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Why doesn't Mattel just hire Emiliano? Great artist, great designer, what do they have to lose?
I don't know the back story, but I gather there is some relationship here that may have went sour, can someone fill me in?
I think Emiliano's design is great. I also think Mattel could have achieved a better result if they didn't go for the cheap stuff once again (remember, Terry from the 4 Horsemen was praised because the "solution" he came up with was a cheap, cost cutting one !)...
I guess we'll never see the day when this toy company actually goes for quality... We saw it back in the 80's, but it's all gone, now.
Thank you Emiliano for sharing your design with us ! (Do you have any knowledge in toy engineering, by the way ?).
terry works for mattel's inhouse design team he isn't one of the horsemen.
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Ah ! OK. I guess this explains perfectly why the design is so weird and cheap-looking...terry works for mattel's inhouse design team he isn't one of the horsemen.
Thank you for the info, krosfyah !
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It would be nice to get the newly mentioned wing situation controlled that you mentioned and I wouldn't mind waiting the time for it to be done.
However it seems that she is already produced and they are just waiting on full shipment of her to arrive, is this true?
Perhaps I might need to get a third one of the Sorceress, which I would still love to do because I am thrilled with her.
I also am thrilled with the new line-up, I hope the international fans are happy with Shadow Weaver being sent in February, because having Shadow Weaver and Sorceress in the same month would make me very happy
But we don't want to got back to old stories again.
Guys, it's OK... Sorceress is popular enough to revisit again and again...
TOD Sorceress 1.0
Battleground Sorceress (Sorceress 1.0 in 200X Colors)
Pink Mini Comic Sorcress 1.0
The 2.0 versions of the repaints!
and if they aver get the rights Movie Sorceress
200X Sorceress in Classic colors
200X Sorceress in all the other repaints...
Hopefully Mattel will do a Sorceress 2.0 With fixed wings before going Sorceress variant Crazy
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Ohhh so you do work on the Transformers brand- makes sense given some of the crazy stuff they have to do to get transformations to work! Did you design the Rodimus Prime crystal variant Emil because it almost struck me as something you'd do given how aesthetically pleasing it remains in both vehicle and robot mode?
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Thid thread is amazing. It shows how having seemingly only one eye on these things (Terry) ends up not working all the time. Emilano's second design is killer, and also we may have the answers to dumpy crotch!
That shera 2.0 crotch has the holes too low... making the hip sockets too low on seemingly all the figures that use that piece. Can we please fix this before the other females? Please?
I also don't think that it was to save money. I think that they feared that the wing attachment would be too weak the original way and spent their time and money moving the attachment point rather than finding a solution that would keep the wings working properly. I don't think they believed it was that big of a deal.
So here it is...
Wow, is that ever lame. Emiliano's solution is absolutely brilliant by comparison.
I usually work on early concepts for possible new products or styling upcoming products. Recently I worked more with the IP dept. on movie preproduction.
LOL, I think also a solution insipred by the idea on the first page posted by DO4M would work as well
The shoulder or the ellbow piece would have just larger and longer peg that connect each other. The middle section (the one with the wing) would work as ring that slides around that peg. So no need of two separated pegs anymore.
Not sure if that could use Teela ellbow and not look too long or be too fragile, but it might!
Oh, and one thing I didn't mention is that the top wing need to have a small hook the keep the wing middle section up, or it would fall over.
I like Emiliano's designs (and everything he does!), but I'm not terribly bothered by what we're getting. Of course, I collected Star Wars for years, and I always loved the TPM Darth Sidious, whose sleeve-blade cloak looked ridiculous if his arms moved too much.
Still, I may grab an extra Sorceress sometime to fiddle with myself.
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I completely agree with your design. With that design the Sorceress would have had MANY posing options. No matter where the arms were you could have the wings out. Either arms out to the side, or straight up; the wings wouldn't look out of place. With the current design you have ONE pose. That's it. And restricted arms. I know they had thier hearts in the right place; trying to mimic the old toy and all. It's just that these new figures are supposed to do MORE than the originals. Granted, she has working joints, but with the wings where they are she is put below all the other figures in posing options.
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Any suggestion for a simple customization which might improve the wings?
Instead of those horrible drums I rather prefer the vintage version where the wings were attached in the back.
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It was fouled up, they tried to improve it & FAILED. I mean FAILED.
As for the whole issue with the wings. The issue could have easily been resolved! The issue here is money! Which could easily been available if Scott would stop having so much for MOTUC in one month! Having 1 monthly, 1 bonus, and one either beast or Large scale figure a month is a bit much! And on top of that, the subs for Ghostbusters, DC Universe, Voltron. Maybe if they would have their products available on different days with in the month. Spread it out. Things would be a bit better. But Scott refuses to listen when it comes to that! I liked it when it was at most $60 a month. Now it's going to be about $150 on some months. It hurts on some months!
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