I'm all for 200x figures. I think a lot of people here want that.
So, I want to know if there is anyone turned off by Mattel not acknowledging the 10th Anniversary of MOTU 200x? Don't get me wrong. I'm a huge huge vintage guy. I understand the attention given to the 30th anniversary of MOTU. I'm all for it!! But, I do think it would be nice to incorporate at least 1 figure from 200X. Why not take the opportunity to do this. Give us Snake Armor He-Man. Or something...anything. Please share your thoughts on this subject. I know all the 2011 Classics reveals haven't been made so maybe there's a chance.
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I'm all for 200x figures. I think a lot of people here want that.
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Snake Armor He-Man wouldn't be my first choice, but it would be nice to get SOMETHING from 200x for the 10th Anniversary.
They have the perfect opportunity with Power-Con coming in order to do this.
It would be very awesome if they would do something for the 200x fans. Perhaps 1 more staction? Like spikor or scareglow. A classics 200x figure isn't really that special since they are already doing those. Unless they give us a 200x Adam with a new buck. I would welcome something that shows they didn't forget we are also still here.
However on the flip side. NA and POP never got an anniversary either. Oh wait, pop did.
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Spikor would be nice!!
..or a better question: Who turned off the 200x 10th Anniversary ???
Over at PlanetEternia.de, right now till the end of this week we're commemorating the 10th anniversary of Mattel presenting their 200X He-Man (happend at SDCC 2001).
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Like many other fans, I am very happy about Mattel's and Classic Media's plans for the 30th Anniversary of the "MotU" property. However, I also think the 2002 incarnation deserves some love for the 10th. I would love to see Veena or some other 2002 characters appearing in the "MotU:C" line.
Mattel please, buy the He-Man and She-Ra cartoons from Entertainment Rights. If you owned Both Filmation related "MotU" cartoons, plus "NA" and "MYP" cartoons, you would be able to distribute any or all 4 cartoons to Television in the lead up to another relaunch or a live action movie. Plus, you could include Filmation and "NA" animated characters in "MotU:C"!
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At the expense of being "that guy", I wanted to chime in with a different opinion. Firstly, the 30th Anniversary is of the Masters Of The Universe property, not just the vintage line. New Adventures never got a proper 10th or 20th anniversary celebration, neither did Princess of Power. As a matter of fact, the 2002(X) line more or less coincided with the 20th anniversary of the property so it's kind of redundant to celebrate the anniversary of an anniversary. Also, there has been plenty of homages to the 200X line thrown in throughout Classics with more on the way (See Fisto and his second head, 200X sword, and 200X belt and Battleground Evil Lynn). Secondly, you don't celebrate failure. Regardless of what the underlying factor (poor management of the line by Mattel, Cartoon Network's mishandling of the show's timeslot, etc) the 2002(X) relaunch was not successful. Don't get me wrong, I loved the show and thought it went a long way in adding a lot to the myhtos of Masters Of The Universe and feel that it's cancellation was a huge disservice to the fandom. However, between much of 200X's story elements being incorporated (not always successfully) into the Classics' canon as well as the above mentioned 200X elements and inspirations in the figures, 200X has been given plenty more love than you could hope for a toyline that for all intents and purposes failed. The 200X figures were fine when that line came out, but the style just no longer fits with the current line due to the parts reuse and Mattel will not allocate the resources to develop a one-off figure. I think 200X has been represented far more and better than POP and NA. Hell, The first figure produced for classics, King Grayskull was a 200X character. A separate anniversary celebration is unnecessary, but that's just my opinion.
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Sensing some bad vibes. I do love that there are 200X figures in the line. I like how they are being classisized. I'm a vintage fan at my core. I'm not saying Mattel or TG are not doing a good job. I just thought a nice nod could have been given to a 200X figure such as Snake Armor He-Man or whoever. For the most part nobody wants to celebrate NA or POP. Let's be honest they are just not as desirable as the Vintage line. To me 200X was a representation of the old line. Just more detailed & amped up more. We didn't get an array of aweful characters like the NA line did. Besides the array of variants. I don't want to go into detail on why people think 200X failed. It didn't to me. Sure, things could have been handled better but this isn't the case. 200X was a very good relaunch incorporating elements of the vintage line and some new stuff (KG). I don't need Mattel to throw a party for 200X. Just a reminder to say hey 200x Fans it's also the 10th yada yada...Here is a 200X figure we've all been wanting from the line & it's in the 2011 subscription.
Well, I'm just wanting a Classisized 200X figure in which Mattel says Oh hey it's also 10th Ann. of 2002 MOTU modern series. Here's what we have.......... I know we're getting 200x figs. in the line. To be fair all the MOTU lines have failed. Some worse than others. This is not what I want to talk about in this thread. I know NA & POP fans would not like my comments. But, NA & POP are not at the top of MOTU IMO.
I think a MOTUC 200X He-Man vs Skeletor two-pack would be killer for the anniversary.
He-Man new parts:
- non-screaming head and new hair (head can be re-used for NA He-Man)
- loin cloth
- techno axe
- King Grayskull harness without the shoulder prongs
Skeletor new parts:
- skirt with longer straps and the belt details
- proper 200X half swords
- bare human-like feet
- creepier, more detailed skull face
Non-obvious shared parts:
- Preternia He-Man cowl
- He-Man or Bow bracelets
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I think we've all FAILED!! I just think it'd be nice to recognize 200X for it's take on MOTU. That's it. I don't need another figure (would be nice though) or whatever. Just a nod to say we didn't forget 200X. 200X really got me geared up again as a Masters fan and a collector. W/o 200X there may not have been a Classics line. Debatable, I know. But, I loved the cartoon, figures, and most of all the Stactions. Let's debate this but be considerate and respectful guys and gals.
200X's failure is Mattel's own fault--something that they've never owned up to.Secondly, you don't celebrate failure. Regardless of what the underlying factor (poor management of the line by Mattel, Cartoon Network's mishandling of the show's timeslot, etc) the 2002(X) relaunch was not successful.
I think POP has been better represented than 200X has. Adora, two She-Ra's, Bow, Catra, the Star Sisters and Swiftwind.Don't get me wrong, I loved the show and thought it went a long way in adding a lot to the myhtos of Masters Of The Universe and feel that it's cancellation was a huge disservice to the fandom. However, between much of 200X's story elements being incorporated (not always successfully) into the Classics' canon as well as the above mentioned 200X elements and inspirations in the figures, 200X has been given plenty more love than you could hope for a toyline that for all intents and purposes failed. The 200X figures were fine when that line came out, but the style just no longer fits with the current line due to the parts reuse and Mattel will not allocate the resources to develop a one-off figure. I think 200X has been represented far more and better than POP and NA. Hell, The first figure produced for classics, King Grayskull was a 200X character. A separate anniversary celebration is unnecessary, but that's just my opinion.
200X fans have also had to endure shenanighans from Mattel every year since 2009. First we go back and forth about a possible 200X He-Man with Mattel, then we lose Keldor's Swords, then we lose 200X heads, now Battleground Evil-Lyn went from "having quite a few new parts" and "not being a repaint" into being a repaint. How many "anti-200X" press conferences have we gotten that have turned into 60 page Era War debates? No other era of MOTU goes through this. No other era loses accessories or entire costumes like 200X does.
I think a 200X anniversary nod or at least some sort of acknowledgement would help fans realize that there aren't bigwigs over at Mattel who hate 200X, a feeling that fans have long felt, despite Toyguru defending his bosses and claiming otherwise.
Technically 2012 is the 10th anniversary, not 2011.
I know the 2-up statue debuted at SDCC in the summer of 2001, but that was just a teaser item. It wasn't until 2002 that the line started hitting stores with the cartoon right behind it.
We'll do something fun for the 10th year of 200x at next year's Power-Con/ThunderCon. Who knows, if this year's show does well, maybe Mattel and the 4H will also be on board to help celebrate it.
Scott's very motu proactive at Mattel. So if anyone inside the company will push for it, he will. Keep the hope alive!
I love you, but I can't agree with you here. 200X has been a HUGE part of MOTUC. HUGE.
- King Grayskull
- King Grayskull 2.0
- Count Marzo
- The Faceless One
- Hordak's Staff
- The Tech Power Sword (2 versions)
- Tri-Klops' Doomseeker
- Webstor's Extra legs
- King Randor's Sword and Staff
- Evil-Lyn's long staff
- Whiplash's 200X Head and weapon
- Grizzlor's loin-cloth & weapons pack
- Buzz-Off's long axe
- Sy-Klone's Ring
- Clawful's armor has a decidedly 200X flavor & his mace has the Staction shell detailing
- Battleground Evil-Lyn's color-scheme and helmetless head
- Fisto's belt, 200X head, and extra sword
- Kobra Khan's extra head, and his pet
Then there are the bios... the story which has basically allowed for much of the proposed 3rd season to become canon.
The maps have 200X icons and influences as well.
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