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    Ideas to make subscription more attractive!

    This is a thread that I hope Scott reads. The objective here is to give ideas for mattel to make the subscrpition more attractive than the exclusive, the map and avoid the WSOD, which IMO is nice but not enough at this point of the road!

    Here is mines:

    Discount for non-sub items like vehicles,stands, dioramas, extra-large itens and etc..

    Access to an exclusive part of mattycollectors site with interviews, productions sneak peaks, extra photos, videos, vintage art, old ads, and other nice MOTU stuff.

    A bimonthly or quarter give-away of a special item (a four horseman autographed figure, or a Earl Norem autographed windraider, or a poster and etc..) drawn to one of the subscribers.

    Some fan demand limited editions of Deluxe versions of figures like battle damaged Faker (alla Terminator), with premium (and profitables) prices, available ONLY to subscribers with low limit per sub!

    Expansion packs like, extra heads and weapons for the army builders , extras snakes for king Hiss, green falcon for the Goddess.



    And the list can go, I don't know what is possible or not, but I'm sure if everybody help some good ideas will appear and Tg can pick up some to help our beloved MOTUC line!!
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    Wasn't shipping prior to sale day supposed to be a Sub perk?

    Perks are GREAT when they're delivered...
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    Yes, it is, Big C.
    I probably forgot that because figures take a month to arrive to me, but I guess for the U.S. residents it is a nice perk!
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    they tried giving us a discount for Battle Cat but it didn't work out too well. it was too difficult to enter in the discount code and beat the WSOD at the same time.



    all they have to do is make Castle Grayskull a sub exclusive. if that doesn't increase sub sales, i don't know what will.

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    I would buy 2-3 subs if i could get 1 all in sub and 2 vintage only subs...Im sorry just hate the pop/na stuff...i have to trade more and more stuff off as the line cont....So if they could build diff. sub options wouldn't that work and sell more subs...I think so!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rdominiack View Post
    I would buy 2-3 subs if i could get 1 all in sub and 2 vintage only subs...Im sorry just hate the pop/na stuff...i have to trade more and more stuff off as the line cont....So if they could build diff. sub options wouldn't that work and sell more subs...I think so!
    All vintage sub would be great.

    Also if they could figure out a way were shipping wasnt 50% of the price of the item we are purchasing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crawful View Post
    they tried giving us a discount for Battle Cat but it didn't work out too well. it was too difficult to enter in the discount code and beat the WSOD at the same time.



    all they have to do is make Castle Grayskull a sub exclusive. if that doesn't increase sub sales, i don't know what will.
    No.

    I don't care HOW badly I want Grayskull, I will NOT buy a (couple?) hundred dollars on crap I don't want just to get the "opportunity" to spend another $200-$300 on the Castle.

    Sorry. This would fail.

    Quote Originally Posted by bianchi5 View Post
    Yes, it is, Big C.
    I probably forgot that because figures take a month to arrive to me, but I guess for the U.S. residents it is a nice perk!
    Bro, I live in the US and my sub has NEVER shipped any sooner that the day AFTER the sale day, and usually it's several days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Country View Post
    No.

    I don't care HOW badly I want Grayskull, I will NOT buy a (couple?) hundred dollars on crap I don't want just to get the "opportunity" to spend another $200-$300 on the Castle.

    Sorry. This would fail.



    Bro, I live in the US and my sub has NEVER shipped any sooner that the day AFTER the sale day, and usually it's several days.
    well you must be unlucky or its karma

    b/c I get a shipping notice 2 days before the sale date every time for like the past 3 or 4 months
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crawful View Post
    they tried giving us a discount for Battle Cat but it didn't work out too well. it was too difficult to enter in the discount code and beat the WSOD at the same time.



    all they have to do is make Castle Grayskull a sub exclusive. if that doesn't increase sub sales, i don't know what will.
    I can not agree to this, even though I have a sub, and will get a Castle Grayskull even if it's $300 or $500. But to think that some of these fans get 3-4 subs, that is 4 Grayskulls adding possibly $1200 in one month to some a house payment, to the already 4 subs totaling $2040 brings it to $3240 for the year, does not sound so bad when you break it down into monthly payments of $270, but you can be paying on a brand new car for those monthly payments.

    I would not want to lock anybody into that, sub sales would surly drop. It's true, some things should not be included in the sub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Country View Post
    Wasn't shipping prior to sale day supposed to be a Sub perk?

    Perks are GREAT when they're delivered...
    Didn't they say they were working on getting sale-day (non-sub items) to ship with subscriptions? How are they going to ship prior to sale day if that's the case?

    I could be wrong...but I thought they said that they were working on that.

    (BTW, shipping prior to sales day isn't a "perk" they're giving to us...as an incentive....they're doing it because it makes life easier for them. Shipping prior to sales day guarantees that sub items will be processed prior to sale-day purchases so they don't have that screw up again where the sub-figures were sold on sale day.)

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    Have multiple subs. Split the subs up into eras/factions just like they did for the 30th Anniversary. Vintage/NA/Filmation/POP/200X, etc... then we get what we want without all the stuff we don't want. If a certain era doesn't sell, then it gets canceled. That way people aren't stuck with figs they don't want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJRules View Post
    Have multiple subs. Split the subs up into eras/factions just like they did for the 30th Anniversary. Vintage/NA/Filmation/POP/200X, etc... then we get what we want without all the stuff we don't want.
    Yep, this is the way to go. Let people know what they buy.
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    since the buyer is committing to buy everything, the least they could do would be either offer the sub exclusive or make a discount on each monthly figure.

    The only two reasons to buy the subscription so far are, getting the sub exclusive much cheaper than in the second market and not having to deal with sale day issues. Not good enough imo.

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    AWWW COMEON!!!! A sticker sheet coming with Snout Spout is not enough incentive for you people?

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    1. an ongoing series of mini-comics, each with a cliffhanger and one issue with every figure...based on the bios...

    2. collect and connect Modulok and Multibot... with extra new parts and filmation parts... spread out over three years

    3. Must-have figures as sub exclusive

    4. sub figures shipping ONE WEEK early... the two days prior to sale doesn't really work

    5. extra heads or weapons only for subscribers

    6. include the SDCC exclusive in the sub

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    Agreed! Discount everything 5 to 10 percent. That would encourage people to get the sub!

    Quote Originally Posted by Arkangel View Post
    since the buyer is committing to buy everything, the least they could do would be either offer the sub exclusive or make a discount on each monthly figure.

    The only two reasons to buy the subscription so far are, getting the sub exclusive much cheaper than in the second market and not having to deal with sale day issues. Not good enough imo.
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    I still think simple two different type of subscription would have done the deal, as increased cost of the subscription seemed to be an issue according to the forums at least.

    So simply offer two types:
    a) Just 12 figures (plus bonus figure).
    b) Everything (plus bonus figure).

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    Discounting the sub is the ultimate and most logical reason to subscribe, paying less over the course of a year than just buying day would be the biggest incentive for a sub purchase. Combining shipping in the US for all sub and extra non sub items (purchased on day of sale items) would be nice too.

    Plus people keep bringing up "tiered" subscriptions, this won't work as the large scale beasts/multipacks would be eliminated as this sub wouldn't see enough purchased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbomb23 View Post

    Plus people keep bringing up "tiered" subscriptions, this won't work as the large scale beasts/multipacks would be eliminated as this sub wouldn't see enough purchased.
    So your claim is the following: not enough people want large scale beasts/ multipacks to make them profitable. First, I doubt that this is true, given that many things outside the subscriptions sell decently well. Second, if it is true, shouldn't it follow that things no-one wants to buy should not be produced? I mean, if the majority of fans do not want beasts or multipacks or whatever, and they do not want them to such a degree that those things aren't profitable, why are they being made?

    Imagine for a second that Mattel decides to make 50% of the subscription characters meteorbs. And imagine that *no one* wants them. Then imagine there are tiered subscriptions: all-in and everything-but-meteorbs, only the latter of which will anyone buy. Is that a reason to produce only the all-in subscription, so that everyone will be forced to buy 6 figures they don't want out of 12 figures? One would hope not!

    Mattel should make things people want. They should not make things that people don't want. And if they do make things that *most* people don't want, then it should be the few people who do want them that shoulder the burden for them, not the rest of us.

    I always feel like a hostage-- from Mattel and from the boards-- "you must buy everything, even what neither you nor almost anyone else wants (10 figures a month, POP D-listers, Songster), or else you can't get what everyone wants and would pay for if we didn't produce the other crap". That's no knock against POP D-lister fans, or whoever, but I just fail to see the argument that MOTUC collectors in general should be subsidizing collectors with peculiar, non-popular, and largely non-profitable tastes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invicta View Post
    I still think simple two different type of subscription would have done the deal, as increased cost of the subscription seemed to be an issue according to the forums at least.

    So simply offer two types:
    a) Just 12 figures (plus bonus figure).
    b) Everything (plus bonus figure).

    the third type would be: option A, with the ability to upgrade the months you wanted to (click for large figure) or something like that.


    but yeah. even with just your two options, i would have bought a sub this year.

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    Its VERY easy ! Sell more what people want.

    Here the list for the year 2013.


    Jan.: Tung Lashor
    Q1.: Classic Clours single carded Prince Adam


    Feb.: Multibot
    Large Scale.: Horde Tropper 2pack


    March.: Extendar
    Addionaly Snake Mountain or Castle Grayskull in 3 parts each part around 40-50$ Part1

    Apri: Spikor
    Q2: Filmation blue Hordak

    May: Squeeze
    Large Scale: Stridor

    June: Ninjor
    Addionaly Snake Mountain or Castle Grayskull in 3 parts each part around 40-50$ Part1

    July: Eldor
    SDCC Exlclusive: King Grayskulls wife and his Battle Lion

    August: Dragstor
    Q3: Alcala Beastman

    Sept.: Stondar
    Large Scale: Roton

    Oct.: Evil Seed
    Q4: Alcala He-man

    Nov.: Modulok
    Addionaly Snake Mountain or Castle Grayskull in 3 parts each part around 40-50$ Part1

    Dec.: Madame Razz her Broom and this little flying thing
    Large Scale: the three Filmation trolans (Uncle Mortok etc.)

    -Each Figure comes with Minicomic
    - NO PROBLEM with 2,5$ price increase per figure!

    THIS would be a shedule where MATTEL WOULD SELL thousands And THOUSANDS subscriptions

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    That's what you want

    I want those but also Angella, Castaspella, Glimmer, Frosta, Double Trouble, Mermista, Sweet Bee, Peekablue, Entrapta, Netossa, Spinnerella, Perfuma, Flogg, Slish Head, Quakke, Lizarr, Hydron, Darius, Mara, Master Sebrian, Tuskador, Sagittar, Spinwit, Critta, Icer, Sea Hawk, Scorpia, Octavia, Shokoti, Kothos, Lord Masque, Kittrina, Dark Dream, Magestra (heck they have her head via BG Evil-Lyn; just paint it differently), etc.

    I wouldn't buy a sub next year if the line were laid out the way you say.

    Quote Originally Posted by Merman79 View Post
    Its VERY easy ! Sell more what people want.

    Here the list for the year 2013.


    Jan.: Tung Lashor
    Q1.: Classic Clours single carded Prince Adam


    Feb.: Multibot
    Large Scale.: Horde Tropper 2pack


    March.: Extendar
    Addionaly Snake Mountain or Castle Grayskull in 3 parts each part around 40-50$ Part1

    Apri: Spikor
    Q2: Filmation blue Hordak

    May: Squeeze
    Large Scale: Stridor

    June: Ninjor
    Addionaly Snake Mountain or Castle Grayskull in 3 parts each part around 40-50$ Part1

    July: Eldor
    SDCC Exlclusive: King Grayskulls wife and his Battle Lion

    August: Dragstor
    Q3: Alcala Beastman

    Sept.: Stondar
    Large Scale: Roton

    Oct.: Evil Seed
    Q4: Alcala He-man

    Nov.: Modulok
    Addionaly Snake Mountain or Castle Grayskull in 3 parts each part around 40-50$ Part1

    Dec.: Madame Razz her Broom and this little flying thing
    Large Scale: the three Filmation trolans (Uncle Mortok etc.)

    -Each Figure comes with Minicomic
    - NO PROBLEM with 2,5$ price increase per figure!

    THIS would be a shedule where MATTEL WOULD SELL thousands And THOUSANDS subscriptions

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    1. More discounts/incentives would definately be a step in the right direction.
    2. Cutting back on SKUs would help too. I used to have 2 subs in 2010 because there would be months I wanted to get multiples of the same figure, but even though I like Sorceress, Fisto, KK, if I want multiples of these 3, I need to buy twice the stuff I don't want so I don't get charged double shipping. Star Sisters x1 is doable, but don't need more than one set. That goes for whatever beasts, quarterly variant, etc. Battlecat, Panthor, Swiftwind all make sense, but at some point, Mattel's just going to be pushing out obscure stuff just for the sake of it.
    3. Combine SKUs? Can Mattel make some of their SKUs interchangeable? 2 quarterly variants=1 beast, 2 beasts=1 CG part?
    4. Variable rate shipping. States like CA have taxes, so add in the $8-9 shipping, No way I'm paying $32 to order 1 figure a month, especially living only a few hours away. Any figure I resell, I'm losing money. Ebay has been the better alternative lately. I'm not about to throw away money just to keep this line afloat.


    Here's an idea: How about biannual 6 month subs? 2009 was essentially a partial sub wasn't it? Reveals are already broken up to two main events anyway, SDCC and Toyfair. This would potentially attract those fans who would consider but want to know what they're paying for. SDCC reveals run about Oct-Mar, so the sub could start there. The next sub could be after Toyfair or whenever Mattel makes another big reveal and run from Apr-Aug. There could be an exclusive to each one, maybe not a big-hitter like SW, but interesting quarterly variant or whatever, maybe even a beast (hey, why not?), and would provide another excuse to create another figure slot. I'd think the lower price point of a 6 month sub might be easier to swallow than an entire year. Sure there would be more to manage, but if it could create more sales?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merman79 View Post
    Its VERY easy ! Sell more what people want.

    Here the list for the year 2013.


    Jan.: Tung Lashor
    Q1.: Classic Clours single carded Prince Adam


    Feb.: Multibot
    Large Scale.: Horde Tropper 2pack


    March.: Extendar
    Addionaly Snake Mountain or Castle Grayskull in 3 parts each part around 40-50$ Part1

    Apri: Spikor
    Q2: Filmation blue Hordak

    May: Squeeze
    Large Scale: Stridor

    June: Ninjor
    Addionaly Snake Mountain or Castle Grayskull in 3 parts each part around 40-50$ Part1

    July: Eldor
    SDCC Exlclusive: King Grayskulls wife and his Battle Lion

    August: Dragstor
    Q3: Alcala Beastman

    Sept.: Stondar
    Large Scale: Roton

    Oct.: Evil Seed
    Q4: Alcala He-man

    Nov.: Modulok
    Addionaly Snake Mountain or Castle Grayskull in 3 parts each part around 40-50$ Part1

    Dec.: Madame Razz her Broom and this little flying thing
    Large Scale: the three Filmation trolans (Uncle Mortok etc.)

    -Each Figure comes with Minicomic
    - NO PROBLEM with 2,5$ price increase per figure!

    THIS would be a shedule where MATTEL WOULD SELL thousands And THOUSANDS subscriptions

    Subscription exclusive > Movie He-man or Skeltor . And one year later the other one
    Good list. I would buy a sub on that, but not liking spending $20+ on a whole figure when all I need is an Alcala head. Sorry no Madam Razz either. Trollans and Gwildor is about the extent of my humor and whimsy in MOTUC Otherwise that list speaks to my vintage sensibilities. Woot!

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    @bcrduke , i argue that.
    The what you wrote WILL NEVER happen, and the more Mattel would go that way the more would the fans disapointed.

    Me and the MOST other fans would prefer YET - those figures.

    Whitch sub would most fans prefer and buy?

    I say if the lineup goes similar as mine. Nothing else.
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