If it were to happen, ideas for a King Hsss variant?

[Spacedust]

For some reason, I've been thinking a lot today about character variants in the line (see here, for example), maybe because they seem to be discussed and on the increase a lot at the moment.

Generally I'm not a huge variant fan (unless they serve a real purpose), but I got to thinking: With the upcoming Hurricane Hordak release, ol' King Hiss / Hsss is the only main "leader" in the traditional franchise never to have had a variant figure released.

As I say, I'm not a real variants fan, or to be honest, much of a Snake Men fan either, but I got to wondering if (or maybe when) Matty churned out a Hssss variant, what it could be; what would it involve that was different to the "standard version".

...Maybe a giant snake who peels off his shell to reveal a horrific tangle of humans??

[Toymaker]

200X King Hsss, he looks different enough

[Met-Hild]

200X King Hsss, he looks different enough

Definitely this. It would look different enough, but could still reuse much of the unique Hiss tooling. I did a quick and dirty photoshop mockup of what a MOTUC 200X Hsss might look like so I thought I could share it here to give some idea of how it might look.



(I don't want the head to be that close to the original MOTUC version if they do any retooling at all, but the 200X head was just too far from the classics style, so this was easier to do).

[Judeh Simon]

How about "Corrected Shoulders Hisss" or even ""Much More Snakes Hisss"

[flaming_knob]

How about super correct shoulders Hssss.

[MegaGearMax]

Only two come to mind.

200X/MYP King Hssss and Bruce Timm Maskless Hssss from the mini-comics.
Give both of them the Earl Norem snakes and corrected shoulders.

[DO4M]

More non-bunny teeth snakes!
Corrected shoulders
200X look... classicized...

[Toymaker]

I want a 200X King Hsss to come with Zeehlars feet and a Caligar tail that fit in his mouth!

[davidlogan]

1. Earl Norem snake form

2. Crotch piece that doesn't hinder movement

3. Chief Carn's loin cloth

4. Corrected shoulders

[Thrawn29]

@Mechthild

That photoshop is amazingly close to what I want with a 200x King Hsss. Put an actual 200x head on it and I'd be set for the 200x human form as a matter of fact.

I wouldn't be upset if they lost the sandal feet, but they still work. Skeletor's barefoot after all.

Only two come to mind.

200X/MYP King Hssss and Bruce Timm Maskless Hssss from the mini-comics.
Give both of them the Earl Norem snakes and corrected shoulders.

I don't think there is enough of a difference in the Bruce Timm Maskless head version for another individual variant. Am I wrong? I'd buy it, but a lot of other people probably wouldn't. Maybe that could just be an extra head with a 200x variant?

And also what is it with you and the Earl Norem snakes? I love that design (LOVE IT!),but that's sort of what you got with the current King Hsss. The garbage version we got was Treadway's take on the vintage toy. The Earl Norem was just a better drawn version of the vintage toy. So in a way, we already received Treadways' version of the Earl Norem snakes. I just think it's an epic failure on every level. It's still light years better than Mattel's actual 200x King Hsss toy they released though.

So what you really want is a redo, correct?

I would want an actual MYP King Hsss snake torso for a 200x King Hsss variant. I'm probably in the minority on that one though.

This is what I'd really want as an actual variant-- a resculpt with thicker arms and a paint deco change. Preferably smooth with no scales on it as well.



I just fell in love with that design. I'd also want articulated snake arms instead of that bendy stuff we got. I don't mind breaking the sculpt in one or two places. As stated previously, I'd happily take a redo that was a copy of the Earl Norem snakes, but for 200x King Hsss it isn't my first choice.

In fact now that i think about it, an Earl Norem snake torso would probably still be the exact same snake torso (bunny teeth and all), but the 4H might just add extra snakes onto the existing toy. Would you be happy with that? I wouldn't. Mattel certainly keeps hammering home the shoestring budget these figures have. I could totally see them doing something like that.

[sephron13]

Wow, nobody commented on Mechthild's awesome job up there? That's what I would like to see, personally. Maybe give him a Marzo-esque open hand to put one of the Snakemen relics in it, or perhaps some kind of cool snake-spell effects? Then yeah, give him a more robust snake form and winner winner Zeehlar dinner.

Ah Thrawn, you just beat me, haha. Kudos.

[Uki]

200X Hssss would be great, so would the Preternia version seen in MVC, with the bald head and tiara.

And he needs his slave girl from the minicomic!

[KingRandor82]

Definitely this. It would look different enough, but could still reuse much of the unique Hiss tooling. I did a quick and dirty photoshop mockup of what a MOTUC 200X Hsss might look like so I thought I could share it here to give some idea of how it might look.

http://i1045.photobucket.com/albums/.../motuchsss.jpg

(I don't want the head to be that close to the original MOTUC version if they do any retooling at all, but the 200X head was just too far from the classics style, so this was easier to do).

This is pretty much what I would've gone for rather than what we got! Do this, and the proper snake torso, throw in the Eye of Serpos, and THAT would be a King Hiss I'd be proud of!

[lorde trooper]

200X Hssss would be great, so would the Preternia version seen in MVC, with the bald head and tiara.

And he needs his slave girl from the minicomic!

Yes totally agree, another variant for me would be a battle damaged King Hiss.

[CptSpandex]

I think King Hiss came along too late in the original line to have many variants. By the time the Snakemen were introduced, the sun hadn't exactly set on the line yet, but it was in the late afternoon sky.

I like the ideas posed here for a King Hiss variant, although I got to wondering if perhaps Spacedust's question was more in the spirit of the original line (i.e. Skeletor had Battle Armor Skeletor, Terror Claws Skeletor etc.) rather than simply alternate versions of Hiss from mini comics, previous lines, etc.

So, maybe some cool action features, like coil strike Hiss, or something along those lines. I'm trying to think creatively as in: what do snakes do? Or maybe a version of King Hiss that works under water? Maybe a version of roided up King Hiss on Ambrosia, with a catchy name. I always thought MYP did the Snakemen a disservice when they ate the Ambrosia -- everyone else had their appearances altered, but not the Snakemen, they just became more powerful. Maybe a version of King Hiss that digests his pray, i.e. reticulating jaw King Hiss...

[Mr. Shokoti]

Exactly like the one already released for MOTUC but spelled King Hiss.

[Frogster]

How about super correct shoulders Hssss.

Took the words out of my mouth.

[Eternian Poet]

I would like a King Hiss with huge, black & white cartoon eyes.

Just to give him a more subtle facial expression.

[Prahvus]

To me, a MOTUC King Hssss variant should have :

- fangs that look a bit more like fangs

- correctly assembled shoulders

- a crotch piece that actually allows him to have leg movements and to sit

- a torso attachment that actually can attach properly to the lower body piece

- a BIG, MENACING hydra part with MANY snakes

- NO fragile bendable snakes


Of course, a 200x variant would be nice, but sometimes, I even wonder if it wouldn't be better if the'd also release a "big hydra Hssss"...

[VaultsofGrayskull]

How about "Corrected Shoulders Hisss"

That's the one.

[Eterniandreams]

A 200X Hisss is very doable. I was making one but work and family is taking most of my time at the moment. I think Eamon referred to my WIP pictures when he mentioned he saw the Carnivus cloth on Hisss. It takes a lot of cutting of pieces from the solid hippiece:






The hippiece:




I REALLY need to finish him

But I would love i Mattel did this variant!!

[mightybuck]

So, maybe some cool action features, like coil strike Hiss, or something along those lines. I'm trying to think creatively as in: what do snakes do? Or maybe a version of King Hiss that works under water? Maybe a version of roided up King Hiss on Ambrosia, with a catchy name. I always thought MYP did the Snakemen a disservice when they ate the Ambrosia -- everyone else had their appearances altered, but not the Snakemen, they just became more powerful. Maybe a version of King Hiss that digests his pray, i.e. reticulating jaw King Hiss...

i was trying to come up with variants along these lines while reading the thread, but couldn't think of anything. all the other snakemen took the cool snake gimmicks! but you came up with some winners. i could definitely see a coil strike king hiss in either the 80s or 200X line if they had lasted longer.

[oICEMANo]

So we have variants for all the faction leaders except King Hiss.
Do you think one will ever be made for the Leader of the Snake Men?
If so what would you like to see?
Im not talking about a 200x variant... I mean something like Battle Armour, Thunder Punch, Hurricane etc

[kup]

I want a 200X King Hiss. Anything else I won't buy.

[Eterniandreams]

I want a 200X King Hiss. Anything else I won't buy.

I have to agree.