I agree just for the fact it would be a waste of time and resources. If there happens to be another He-Man variant to come along like the TRU 2pk or something, painting the sculpt we already have in filmation colors would be awesome. No new sculpts should be made.
Unless it's just the Filmation Skeletor head (full hood/no bonnet) or a Filmation big booty Teela. Mmmm. Big booty Teela.
I'm in complete agreement that all filmation characters should be translated to fit the existing classics style, with a reasonable amount of distance from their cartoon roots...
but saying orko set a bad precedent i would disagree with. yes he looks cartoony...but he still fits in with the idea of taking the original figure and giving it a neo-classical treatment.
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I think this is the plan already. I don't see them making a whole new style for Filmation figures, but rather continue making them look as if they had a figure in the 80's, updated.
This is true.. but it was also to be a merging of styles, creating the "best" version of that character. Orko, I feel, did not do that. I guess I harp on him the most because it was a figure I really liked the 200x look of and liked the idea behind the character since the 80s.Originally Posted by Bri-Man
The 4H and Mattel should approach all Filmation characters (and all POP characters) the same way they approached Bow - a great blend of the classic Filmation design combined with "toy" details and new design elements to add extra detail and "wow factor" to the MOTUC figure.
She-Ra V1.0 and Adora are incredibly bland when compared to the other MOTUC figures and even Catra and The Sorceress seem a little "dull" when compared to highly detailed figures like Teela (and all those figures that re-used Teela's design like Evil-Lyn and the Green Goddess) and She-Ra V2.0 (without the Bubble Power apron).
I'm not interested in overly simplified designs for MOTUC. Figures like Man-at-Arms, Teela and others have been given great additional details which really make their overall design "pop" and all figures should be the beneficiaries of a similar design aesthetic.
I tend to agree with most of the sentiments in this thread, but I can't agree with this, at least when using Bow as an example. Things were changed that I just can't see in any sense in (but this isn't a Bow thread, so I'll leave it at that).
Cmpletely agree. If they make any filmation characters I want some added details. I don't want figures in this line to not match each other in terms of quality. I'm excited for Marlena but she is definitely a bit too cartoon inspired for my personal preference. She is a great looking figure but they should have held back a bit on the cartoony aspects. I'm still shocked that her eyes were never improved.
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Not knowing josh's reasons for disagreeing regarding bow, I have to say I massively agree with this post.
Photog is here! thank you, Mattel!
Now how about some mini-comics love (like Lodar, Geldor, Dakon......)? And Mermista?
Now that's a variant I fully support! So far no figure of Teela has managed to capture the sexiness she had in Filmation - that's the Teela I want!!a Filmation big booty Teela. Mmmm. Big booty Teela.
I agree with this. I don't want to pay out $20 for a figure I already have just to get the cartoon look. I LOVE the filmation characters - but I am not a fan of variants unless it's some sort of very interesting play on the character.
I hated having to pay for repaints in 200x. I know, I didn't HAVE to buy them, but it's my OCD love for the lineSame figure - different paint? Faker is the only one who gets away with that in my book lol!
I think they have been doing a pretty good job with the figures so far.
Orko,
BOW,
She-ra,
Adora,
Catra,
Queen Marlena,
Cringer...
Shadow Weaver!!
They all look amazing and fit perfect into the classics. So I don't think there is any need to worry. But I hear what you're saying.
The easiest things to point out: the boots. Instead of using the toy design, which is a slightly more detailed than the Filmation/style guide boots, they just gave him NA He-Man's boots, which are only similar in color (not to mention NA He-Man's right wrist, and a matching left wrist, or that it looks like they've even made the blue look more like NA He-Man's than the style guide), and because they're already so similar in color, it's a figure that leaves me thoroughly let down.
Maybe, maybe the parts reuse theory could apply here (but still, it would have been NA He-Man getting Bow's pieces anyways, as Bow was designed much earlier), though even if that's the case...
The headband. Instead of using the original shape and extrapolating some textures from the elastic that the original was made of, they seem to have made a new design with no basis, as opposed to basing it on what was already there. it's comparable to switching the wrists of He-Man to different shapes/proportions.
Basically, why make something new when -- generally -- the idea is to blend previous things together?
I agree as well. I don't think we need a Filmation He-Man, MAA, Teela, etc. I wouldn't be opposed to a Filmation Skeletor head like how we're getting the mini-comic head with Demo-Man, but that's where I draw the line.
On the other hand I do prefer the more Filmation design of the POP figures, as I think those designs fit in better with the MOTUC look than the vintage toys.
I too prefer the Filmation "look" of the PoP figures compared to the toy versions but what I am concerned with is the talk of Filmation "style".
The 200x MYP "style" has been refered to as Hyper Anime/Highly Stylised/Angular. The Filmation "style" is dull, underdetailed and rather boring IMO, which is why I do not want to see that style get introduced into MOTUC.
Put MOTUC Hordak next to Filmation Hordak, which looks better? MOTUC by a long shot.
Matter of opinion.
Yes it is a matter of opinion. I think a Filmation "inspired" Hordak would be awesome but even in the pics you posted the lack of detail of Filmation "styled" Hordak makes it look subpar to the MOTUC version
I'd take FILMation Hordak over the MOTUC version without a second thought.
I really don't think most people want every single MOTUC character redone in FILMation style, however, I can understand people wanting FILMation versions of He-Man and Skeletor. They are by far the most iconic versions of those characters and fans have wanted those figures for a long, long time.
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So how does that differ from fans that want the 200x He-Man? MOTUC He-Man is the style
Agree with the OP.
Use Filmation characters.
Continue with the MOTUC style.
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I didn't say it was any different. I know there are fans who would love to see a 200X styled He-Man. I have absolutely no interest in it, but I hope the fans that want him get him eventually.
With that said, obviously Mattel wants to stay away from that style as much as possible, so it isn't really on the table at the moment. Although I believe eventually Mattel will release "classicized" versions of certain 200X styled characters like He-Man.
However, Mattel realizes how popular FILMation is and doesn't seem to have that issue with FILMation, so they are much more of a possibility at this moment. I think FILMation He-Man, Skeletor & Hordak are just about guaranteed to see a release.
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I agree with pop to a point, but I think they need some toy details to be brought in to the designs as well. Do NOT like filmation hordak, though...
Photog is here! thank you, Mattel!
Now how about some mini-comics love (like Lodar, Geldor, Dakon......)? And Mermista?
Kind of moot, isn't it?
Since we've been told that everything is going through the MOTUClaccics-izer?
We already know what Filmation characters are going to look like. Marlena, Shadow Weaver and Cringer.
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Ditto! I always swore that the day they got the rights was the day I jump ship!
I may just be a Gay Pop fan...but I am also the one who wants ALL of the Figures, who wants this line to continue and who is putting my money where my mouth is....are you doing the same?
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Did you see the middle picture, where I reuse (and call out) MotUC parts from elsewhere, and a MotUC Horde emblem?
Are we talking about:
1) Repaints or variants using the Classics bucks (i.e., repainting MOTUC He-Man to Filmation colors, making him darker skinned and giving him a realistic Filmation head, sword, scabbard and harness? Or taking Trap Jaw and casting some of his black armor and weapons in red for a Filmation Trap Jaw?)
2) 6" Filmation animation carbon copies where the lack of detail on the muscles, boots, belts and bracers are emulated?
I don't like option 2, but I'm all for option 1. Just make it a non-subscription item like She-Ra 2.0, so that anyone who doesn't want Filmation variants can skip them.
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