssssssssssss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia View Post
    What is all of this 6 packs talk?

    Are they not include the original 2 He-Man and Skeletor packs? Because unless I have my math wrong, 4 of these packs have already been released (the ones with He-Man, Skeletor, Mer-Man, and Stratos) and 3 more are coming (the Faker exclusive one, the She-Ra one, and the Zodac one). That would make for a total of 7, with a theoretical additional one being 8.


    As for the "lack of interest from retailers"... there is only one retailer involved here... Toys R Us. And the new packs can't come out when the old ones are still clogging the shelves!


    But I can't say that I'm too upset about it. While this was a cool way to get a few variant repaints that we might not otherwise get, it's also extra money that I don't need to be spending. So I'll get the remaining packs as they become available and be done with it!
    Thats what I thought as well, but then i realized it was six two-packs for 2011, which doesn´t include He-Man or Skeletor as they were from last year.

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    Darn, I liked them because they took all the repaints I would never want to buy and packaged them in a format that would never be included in the subscription. Like if they ever did a Green Trap-Jaw, I would have wanted it to be in a DC 2-pack so that I wouldn't be forced to buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judeh Simon View Post
    (Also, Toyman never came out because there wasn't enough demand for the other 3packs...but supposedly he was ready.)

    He was tooled and made (samples were sold on ebay via a Chinese seller).

    Scott/Toyguru has been telling the JLU collectors over on AFI and via Matty's forums that they had better support the S.T.R.I.P.E. sale or the 7-pack that was planned to finish the League, as well as the 3packs that included Toyman, Scott Alan GL, Jay Garrick Flash, etc. would never see the light of day.

    I think it's a bluff... I think those figures were produced because the samples showed up on ebay.

    BUT, that's beside the point. JLU stuff should have been sold on mattycollector and these 2-packs could have been planned better and sold there as well.

    Including TRU should only be for when there is a movie or a mega-hit TV show. They went for the retail thing way too soon.
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    There was no promotion behind these is what hurt them. Not one radio or TV ad. Back in the 80's even with 200x line there were TV commercials all over the place,but not with this. Honestly no one outside of someone who follows the He-man news knew they we're in retail. Mattel has to reach the people that DON'T know about the line for retail success to happen. You can't just put something in a store and hope it sells.

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    Bummer. I was looking forward to more figures in this line.
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    I also think what hurt them were lackluster choices with little or no change to the original toys.
    I want NA Skeletor and Rio Blast and I want them now!

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    And Toyguru strikes again with "Support the stuff in stores" to save the line stuff.

    He's done this with JLU, and it's getting tired.

    Since I am INCREDIBLY DISAPPOINTED BY THIS, I'll be a brat: I've heard from several sources that the other pack was Filmation colors Hordak.

    Ohhhhh well!!

    Sad. Just sad.
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    Australia (like many other countries) didn't get these 2 packs, 'Toys R Us' should get what's left (seems like A LOT in some stores!) from the US stores and ship them to 'Toys R US' Oz where Fans would hopefully buy them (and the same for other countries too)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcrduke View Post
    And Toyguru strikes again with "Support the stuff in stores" to save the line stuff.

    He's done this with JLU, and it's getting tired.

    Since I am INCREDIBLY DISAPPOINTED BY THIS, I'll be a brat: I've heard from several sources that the other pack was Filmation colors Hordak.

    Ohhhhh well!!

    Sad. Just sad.
    Of Course THAT would be the pack we never get...
    My MOTUC top 10 wants (POST SDCC 2014):

    Queen Angella - Hunga the Harpy - Peekablue - Toy Catra - Veena - Red Knight - Vultak - Dylamug - Sibyline - Kex Queen

    Small creatures that need to happen: 3 main twiggets

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcrduke View Post
    And Toyguru strikes again with "Support the stuff in stores" to save the line stuff.

    He's done this with JLU, and it's getting tired.

    Since I am INCREDIBLY DISAPPOINTED BY THIS, I'll be a brat: I've heard from several sources that the other pack was Filmation colors Hordak.

    Ohhhhh well!!

    Sad. Just sad.
    Ouch. That's just salt in the would if the last pack was indeed going to be a Filmation colors Hordak. Why you gotta hurt me like that Brian?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcrduke View Post
    Since I am INCREDIBLY DISAPPOINTED BY THIS, I'll be a brat: I've heard from several sources that the other pack was Filmation colors Hordak.

    Ohhhhh well!!

    Sad. Just sad.
    I'm glad, actually. A repaint of the extant MotUC-Hordak in blue would not be good enough, and if it didn't come out that way there's at least a chance they'll do it properly (new head, new armour, removable [Trap-Jaw] shoulders w/arm cannon, He-Man rather than KG loincloth, etc) later.

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    I looked for months and months and never saw anything except the LL vs. Skeletor pack (15-20 of them). I never once saw He-man, Stratos or Mer-man packs in the four TRU's in my area.

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    Delighted to have gotten minicomic Mer-Man out of this whole mess. One of my faves.

    Too bad they never got around to a blonde Teela repaint. Otherwise, I won't miss these. Most were either overpriced, poorly distributed, or not thought out well in terms of what was included.

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    Yeah the poor choice of figures/decos were the death of this awesome idea.
    Thanks again Mattel.
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    Where are those few .Orgers convinced that the line is going to retail and is one of the big announcements at SDCC?
    My seller/trader/buyer feedback:
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    Quote Originally Posted by RockinHard View Post
    Where are those few .Orgers convinced that the line is going to retail and is one of the big announcements at SDCC?
    HEAVEN FORBID!!! Can you imagine the nightmare of case packs with tons of He-Man and Skeletor???

    Though, I have to admit the case-packs of DCUC are very good, so maybe that wouldn't be a problem. But fighting scalp-or would be
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    I would love the line to return to retail as I'm personally in a much better financial spot now then when 200x was kicking. If it was done with case ratios like DCUC, I think it may do well. It would need some media to support it though.
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    Another thing that hurt this line is that it was marketed to a niche market within a niche market. For the price (especially if you have no tru in your state/country) you really have to be a fan of both properties. Since I have never been much of a dc fan, a motu repaint wasn't worth that kind of money to me. just throwing that out there.

    Of course, if I had a tru in my state, I probably would have made an impulse purchase or two...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcrduke View Post
    HEAVEN FORBID!!! Can you imagine the nightmare of case packs with tons of He-Man and Skeletor???

    Though, I have to admit the case-packs of DCUC are very good, so maybe that wouldn't be a problem. But fighting scalp-or would be
    We've seen this retail distribution problem happen before with JLU (Target wouldn't restock shelves empty, over ordered assortments or even order the JLU 6 packs and many fans missed out), Retro Action DC and now MOTUC vs DC Universe.

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