Reply With QuoteI have a feeling that he will not be $80 like originally said. I think he'll be more $100 now. With them raising the cost of everything. I can see them raising his price to cover the cost of the tooling cause he will be another Wind Raider!
With the current attitude around Mattel's idea of success, I would be very surprised if they made him. His tooling is going to cost $$. With the way they increased the cost of the WR and still it was unsuccessful, I dont think they are going to pull the trigger on this. It is not a guaranteed item, in the sense that it is not in the sub, so I will be the first to say that I will not be surprised when they cancel the dragon.
I have a feeling that he will not be $80 like originally said. I think he'll be more $100 now. With them raising the cost of everything. I can see them raising his price to cover the cost of the tooling cause he will be another Wind Raider!
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My guess is also that it will only sell 'ok' as in selling out after a couple of days.Originally Posted by Berserker79
Granamyr is a little different from the Windraider in which not everyone seems to be behind it and/or people are waiting to see how it turns out to decide.
- If Granymir is pure vintage (goofy old dragon) it will be ignored by people wanting something modern (like me)
- If Granymir is pure vintage but red, it will be ignored by comic fans
- If Granymir is pure vintage but green, it will be ignored by cartoon fans.
- If Granymir is modernized, it will be ignored by strict cartoon/comic fans.
You can't really win with this figure as not everyone will 'love' it. I suspect that it will sell out but not at the speed that Mattel wants and on top of that, the costings are likely to be badly thought out like Windraider. As it has been said several times, a normal company who did it's planning and costing properly would declare a 3 day sell out a complete succes...a normal company that is...
I think Mattel should have remained quiet about the pricing of Granamyr since there is a very, very good chance he's going to cost more than $80. Each dollar above this is going to put more and more people off buying, who might not have been had they not known the 'original' price.
I think he'll be $88.
I believe he will sell ok, which is waaay better than poor. At an $80+ USD price point I think for many it will come down to whether or not an individual really wanted red or green and that along with x-mas time will influence sales. I'm hoping red aficianado's push sales up to at least okay so that die heard fans o' the green have a good shot at getting a green granamyr released. Green Granamyr might make a nice convention exclusive as well if they choose not to release him like the red.
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considering that Matty was able to sell out of two separate offerings of the DCUC Legion of SuperHeroes box set with a price point of almost $200 - I think there's a chance the dragon will do OK. Obviously there will be people priced out for such a piece at $80 or $90 - but I think there are lots of people that will need to get one too.
Personally I'm looking forward to it and am opening up his spot on the display shelves now.
I hope they do... I would rather have a vehicle. How big is he supposed to be anyway? For $80-100 dollars he better be the size of a small dog.
I'll only get him if he goes up in value like the TRU 2 packs.
You can always return him to Matty if the resale value goes down... and then create a thread telling everyone how cool you are for doing it.
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Only if they keep him in low production, that way he will be a rare find.
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I don't think Granamyr will do as well as the WR. I do believe he has his own following of certain fans like myself. I could be wrong. With a price point of $88 plus shipping it will be steep for many fans before this years holiday season. Our awesome fans across the ponds will have to deal w/ even higher shipping costs & customs fees. Ouch.
If there`re around 10.000 to 15.000 units sold each month, most customers are not active on the boards.
Who knows, how many casual customers are motivated to buy such an expensive item?
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I think you are forgetting that Mo-Larr, The Star Sisters and Spector all have fans that wanted them. Though it seems the majority of fans were left scratching their heads, or venting their frustrations in multiple threads (and making quite the fuss) long after their announcement and release, they still sold.
Granamyr will sell.
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In all honesty, I don't think that's exactly the right question to ask. With the Wind Raider, based on what I read from ToyGuru's response, the conclusion was that the WR didn't sell well enough to make a vehicle a regular offering. Given the many large vehicles from the original line that could be classic-ized, there was a possibility of making other vehicles at $45 on a regular basis, which is now off the table.
But does anyone, even Mattel executives, think there is a possibility of making a regular $80-$100 figure? After Granamyr, who else would you make at that size/price point that you couldn't make at a smaller beast-level price point or a Tytus/Megator price point? Sure, you could argue that Mattel might see this as a litmus test for larger playsets, but I think even the Matty suits would be able to discern that a playset that was part of the original line (e.g. Castle Grayskull, Snake Mountain) is a different item, and would elicit a far different consumer response than an oversized Filmation figure that's much less iconic than locations which appeared in just about every MOTU mini-comic/cartoon episode.
I'll definitely be buying a Granamyr at $80 or at $100 and yes, I'd be just crazy enough to buy second one if they redid him in green. I also think Mattel will sell through its stock (which it won't produce at near-subscription levels) in a reasonable amount of time. But I think the question itself is flawed - you can't consider Granamyr's sellout time as a gauge for a regular offering of other similar-sized figures because there aren't many, if any, other notable similar-sized figures to be made.
That's my take on it, personally.
Personally, I'm stoked for big G! Not sure how he'll perform, but I look very much forward to having him!
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I never said he wouldn't sell. I specifically said that it will sellout 'ok' but as we know now, that's not good enough.
He better not come with 2 right legs, loose ankle joints, backwards shoulders with drums, or a rubbery left hand.
I think Granamyr will do fine as Mattel will make only a certain amount of him, maybe less than they did the Wind Raider. All I know is if I like what I see when they show him Sculpted I'll get him. I would want him in my collection since Mattel is not reissuing any of the new figures or beasts in 2012 or 2013.
They said not "reissuing", they didn't say they would only be sold once and never again.
Basically, I think people breathed way too much into that statement. It means "The Original" nonsense is going away. That doesn't mean they didn't make a crap ton at once, or couldn't go back and make some more if they wanted should demand dictate.
One of the key differences for me between the WR and Granamyr is that the WR was originally scheduled for an earlier release and then only came out in December, which is not a great month to release an expensive item. There was fair warning beforehand, but news does not reach everyone's ears the moment it is uttered.
Granamyr is also coming out in December, but we've known about it for months already. Thus, we have ample time to budget for such an expensive toy, which makes a big, big difference.
His high price point will buy a certain amount of exclusivity, because a a fair amount of fans won't want to fork out that much money. It adds to the appeal of the dragon and makes him more of a collectable.
One way or the other, Granamyr isn't going to be an item where people are undecided if they want him or not. You'll either want him desperately or not at all.
To answer the question, i doubt it will sell out in less than 3 days. So the time wont be ok or will it??? When it works for them I suppose.
Here are some facts, we want a castle, battleram, ram man. They will all sell out but maybe not in 3 days, so not worth making is what i am hearing.....
I'll take the over on 3 days for Granamyr
I think a better comparison would be Stay Puff Man.
He has come back several times, and it's clear they have a ton of them. And as way frickin' cool as it is (the backdrop made me almost buy it and I don't even collect GB) that is just a huge hunk of change and a big space hog.
I can't see Granamyr being that essential, to be honest. I'll get one (just one), but he's not a major character, and at the $88 price point I'm sure he will come as, plus shipping - you are talking over $100 for one figure.
It's going to be a hard sell, especially in December.
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