MOTUC Forever!

[mykan]

If the *****ers and the purists had their way, MOTUC would have ended by now - or be close to the end. As long as the numbers are there, Matty will find a way to keep it going.

I am all for constructive criticism - it's how we improve. But *****ing for the sake of *****ing will NOT win any battles. The reality of the matter is: PRINCESS OF POWER and NEW ADVENTURES are a part of the MOTU mythos, and are a part of the MOTUC line. So for the individuals who feel that POP and NA are "ruining" the MOTUC line, then perhaps a sub is not for you. Perhaps the opportunity of purchasing/cherrypicking the figures you want is the way to go.

Unlike other sub lines being released by Mattel, there is a great opportunity to be exposed to a plethora of figures that have not seen a release since the late 1980s. For some of us, it's a refresher. For others, it's a brand new opportunity to collect a figure. If what we've seen with Optikk, Catra and Icarius is any indicator - there will be many collectors who will eat their words when they see new POP and NA figures roll out.

Whatever happens, as fans of MOTU, we should embrace and support this line in any way we can - for it will most likely open doors for future renditions and chances to collect He-Man and co. in all their plastic glory.

We can't let Hasbro and Transformers have all the fun...

[CocoaSmooth]

If the *****ers and the purists had their way, MOTUC would have ended by now - or be close to the end. As long as the numbers are there, Matty will find a way to keep it going.

I am all for constructive criticism - it's how we improve. But *****ing for the sake of *****ing will NOT win any battles. The reality of the matter is: PRINCESS OF POWER and NEW ADVENTURES are a part of the MOTU mythos, and are a part of the MOTUC line. So for the individuals who feel that POP and NA are "ruining" the MOTUC line, then perhaps a sub is not for you. Perhaps the opportunity of purchasing/cherrypicking the figures you want is the way to go.

Unlike other sub lines being released by Mattel, there is a great opportunity to be exposed to a plethora of figures that have not seen a release since the late 1980s. For some of us, it's a refresher. For others, it's a brand new opportunity to collect a figure. If what we've seen with Optikk, Catra and Icarius is any indicator - there will be many collectors who will eat their words when they see new POP and NA figures roll out.

Whatever happens, as fans of MOTU, we should embrace and support this line in any way we can - for it will most likely open doors for future renditions and chances to collect He-Man and co. in all their plastic glory.

We can't let Hasbro and Transformers have all the fun...

Watchout!!! Cherries gonna be thrown your way!!! Mattel is the Hand that feeds us MOTUC... I refuse to bite that hand.

[mykan]

What cherries? Ha.

I don't seek to bite that hand either. I'm thankful for the continual existence of MOTUC. It's the nay sayers that I wonder about.

[ninjor 9]

I am all for CLASSICS ending after the vintage 68 figures are released , mattel would be smart to end it at that , then idle for a while to listen to fans and let the pressure build ,then when a movie ever hits the screen ,and i believe it will explode the box office and create all kinds of new fans , bring back nostalgic fans , new collectors ,and then they will still have something to market during and a few years after the movie release,and that hype may even support a 2nd movie? this run on line will get boring, and collectors will run out of room, so if they are adding these filler (non vintage figures) to the line in hopes of still having a collectible to sell with the movie thats ok with me, but if motuc just goes on forever , will they make a 5th attempt at he man figures?just to make something off of the movie? i see people saying that the reasons of why the vintage line failed was because of this or that , but i say it didnt fail at all, look what it has created ,and 7 years by todays standards is a solid success, with a lot of shows failing in 1 season ,

[wayneepoo]

This thread will get out of control and close in three....two.....

[Reboot]

...wait, you mean this thread ISN'T about adding rubber nipples to costumes?

[midor]

...wait, you mean this thread ISN'T about adding rubber nipples to costumes?

I thought it was about adding Batman & Robin to the classics line.

[Canada-Man]

I am all for CLASSICS ending after the vintage 68 figures are released ,

I would be happy too....but I'd be more happy if we got more figures to add to the mythos

[mykan]

OK, I'll agree that there needs to be some control over silly minutia trickling into the line - and that MOTU and it's spin offs were not failures in relative terms. But when you compare the brand to the longevity of Transformers or Power Rangers - there's a goal that could be achieved. Albeit, I've grown a little oversaturated with TF, but what Hasbro succeeded at over the years was achieving instant brand recognition that resulted in a movie franchise that was hugely successful despite it's crappiness, as well as establishing a solid multimedia juggernaut. MOTU does not have this, and it should...

I think limiting MOTU to it's "vintage" component could be detrimental. Incorporating POG, NA and POP and expanding MOTU's potential is a sound move. It keeps MOTU on people's minds, and doesn't mean that Matty has to build up brand identity/recognition from scratch. And when time does come for a movie, it won't seem to have come out of a vacuum, and will be more likely to attract a substantial audience. Keep the momentum going, and provide opportunities for new fans and collectors to discover the line.

[ninjor 9]

i think my only complaint is the time , i feel its being stretch out on releasing to make more $, and i do understand that if they just made th evintage figures people would stop buying at that ,i see cout marzo auction completed for $10 mip ? that to me says the mainstream collector could care less about new figures , but i think they would if introduced through the movie,what is the common understanding of why the 2002 line failed? , in my opinion as a collector looking for remakes for nostalgic reasons ,and going to stores only to find skeletor and he man of every kindin 2002 ,but i remember in the 80s i could never find he man or skeletor in the stores ,but i remember tons of the other characters.

its bedtime for me now i will ask my wife if she will wear her batman and robin pajamas with the rubber nipples ???????????

[RockinHard]

MOTUC, you can . . .


Do me in the morning . . .


You can do me in the night . . .


You can do me when you want to do me . . .

[Eternian Poet]

[CocoaSmooth]

MOTUC, you can . . .


Do me in the morning . . .


You can do me in the night . . .


You can do me when you want to do me . . .

Best post ever! Lol

[mykan]

i think my only complaint is the time , i feel its being stretch out on releasing to make more $, and i do understand that if they just made th evintage figures people would stop buying at that ,i see cout marzo auction completed for $10 mip ? that to me says the mainstream collector could care less about new figures , but i think they would if introduced through the movie,what is the common understanding of why the 2002 line failed? , in my opinion as a collector looking for remakes for nostalgic reasons ,and going to stores only to find skeletor and he man of every kindin 2002 ,but i remember in the 80s i could never find he man or skeletor in the stores ,but i remember tons of the other characters.

its bedtime for me now i will ask my wife if she will wear her batman and robin pajamas with the rubber nipples ???????????

Of course they want to make more $. That's why the line exists in the first place. MOTUC won't end until collectors stop buying it. I think there's enough momentum to take the line through 2013 - we'll re-evaluate then.

MOTUC is a collector-specific line, but there's the potential to expand it beyond that, as it should be.

Hope you enjoyed those rubber nipples ;0)

I'm gonna go get Count Marzo.

[Count Marzo]

Awesome thread! I give this one a +1, a like, and a thumbs up for sure!

[Merman79]

What is more important... what MOST of the fans want or what Mattel want to sell under the "Name" MotuC?

[fball13z]

If the *****ers and the purists had their way, MOTUC would have ended by now - or be close to the end. As long as the numbers are there, Matty will find a way to keep it going.

I am all for constructive criticism - it's how we improve. But *****ing for the sake of *****ing will NOT win any battles. The reality of the matter is: PRINCESS OF POWER and NEW ADVENTURES are a part of the MOTU mythos, and are a part of the MOTUC line. So for the individuals who feel that POP and NA are "ruining" the MOTUC line, then perhaps a sub is not for you. Perhaps the opportunity of purchasing/cherrypicking the figures you want is the way to go.

Unlike other sub lines being released by Mattel, there is a great opportunity to be exposed to a plethora of figures that have not seen a release since the late 1980s. For some of us, it's a refresher. For others, it's a brand new opportunity to collect a figure. If what we've seen with Optikk, Catra and Icarius is any indicator - there will be many collectors who will eat their words when they see new POP and NA figures roll out.

Whatever happens, as fans of MOTU, we should embrace and support this line in any way we can - for it will most likely open doors for future renditions and chances to collect He-Man and co. in all their plastic glory.

We can't let Hasbro and Transformers have all the fun...

Great post. I was always just a 80s MOTU fan, never cared for POP/NA, I did love the 200X show and toys as well.

But since then MOTUC has introduced me to characters like Bow, Catra, Adora, Optikk and the up coming Icarius. And now I am just a MOTUC fan, its all good.

Pop, NA, filmation, 200x, mini comics, concept, new designs, its all just MOTUC to me.

The more the merrier

[iron_pride]

I must just be different. I have always loved all of it. I grew up with the cartoon as opposed to the comics, and I always like the "expanded universe" (so to speak) aspect of adding in the POP and NA stuff. I know a lot of people are either MOTU fans, or POP fans, but I have just always loved all of it.

[Uki]

Awesome thread! I give this one a +1, a like, and a thumbs up for sure!

MOTUC FOREVER!!!

This toyline is a slice of Heaven, floated down to Earth by a snarky looking cherub named Matty.

I love that we are getting and will continue to get NA, PoP, minicomic, Filmation, Golden Books, concept art, contest winners, new designs, and anything I've forgotten alongside new versions of the Vintage line! If it had just been the Vintage Masters line, this still would have been the greatest toyline...evuh!!! With it's all-inclusivity, it's... It's practically Holy in it's Awesomenetude.

Kudos Mattel. Kudos Toyguru/Scooter. You make me a happy camper!





(....I mean, having a lovely, beautiful wife helps, but you know...)

[bribri4u]

MOTUC FOREVER!!!

This toyline is a slice of Heaven, floated down to Earth by a snarky looking cherub named Matty.

I love that we are getting and will continue to get NA, PoP, minicomic, Filmation, Golden Books, concept art, contest winners, new designs, and anything I've forgotten alongside new versions of the Vintage line! If it had just been the Vintage Masters line, this still would have been the greatest toyline...evuh!!! With it's all-inclusivity, it's... It's practically Holy in it's Awesomenetude.

Kudos Mattel. Kudos Toyguru/Scooter. You make me a happy camper!

I totally agree with this.

[Stratos-2]

I don't mind a few non-classics figures here and there but I think what I feared would happen is happining: "oh no! subscriptions are down! Is the lines future in question." Of course subscriptions are down. I guess I'm a purist because there were only 6 figures I really wanted out 17 for 2011 (sy-clone,man-e-faces,king hiss,clawful,leech and snout spout) and the sub-figure stank imo. 1 evil warrior all year (clawful)? I had 2 subsciptions in 2010, one in 2011 and 0 in 2012. I'm happy other people are getting figures that they want and I don't mind waiting longer for the ones I want but my fear is that subs will fall and the line will get cancelled before figures like ram-man, mekaneck, two-bad, stinkor, spikor, or jitsu are produced. And if that happens I will not be super stoked that 6 all new characters, as well as any NA characters, got figures made instead of classics.

I should add that I do love the line so far and the horsemen are awesome. These are my very favorite action figures ever produced and do indeed hope the line continues for as long as it takes for everyone to get all the figures they want.

[Neal1972]

Nice thread and well said. I embrace all the eras of Motu and my creaking shelf is testament to that.

[VaultsofGrayskull]

OK, I'll agree that there needs to be some control over silly minutia trickling into the line - and that MOTU and it's spin offs were not failures in relative terms. But when you compare the brand to the longevity of Transformers or Power Rangers - there's a goal that could be achieved. Albeit, I've grown a little oversaturated with TF, but what Hasbro succeeded at over the years was achieving instant brand recognition that resulted in a movie franchise that was hugely successful despite it's crappiness, as well as establishing a solid multimedia juggernaut. MOTU does not have this, and it should...

I think limiting MOTU to it's "vintage" component could be detrimental. Incorporating POG, NA and POP and expanding MOTU's potential is a sound move. It keeps MOTU on people's minds, and doesn't mean that Matty has to build up brand identity/recognition from scratch. And when time does come for a movie, it won't seem to have come out of a vacuum, and will be more likely to attract a substantial audience. Keep the momentum going, and provide opportunities for new fans and collectors to discover the line.

There are some conflicting points here. You don't get 'instant brand recognition' from unfamiliar aspects of the line. We like variety from different eras, but that recognition (by people outside fan circles) relies on core characters. NA just doesn't have that.

[mykan]

There are some conflicting points here. You don't get 'instant brand recognition' from unfamiliar aspects of the line. We like variety from different eras, but that recognition (by people outside fan circles) relies on core characters. NA just doesn't have that.

What I meant by 'instant brand recognition', as far as Transformers is concerned, is the strategy on Hasbro's part to always have Transformers product on the market, as well as branching out into video games, novels, comic books, etc. By always maintaining a presence amongst collectors and general consumers, it's easier to maintain a consumer group while also expanding it exponentially.

One of the previous posters on this thread referred to the failed 200x line. I agree with him wholeheartedly that Mattel made some bad calls in the way the line was distributed. Though many, including Mattel will deny it, I believe the way in which 200x was distributed (1 unique figure to every 5 He-Man/Skeletor variants) was the primary reason the line failed. Retailers ordered case upon case of product that consumers would not buy because they didn't want that variant or already had it. With undesired product backed up on the shelves, retailers stopped ordering. And Mattel took that as a sign that the line failed. In response, the cartoon series was pulled, and the comic canceled. Instead of trying to maintain interest in the line, Mattel just shut down, not knowing what the next step should be. To their credit, they did license out the NECA staction figures, but a bigger triumph was yet to come...

To play it "safe", Matty launched a new experiment, only expecting to release 8 to 12 figures. Burned by the retailer experience, Matty sought to sell new MOTU figures exclusively online. It took off, and here we are 2+ years later. Initially, the line was based on the core MOTU figures. But gaining a better gauge for the potential future of the Classics line, Matty proceeded to expand the line by absorbing it's spin-offs: POP, POG, NA and 200x. What we'll be watching Matty do is take chances - if collectors respond well, they'll stay on that course; if they don't, you will most likely NOT see them do it again. As a testament, the second half of 2012, and all of 2013 will not be as ambitious as originally planned.

Though fans are divided into "purist" and "inclusionist" camps, one thing is for certain: MOTU is a larger universe, and in my opinion, a far more interesting universe now that it has "evolved" and continues to grow. It's an exciting time to discover new characters, or perhaps not so mainstream old ones, in a new way.

[Neal1972]

What I meant by 'instant brand recognition', as far as Transformers is concerned, is the strategy on Hasbro's part to always have Transformers product on the market, as well as branching out into video games, novels, comic books, etc. By always maintaining a presence amongst collectors and general consumers, it's easier to maintain a consumer group while also expanding it exponentially.

I totally agree with this. The only way to maintain and expand a fanbase is to have something on the shelves at all times, be it a comic, a toyline, a game or whatever.
Out of sight, out of mind.