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    Official Support for a Filmation He-Man Variant Thread

    I REALLY hope the mod's don't merge this because I feel this He-Man variant deserves his own support thread.

    This is from today's Ask Matty:
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    Would Filmation colored MOTUC variants with realistic Filmation heads be out of the question? I'm not talking an animated look like JLU or Young Justice, but a repaint with new parts.

    For example, making a He-Man repaint that has Buzz-Off dark skin and in the Filmation colors, but has a Filmation head, Filmation blue harness, blue scabbard on his back, a longer Filmation style sword and a repaint of the regular power sword to those Filmation colors.

    A:
    We aren't going to do an animated head on a Classics style body. No sofa beds. To do an animated line we would need to do a full on new line and right now we are putting all of our resources into Classics.

    We can of course do straight repaints, the concern is whether fans would except this as a quarterly variant. We are under the impression that including repaints in the sub is frowned upon. (this was the beauty of the TRU 2 packs, it was an awesome vehicle to do repaints!)

    What say you?


    I just don't get this! I LOVE Classics and I'm not saying they should slap a JLU version of He-Man's head on a Classics body, but they could totally do a hybrid with the Filmation hair and plain look on his face with all the detail and paint apps of Classics.

    I'd even be happy if they put a Filmation style head on Thunder Punch He-Man. In fact, I think giving quarterly variants Filmation heads would be a GREAT way to spice them up! I'd buy at least 5 TP He-Man's if they did this whereas now I'll only get the one via my sub.

    So, as ToyGuru said, what say you? Would just the head be OK with you like it would with me? Or would you want a FULLY Filmation He-Man with the blue armor that's missing the red squares on the shoulders and a sheath? That would of course be IDEAL, but at the moment I'll settle for the head.

    OH, and OF COURSE we need a hand that allows him to hold his Sword aloft! This is JUST as important as anything else, and the fact that the FIRST Thundercats figure can do this when He-Man can't just ain't right!
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    Do you guys just want the colors as a variant or a straight up figure like this, with all the good details sanded out?


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    I'd love a Filmation inspired He-Man: But he'd need to be
    more than a slightly more tanned MOTUC He-Man
    Same MOTUC buck but with TK's left arm.
    NEW hairpiece more like the Filmation hairstyle
    Same Harness (in blue) but with a new back piece for the Sword sheath.
    Also he should come with the white Grappling hook that he pulls out of his crotch in a few episodes...
    NEW Sword Like Adora's but without the Jewel! This last one is VERY important!
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    I am all for some Filmation styled characters like He-Man, Skeletor, Teela, and Man-At-Arms. I can pass on most of the others as they just looked silly.
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    As far as Filmation characters are concerned, I'm ONLY interested in original, unique and non-variants characters. In other words : Batros, Sea Hawk, Imp, Kittrina, Scorpia, Shokoti, Octavia, Lord Masque, Vultak, Fang Man, Icer, Madam Razz with Broom... would all be OK.

    Filmation Teela, Beast Man, Mer-Man etc. are not interesting to me. So, personally, I wouldn't be inrerested in a Filmation He-Man.
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    I'm not very interested in a separate Filmation style He-Man. Aside from the head and skin tone, it just strikes me as a less detailed version of what we've got. I think a great way to add some value to a future He-Man variant would be to include an extra Filmation style head to use on the He-Man of your choice.

    The skin tone may be a little off, but I think it could work well in the same way that the style-specific Skeletor head packed with Demo-Man does.

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    Oo-Larr the Jungle He-Man would be a nice Alternative. He's probably getting the Longish hair that Mini comics He-Man had (He-Man meets Ram Man) a "Filmation" extra head would be nice here... instead of the already overused Normal He-Man head... If they make him in the same skin tone as He-Man... you could mix and match to create YOUR he-man
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    Put me in the "do not want" category as He-Man's Filmation model was nothing more than an over-simplification of the original figure's design which the 4 Horsermen updated really well in my opinion. There is really not enough variation in the Filmation design from the MOTUC figure to warrant a variant figure. I'd prefer Mattel make Classics figures of Filamtion characters that never had figures before instead of wasting resources on variants of figures that (a) have already been released and (b) are nothing more than simplified versions of their toy designs for the sake of saving costs on animation.

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    Pass for me.

    I agree with my pal Prahvus here:
    Quote Originally Posted by Prahvus View Post
    As far as Filmation characters are concerned, I'm ONLY interested in original, unique and non-variants characters. In other words : Batros, Sea Hawk, Imp, Kittrina, Scorpia, Shokoti, Octavia, Lord Masque, Vultak, Fang Man, Icer, Madam Razz with Broom... would all be OK.

    Filmation Teela, Beast Man, Mer-Man etc. are not interesting to me. So, personally, I wouldn't be inrerested in a Filmation He-Man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SCB View Post
    Do you guys just want the colors as a variant or a straight up figure like this, with all the good details sanded out?
    I'd want the right colors but with all the Classics details left intact (and of course a new head/hand). I only think they should do a figure like that if they did a Filmation only line, similar to the JLU line.

    Quote Originally Posted by AximusPrime View Post
    Put me in the "do not want" category as He-Man's Filmation model was nothing more than an over-simplification of the original figure's design which the 4 Horsermen updated really well in my opinion. There is really not enough variation in the Filmation design from the MOTUC figure to warrant a variant figure. I'd prefer Mattel make Classics figures of Filamtion characters that never had figures before instead of wasting resources on variants of figures that (a) have already been released and (b) are nothing more than simplified versions of their toy designs for the sake of saving costs on animation.
    You make a fair argument, however even if someone isn't a Filmation fan I hope they'd at least recognize that this argument is just as fair: the Filmation look is THE most iconic look of the character, or at least the most recognized and widely known. What I mean is that if anyone knows of He-Man, they know of the Filmation look with him holding his sword aloft. They may know of other versions as well, but if someone only knows ONE version of him, it's that one, and I don't see how they can't make the version that is the most well known.
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    The filmation pose is iconic, but I'd say the most iconic He-Man is the vintage toy. By far.
    In any case I wouldn't like the idea of repaints or variants of that style wasting the variant slots. And the idea of filmation heads should fall under the 'no 200x heads' mentality imo, and it sounds like they will.

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    I, too, feel the same as Prahvus:

    "As far as Filmation characters are concerned, I'm ONLY interested in original, unique and non-variants characters. In other words : Batros, Sea Hawk, Imp, Kittrina, Scorpia, Shokoti, Octavia, Lord Masque, Vultak, Fang Man, Icer, Madam Razz with Broom... would all be OK.

    Filmation Teela, Beast Man, Mer-Man etc. are not interesting to me. So, personally, I wouldn't be interested in a Filmation He-Man."

    There is already SOOO much for MOTUC to tackle, especially now with Filmation rights, and so little slots, that I would really hate to see them waste the time and effort on something like a Filmation He-Man, Skeletor, or whoever else... the differences are not that great to me, and I don't want variants of figures I already have that will feature LESS detail and overtly simplified Filmation paint jobs for $20 a pop. Mix in the Filmation characters that have never had figures before into the MOTUC line, but I have to say I'm not interested in cartoonified redos of any previously released figure.

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    The Filmation He-Man in my head would probably be too expensive to be worth it: A newly sculpted head and sword, simplified details like the custom above and swivels at the wrists. If they offered that, I'd be all over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mern-Ra View Post
    You make a fair argument, however even if someone isn't a Filmation fan I hope they'd at least recognize that this argument is just as fair: the Filmation look is THE most iconic look of the character, or at least the most recognized and widely known. What I mean is that if anyone knows of He-Man, they know of the Filmation look with him holding his sword aloft. They may know of other versions as well, but if someone only knows ONE version of him, it's that one, and I don't see how they can't make the version that is the most well known.
    The problem is, they basically already did make that version. Or at the very least, they made it close enough that the people you speak of should be able to see Filmation He-Man represented in the classics figure we already have. Elements include:

    - Long hair with short bangs in the front, check.
    - Tanned complexion, check. Stand MOTUC He-Man next to other figures such as He-Ro, Prince Adam, Zodac, and others and you will see.
    - Orange bracelet and arm guard, check. Filmation He-Man had two bracelets to simplify the animation model so that the same animation cells could be flipped and reused when He-Man needed to be animated going in the opposite direction.
    - Reddish tint to his boots and loincloth, check.

    While the custom from Hunter Knight shown above proves that you can go further to get a closer to Filmation look, ultimately it's not neccessary as the elements are already there in the existing figure. Seeing as the 200X fans have yet to get their He-Man due to the reason that he's basically the same character, just a different artistic interpretation, I don't think a Filmation He-Man is neccessary as it is just another artistic interpretation of the same character we already have.

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    Didn't I already start a thread to not get these? Ofcourse I did

    I am sorry but this is such a bad idea. Pointless variants are pointless

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    YIKES! Haters, BE GONE! This is a SUPPORT thread! Please see the post above mine for a thread to say you don't want this type of thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheFallen View Post
    Didn't I already start a thread to not get these? Ofcourse I did

    I am sorry but this is such a bad idea. Pointless variants are pointless
    I'm just trying to counter your evil thread! I think YOUR thread is a bad idea, so THERE!

    I think I've made it very clear I don't find this variant to be pointless, in fact I find it to be absolutely vital!
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    I agree and support this idea. I consider the Filmation versions of He-Man and Skeletor more iconic than the vintage toy versions (and definitely more than 200x). Honestly if Mattel has no problem creating a comic-style Skeletor head for Demo Man, I don't see why this would be any different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizard Man Fan View Post
    I agree and support this idea. I consider the Filmation versions of He-Man and Skeletor more iconic than the vintage toy versions (and definitely more than 200x). Honestly if Mattel has no problem creating a comic-style Skeletor head for Demo Man, I don't see why this would be any different.
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    Is This Thread Died ?

    I thought the Support for Filmation variants are MORE !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TUC138 View Post
    Is This Thread Died ?

    I thought the Support for Filmation variants are MORE !!!
    Sounds good to me! Let's bring it back to life!!!
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    There are VERY few filmation repaints i would actually buy. Most of the time, the toy versions were vastly superiour ANYWAY...

    However, I DO have a soft spot in my heart for Filmation He-man and Skeletor. I would buy them in a heartbeat.

    Also want a Filmation Mer-man... and the Right armor for MAA... Seriously... SOME varient of him HAS to get the full armor

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    I dont know. I want a Filmation Skeletor Head, but I feel like the TRU He-Man was enough "filmation He-Man" for me.

    Filmation Hordak is far more important and neccessary, with a Skeletor Filmation head being second.

    A "Filmation" He-Man just feels quite unneccesary comared to many other things. I may feel different if I didnt have the TRU He-Man.

    Oh, and consider the repaint point that Matty makes. You wouldnt be getting that new sculpt stuff. And even with a new head it just isnt enough to warrent a new fig.

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    Here's my attempt at a FILMATION HE-MAN!! He's my definite HE-MAN for my collection!! I would still definitely buy a official Mattel Filmation He-Man!! DSC_0566.jpg
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    I honestly have no desire for a FILMation He-Man variant ... for me it would be a waste of money.

    The only FILMation variants I would consider for my own collection would be someone like Clawful, whose design was different enough from his vintage look that he could be an entirely different character. He-Man, Skeletor, Man-at-Arms, Teela ... FILMation variants of these guys do nothing for me.

    A couple "classics-ized" FILMation heads thrown in here and there could be cool though (Mer-Man comes to mind) ...

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    I would absolutely love a filmation he-man. I always wished as a kid my he-man figure looked like the cartoon more. I'm totally on board with this!

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