The Annihilator: Hordak's personal ship

[Reboot]

A two-person craft, more akin to the Wind Raider or Basher than the vast Collector, the front's pretty clear who it belongs to



So, who wants the Annihilator in MotUC?

[SCB]

I'd rather have that than Windraider.

[kylun flac]

i, just dont know.
i find it embarrassing. spend my money on something else.

[Scorpia]

Yes!!! I love that it has Hordak's face on- like he's trying to make himself some sort of demi-god. The Horde is like a religion.

This needs to be released with space for two figures.

[SCB]

i, just dont know.
i find it embarrassing. spend my money on something else.

Embarrassing? This is he-man.org!

[CocoaSmooth]

Embarrassing? This is he-man.org!

http://multiply.com/mu/allumino/imag...&nmid=80579234

I know right? lol!!!

[Uki]

It's cool, but there are far too many Vintage Vehicles I'd rather see: Land Shark, Bashasayrus, Road Ripper, Dragon Walker, Attack Track, Starship Eternian even, if we want to get big...

[WDWFreak53]

It's cool, but there are far too many Vintage Vehicles I'd rather see: Land Shark, Bashasayrus, Road Ripper, Dragon Walker, Attack Track, Starship Eternian even, if we want to get big...

You forgot Blasterhawk

[gbagok]

If the toy could seat two people, would it be close to the same size as Castle Grayskull? Like all the large items, I'd love to get a model of it at least.

[Prahvus]

While I like the INSIDE of that ship, the outer look of it seems awful to me.

I'm not against an Annihilator, BUT it would have to be redesigned so it will finally look awesome. Just my opinion, anyway...

[chuc98]

It's a cool ship but…I'd rather see something that has an actual vintage counterpart first like Mantisaur! Hordak needs his steed!!

[Reboot]

If the toy could seat two people, would it be close to the same size as Castle Grayskull?

Nope. It'd be roughly as long as the Wind Raider, but a bit than the width of one figure wider (I don't think the wings are quite as long, so the overall wingspan increases less), and a bit taller (mostly because it's enclosed). $50-60 rather than $40, I suppose.

(Even a proper-scale Collector would be something like a third of the size of a proper MotUC Castle Grayskull!)

[Morningstar]

This ship is the same size of the Collector. But making them for one or two size figures is pointless.

[Count Marzo]

If it says "Die Die" anywhere on it, I'm sold.

[The All American]

It's a little cheesy looking. Almost reminds me of some of the Marvel Superhero vehicles Toy Biz made in the early 1990's, where the character was really advertising itself on their vehicle.

I would be in favor of this only after every vintage vehicle and beast is released, and that'll be way down the road, if it happens.

[urbanmyth]

I don't know that this one would make sense as a toy. Is there a windshield that the figure can be seen through? These larger ships become more like a playset than a vehicle. I'd almost rather go with Emiliano's RGD suggestion of doing Hot Wheels type toys for all of the random Filmation vehicles. . . hopefully we could get a bunch.

[gbagok]

Nope. It'd be roughly as long as the Wind Raider, but a bit than the width of one figure wider (I don't think the wings are quite as long, so the overall wingspan increases less), and a bit taller (mostly because it's enclosed). $50-60 rather than $40, I suppose.

(Even a proper-scale Collector would be something like a third of the size of a proper MotUC Castle Grayskull!)

Oh, I thought you meant to keep the two-seater. Shrunk down to one it'd be more manageable, but I think it could lose some of its outside proportions. I'll have a better feel for it when I can see the WR in person. I think I'd like a Batnik at the scale first though.

By "Proper" are you talking scaled down for the toys? Because my idea of proper is close-to-show-accurate, and for that a proper Collector multiplied by three would make CG awful big (granted CG would need to be the size of a standard living room to really be the right size for the figures, but I know that's not realistic).

[TJRules]

Never seen that before, and I like it. If it's the same size as Wind Raider, that'd be great!

[Neal1972]

Considering the name, I expected something a little more intimidating.

It's not a bad design, but the Hordak face spoils the look, imo. If the front end was more tapered, with the face either removed or better integrated into the front, I'd be up for one.

[Larry Waters]

Just like the majority of Filmation ships...goofy.

Honestly, nobody thought as a kid "why in the HELL does all of his stuff have to have his FACE on it???" Nobody thought that?

I mean, I was 9 and I couldn't see that as anything fearful.

The Star Destroyers and Death Star didn't have Vader's mug on them. Ditto Decepticon ships and Megatron.

I think somebody on the design team saw Thanos flying his self-labeled helicopter and figured it wasn't THAT much of a leap!

Goofy, goofy, goofy...

[Benedict Judas Hel]

If it says "Die Die" anywhere on it, I'm sold.

Why would you want it to say "The The" in German?

[Count Marzo]

Why would you want it to say "The The" in German?

http://bustatoons.blogspot.com/2006/07/die-die.html

[Benedict Judas Hel]

http://bustatoons.blogspot.com/2006/07/die-die.html

[Reboot]

Oh, I thought you meant to keep the two-seater. Shrunk down to one it'd be more manageable, but I think it could lose some of its outside proportions. I'll have a better feel for it when I can see the WR in person.

I meant to keep it as a two-person craft

I think I'd like a Batnik at the scale first though.

Remember - Batniks were the Cylon Raiders of the Horde - no pilots!

By "Proper" are you talking scaled down for the toys? Because my idea of proper is close-to-show-accurate, and for that a proper Collector multiplied by three would make CG awful big (granted CG would need to be the size of a standard living room to really be the right size for the figures, but I know that's not realistic).

I meant show-accurate, but there's some tolerance in that. Probably easier to show than explain - see the bottom-right in this rough chart of sizes:


I think, taking out the pipe to trap MEF in, Skeletor's throne, etc, you could jam something like 15 male MotUC figures in a properly-scaled Collector (remembering that MotUC figures have different proportions to Filmation characters - the latter were designed by rotoscoping actual musclemen, whereas MotUC takes the... breadth... of the characters a bit beyond reality!)

Honestly, nobody thought as a kid "why in the HELL does all of his stuff have to have his FACE on it???" Nobody thought that?

And yet, you're fine with the MotUC Horde logo, which has Hordak's face right in the middle of it? [The Filmation Horde symbol was more abstract and so *didn't* look like Hordak.]

Ditto Decepticon ships and Megatron.

Only because Soundwave dibbed it first! [Seriously, the G1 Decepticon sigil was designed after Soundwave for some reason. The G1 Autobot symbol was after Prowl, but that's less obvious and they keep introing unseen-but-important characters with more blatant Autobot-faces]

[gbagok]

I meant to keep it as a two-person craft


Remember - Batniks were the Cylon Raiders of the Horde - no pilots!


I meant show-accurate, but there's some tolerance in that. Probably easier to show than explain - see the bottom-right in this rough chart of sizes:
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...ctorScales.jpg

I commend your work, although I was definitely perceiving it on the bigger scale for the show than in your mock up (I'd seen it more like one of the Runabouts from Star Trek Deep Space Nine). Sizing it down from where I was would be the only way, and I didn't really think two-seaters would be possible. With the scale you have in mind, I think your $60 estimate could be optimistic factoring in the wingspan and the height/enclosure, but if the Horsemen can make it according to your vision and keep it's cost down, that will be a wonderful vehicle to own.

RE Batniks, oh yes I know they were flying robots, but I'd still want space for either a robot pilot figure (interpreting "no pilots" to mean no living pilot), a Horde Trooper, or at least a passenger for the auto-pilot. So that would be more Windraider sized than what you've got going for the Annihilator.

That Collector, while smaller than the show's Grayskull, looks about as big as the vintage CG and I honestly cannot yet envision MOTUC's bigger CG yet. If it were the scale in your picture...I KNOW I would't have space for it! It's not the living room, but it's darned near half of it!