Toyguru Mattycollector.com MOTUC news thread August 2011

**Emiliano** · August 15, 2011, 06:46am

Originally Posted by Tallstar

Oh cool. By chance do you happen to have this illustration to share? I'm not sure I've ever seen this before, or perhaps I have but it's been so long that I cannot recall at the moment.

By saying it hasn't surfaced yet, I also meant that I haven't seen it myself either

I only have the listing page from the Style Guide.

**Tallstar** · August 15, 2011, 07:06am

Originally Posted by Emiliano

By saying it hasn't surfaced yet, I also meant that I haven't seen it myself either

I only have the listing page from the Style Guide.

Ah, I see.

Too bad Mattel probably won't share this (if they actually do have it), even though every other image is available. Maybe Beverly Kirby would have this in her possession?

**Emiliano** · August 15, 2011, 07:25am

Originally Posted by Tallstar

Ah, I see.

Too bad Mattel probably won't share this (if they actually do have it), even though every other image is available.

99% Mattel doesn't have it. All they have are the images available online or that fans provides. But as I said, I'm pretty sure is the image from the poster, so we have seen it somehow.

**Tallstar** · August 15, 2011, 07:41am

Originally Posted by Emiliano

99% Mattel doesn't have it. All they have are the images available online or that fans provides. But as I said, I'm pretty sure is the image from the poster, so we have seen it somehow.

Oh, I know. Just a bit of wishful thinking that they may have been in different poses.

I really wish something new would surface on them. Like packaging proofs or something neat like that.

**Berserker79** · August 15, 2011, 10:21am

Hmmmm...

What is the difference between the Alcala head and a 200x or Filmation head?

Why did they produce that and don't want to produce the others?

**Emiliano** · August 15, 2011, 10:33am

Originally Posted by Berserker79

Hmmmm...

What is the difference between the Alcala head and a 200x or Filmation head?

Why did they produce that and don't want to produce the others?

One would say it would be "confusing for the consumers" as well

I'm still convinced there was no upper management order against 2002 heads (as they keep popping up: Fisto). It was merely a budget issue, but the explanation given was not completely accurate and generated more debate than needed.

**WDWFreak53** · August 15, 2011, 11:11am

I don't understand the "Filmation characters" will be put through the MOTUC machine and be done in the Classics style.

Cringer is 100% Filmation...and doesn't even have the articulation of a Classics figure.

**vertigoink** · August 15, 2011, 11:21am

Cringer also isn't 100% a figure- he's essentially a pvc accessory sadly. Remember, Orko didn't have the articulation either and I'd wager it's probably due to scale issues.

Originally Posted by WDWFreak53

I don't understand the "Filmation characters" will be put through the MOTUC machine and be done in the Classics style.

Cringer is 100% Filmation...and doesn't even have the articulation of a Classics figure.

**Berserker79** · August 15, 2011, 11:27am

Originally Posted by Emiliano

One would say it would be "confusing for the consumers" as well

I'm still convinced there was no upper management order against 2002 heads (as they keep popping up: Fisto). It was merely a budget issue, but the explanation given was not completely accurate and generated more debate than needed.

I'm wondering about Mattel thinking adult collectors are confused by interchageable heads...

I can accept their concept on characters like Fisto and Kobra Khan, but He-Man & Skeletor are the iconic characters of this franchise, there should be other rules for those two...

**WDWFreak53** · August 15, 2011, 11:29am

Originally Posted by vertigoink

Cringer also isn't 100% a figure- he's essentially a pvc accessory sadly. Remember, Orko didn't have the articulation either and I'd wager it's probably due to scale issues.

Well, that's what I mean. Orko had the articulation (maybe not the same amount of articulation points) but doesn't have legs to articulate.

His shoulders, elbows, and wrists were articulated...as well as his head (which is removable), and his lower body had "articulation" when it connects to the stand.

Cringer (in the Classics Style) should have the same amount of articulation points as Battle Cat (due to him being the same person just not "powered up")

It's the equivalent of Prince Adam (as an accessory) being a staction...(which have been retired

)

EDIT: I just wanted to say that I thought the sculpt for Cringer was perfect (and after having him...I don't mind the size of him). I really want a more articulated Cringer (and I think I speak for the majority on that). It was completely a Filmation style sculpt though...he wasn't Classicized at all.

**Mern-Ra** · August 15, 2011, 07:33pm

Originally Posted by Reboot

Rumoured? TG said himself in Pixel Dan's SDCC video (when going into the cabinet for Swiftwind) that they'd belatedly discovered they could have done Filmation versions of ANY character owned by Mattel all along!

Whaaaaaaat?! How did I miss hearing that?!

Oh well, I just got my "Ask Matty" question answered about giving quarterly variants Filmation heads, and the answer was

"You already have Classics versions of the main characters. To do animated ones we would need a new animated line and right now we are putting all of our limited resources into Classics. All figures from Filmation will be done in Classics style.

It doesn't mean we won't get to other expressions on main character variants down the road (we do try to sneak things in like we did with the new Skeletor head with Demo-Man if it works). So yes obviously we know fans want this, it just depends on finding a way to deliver what we can."

I'm quite happy with that response!

**HordeFan** · August 15, 2011, 07:45pm

holy wow!! That Thunder Punch He-Man art is AMAZING! They should hire him on the spot!!!

**Reboot** · August 15, 2011, 07:48pm

Originally Posted by Mern-Ra

Oh well, I just got my "Ask Matty" question answered about giving quarterly variants Filmation heads, and the answer was

"You already have Classics versions of the main characters. To do animated ones we would need a new animated line and right now we are putting all of our limited resources into Classics. All figures from Filmation will be done in Classics style.

It doesn't mean we won't get to other expressions on main character variants down the road (we do try to sneak things in like we did with the new Skeletor head with Demo-Man if it works). So yes obviously we know fans want this, it just depends on finding a way to deliver what we can."

I'm quite happy with that response!

Follow-up question, if you please (I'm not registered on the Matty forum) - how is this (see also this) any less different from the original MotUC Teela than this is from the original MotUC He-Man?

[Seriously, TP He-Man is the #1 "the rules are whatever we want to do with our budget at the time" example. I used it even before the reveal as an example of how the 200X HM stuff was bunk, since the reasoning for why they couldn't do a MYP He-Man applied as much or more to TP He-Man]

**DO4M** · August 15, 2011, 08:23pm

Originally Posted by Reboot

Follow-up question, if you please (I'm not registered on the Matty forum) - how is this (see also this) any less different from the original MotUC Teela than this is from the original MotUC He-Man?

[Seriously, TP He-Man is the #1 "the rules are whatever we want to do with our budget at the time" example. I used it even before the reveal as an example of how the 200X HM stuff was bunk, since the reasoning for why they couldn't do a MYP He-Man applied as much or more to TP He-Man]

Using Logic to fight Matty... HAH! You forgot the most sacred Rule... Vintage Figures can override the rules...

I want both TP and 200X He-Man...

**Tallstar** · August 15, 2011, 08:39pm

Curious to see the route they take with the inevitable 2002 King Hssss variant. Will they use Carnivus' loin cloth?

**Memnoch** · August 15, 2011, 08:50pm

Id say they absolutely will. I also hope 200X Orko could be a future variant because those looks differed VASTLY.

**RockinHard** · August 16, 2011, 09:06pm

He just answered my question about NEVER seeing Shadow Weaver and Preternia He-Man outside the sub.

**blackiecats** · August 16, 2011, 09:32pm

So I guess we'll never see Filmation Mer-Man

Surely they could do head packs of the Filmation characters that had different style heads to the vintage toys such as Merman, Clawful, Evil Lyn etc...

If not I will never own a classics Clawful!

**MegaGearMax** · August 17, 2011, 05:04am

Originally Posted by blackiecats

So I guess we'll never see Filmation Mer-Man

Surely they could do head packs of the Filmation characters that had different style heads to the vintage toys such as Merman, Clawful, Evil Lyn etc...

The 200X fans thought that would happen too, but a head pak is too morbid for Mattel to put out.

**Reboot** · August 17, 2011, 06:23am

Originally Posted by blackiecats

So I guess we'll never see Filmation Mer-Man

Surely they could do head packs of the Filmation characters that had different style heads to the vintage toys such as Merman, Clawful, Evil Lyn etc...

If not I will never own a classics Clawful!

Clawful and Evil-Lyn need more than just new heads!

**Heli88** · August 17, 2011, 09:50am

I'm curious about who asked for a FILMation line; TG seems determined that any question asking about FILMation-inspired figures means that we want them to look exactly like the cartoon, low detail and all. Is this the new "anime hyperdetail," where every question gets essentially the same automatic answer?

**Staff Of Ka** · August 17, 2011, 11:02am

Originally Posted by Heli88

I'm curious about who asked for a FILMation line; TG seems determined that any question asking about FILMation-inspired figures means that we want them to look exactly like the cartoon, low detail and all. Is this the new "anime hyperdetail," where every question gets essentially the same automatic answer?

I hope so!

**Met-Hild** · August 17, 2011, 03:10pm

Originally Posted by Reboot

Clawful and Evil-Lyn need more than just new heads!

I bet if you asked about it, they'd say Clawful and Evil-Lyn actually don't need new heads at all because the existing ones are in the Classics style and not the Filmation style...

**MegaGearMax** · August 18, 2011, 01:35pm

A bunch of new questions are up.
It isn't TG's fault, but "grrrr" to that head pak answer.

**RocketPunch** · August 18, 2011, 01:59pm

I still want a single carded Adam. Partly for the bio, but also to correct the vest by giving it the missing sword holder. Until that gets fixed, I won't consider him done.

Also, I would buy Filmation inspired variants of the main characters using the current bodies. They don't need a completely new sculpt, just a new head would be enough. Give He-Man a closed mouth and Skeletor a more baggy hood.

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