Who wants a sexy Madam Razz vs Filmation Razz?

[Benedict Judas Hel]

Try thinking like a Eartling not a Coulan.

I don't think my intelligence can dip that low...

[KingRandor82]

Filmation Razz, please.

She's one of my favorite POP characters of all time.

In fact, she and Sea Hawk are the only ones I want almost as much as more Hordesmen.

[Swifty]

No.

This isn't what Madame Razz is about. Her age and style contribute to her character, as does her scatter-brainedness.

After 25 years, can we have a cartoon-accurate Madame Razz rather than jumping this to make her 'cool' or 'sexy'? Embrace what Razz is - she's quirky, scatty and above all, fun!

Amen TO THAT! Madame Razz deserves to be included in the line EXACTLY AS SHE IS. It's frustrating that people constantly feel the need to shift female characters in fantasy and science-fiction into some slim figured, big chested male fantasy. This as a beloved character, admittedly not by all, and she should be extended the dignity to be welcomed into the line in all her frumpy, grandmotherish glory!

[Crusader]

Madame Razz deserves to be included in the line EXACTLY AS SHE IS.

No, you are talking about how she was in Filmation and in the comics. The drawing of Buffalo Bill-Man is actually very close to that design, without the stupid holes in her hat with those obnoxious yellow eyes leering through and some extra added detail. I hope the Horsemen continue in the same vein and make her as appealing as Buffalo Bill-Man did ... 'cause if Razz ends up like the Filmation tart I won't be buying her.

[zodak74]

I don't particularly care for Madame Razz or Broom... but considering they are two of She-Ra's main allies in PoP and Mattel now has the Filmation rights, I have to admit I don't feel like it would be "right" for them to do the figures of Razz and Broom any other way but 100% faithful to how they appeared in the Filmation cartoon.

[Dark Sorceress]

No, you are talking about how she was in Filmation and in the comics. The drawing of Buffalo Bill-Man is actually very close to that design, without the stupid holes in her hat with those obnoxious yellow eyes leering through and some extra added detail. I hope the Horsemen continue in the same vein and make her as appealing as Buffalo Bill-Man did ... 'cause if Razz ends up like the Filmation tart I won't be buying her.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...BroomHiRes.jpg

i LOVE that look for her

[Swifty]

No, you are talking about how she was in Filmation and in the comics. The drawing of Buffalo Bill-Man is actually very close to that design, without the stupid holes in her hat with those obnoxious yellow eyes leering through and some extra added detail. I hope the Horsemen continue in the same vein and make her as appealing as Buffalo Bill-Man did ... 'cause if Razz ends up like the Filmation tart I won't be buying her.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...BroomHiRes.jpg

Yes, that's what I'm referring to because that's the only place she ever appeared in an official capacity. Beautiful fan-art aside, there is only one way she has ever been officially depicted and that is the way she should come in MOTUC. If people honestly think she's going to be updated into some sexy sorceress then they need to share whatever they're smoking.

[CreamCheeseAlchemy]

Yes, that's what I'm referring to because that's the only place she ever appeared in an official capacity. Beautiful fan-art aside, there is only one way she has ever been officially depicted and that is the way she should come in MOTUC. If people honestly think she's going to be updated into some sexy sorceress then they need to share whatever they're smoking.

If Orko didn't get "sexified", Mme Razz shouldn't either. That said, this thread is giving me flashbacks of http://www.xkstation.com/everyonepea...SH/kureha1.jpg lol

[Crusader]

Yes, that's what I'm referring to because that's the only place she ever appeared in an official capacity. Beautiful fan-art aside, there is only one way she has ever been officially depicted and that is the way she should come in MOTUC. If people honestly think she's going to be updated into some sexy sorceress then they need to share whatever they're smoking.

Well, we just have different standards, you want to see a faithful reproduction of a - at least in my eyes - horrible character, while I'm more interested in getting an aesthetically pleasing figure. I never liked Madame Razz in Filmation, in fact I abhor her, but the re-imaginings make her into something worth spending 30$. I wouldn't pick up a Filmation Madame Razz, even if they were handing them out for free.

[Barbecue17]

I prefer the custom and fan art based Razz for MOTUC! Leave the Filmation Razz in her cel.

[Chroniklor]

Well, we just have different standards, you want to see a faithful reproduction of a - at least in my eyes - horrible character, while I'm more interested in getting an aesthetically pleasing figure. I never liked Madame Razz in Filmation, in fact I abhor her, but the re-imaginings make her into something worth spending 30$. I wouldn't pick up a Filmation Madame Razz, even if they were handing them out for free.

Hmmmm, for free you say... I'd be on the fence then. In any other case, the fan art version is really great - oh deary my.

[Barbecue17]

You know, as much as I like the fan art and custom figure in this thread, I'd feel bad for the POP fans who didn't get the Madame Razz figure they have always wanted. Besides, I think there's little to no chance Mattel would do something drastically different with the character.

Although, the "sexy" Madame Razz could use the regular female buck. The Filmation version would most likely need a new buck, and thus might not see a release because of that. Of course, we could always hear the line that "if Madame Razz had been made in the 80's, she would have shared a buck with She-Ra."

[Swifty]

You know, as much as I like the fan art and custom figure in this thread, I'd feel bad for the POP fans who didn't get the Madame Razz figure they have always wanted. Besides, I think there's little to no chance Mattel would do something drastically different with the character.

Although, the "sexy" Madame Razz could use the regular female buck. The Filmation version would most likely need a new buck, and thus might not see a release because of that. Of course, we could always hear the line that "if Madame Razz had been made in the 80's, she would have shared a buck with She-Ra."

Well Kowl and Loo-Kee didn't share a buck with She-Ra so it certainly wasn't off the table to tool a new buck

[Judeh Simon]

No.

This isn't what Madame Razz is about. Her age and style contribute to her character, as does her scatter-brainedness.

After 25 years, can we have a cartoon-accurate Madame Razz rather than jumping this to make her 'cool' or 'sexy'? Embrace what Razz is - she's quirky, scatty and above all, fun!

This! I don't get why she needs to be sexualized or made out of the standard female buck. It's like asking for Orko to share the same body type as he-man.

Let's get the actual character first before we start asking for fan art versions.

[Barezz]

I always hated the character of Madam Razz in the pop cartoon and I think this was more to do on how silly and unattractive she looked rather then how silly and stupid she behaved. Now, I really wouldn’t mind Madam Razz’s personality if she was hot and had cleavage spilling over. This would be vast compensation for her goofyness and would explain why the Ethernian men hadn’t yet burnt her at stake with pitchfork in hand.

What do you guys think?

Lol as long as a woman is "hot and shows some cleavage" they can have as annoying a personality as they want? That should have popped up as the morale in a She-ra episode.

[Sky Breaker]

Found this picture of a custom Madam Razz and I really like her (she looks sexy). I think something like this could be achieved with the standard female MOTUC buck.

I always hated the character of Madam Razz in the pop cartoon and I think this was more to do on how silly and unattractive she looked rather then how silly and stupid she behaved. Now, I really wouldn’t mind Madam Razz’s personality if she was hot and had cleavage spilling over. This would be vast compensation for her goofyness and would explain why the Ethernian men hadn’t yet burnt her at stake with pitchfork in hand.

What do you guys think?

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs17/f/20...htwing1975.jpg

as apposed to:

http://www.rubberslug.com/user/1880f...zz-&-Broom.jpg

Why does Madame Razz need to be sexualized? She is a children's cartoon character. She is a piece of plastic. She is a toy. While I'm fine with updates, changes and costume tweaks, do we really need a 'sexy' Madame Razz? The fan art is lovely, however it doesn't seem to fit MOTUC.

Most fans would probably think that I'm silly for thinking Man-E-Faces has way too much armor on. He should have come with a naked torso option, to show off those rippling pecs, washboard abs and that beautiful glowing orange skin.

I don't think we will get Gym Stud Man-E-Faces or Eternian Beach Bikini Adam anytime soon (nor is there a demand), so Sexy RAzz may have be denied.

I don't want "sexy" in Masters of the Universe.

and since I'm a filmation fan I pick the filmation version.

I'm guessing you missed someone called Battleground Teela. I'm sure there are a few guys out there with her in hand when they're feeling down. Ha ha ha ha.

[Romer]

Madame Razz must look just the way she looked in the Filmation cartoon.

Making her look like that drawing is the most idiotic idea ever.

Pretty much every other She-ra characters can be sexy, leave Razz alone

[Swifty]

Madame Razz must look just the way she looked in the Filmation cartoon.

Making her look like that drawing is the most idiotic idea ever.

Pretty much every other She-ra characters can be sexy, leave Razz alone

Amen to THAT! Go vote in my poll if you haven't already so Mattel knows we want our Razz the only way she was ever meant to be