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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkspecter View Post
    I'm hoping they revive the Sorceress in MOTUC (as she never should have died...she cured herself with the Power of Grayskull...right?) and then she continues on being the Sorceress. I mean...how are they going to explain NA Sorceress and NA Teela now?
    Yeah, I reckon we will see something like a COSMIC SPIRIT SORCERESS for NA, and then she can continue to exist in spirit form from then on, maybe actaully coming back to life. They actually say very little about the Sorceress in this bible, just that she guides Dare occasionally.

    Also, thanks for the ToyGuru quote regarding Son of Keldor / Evil Lyn NOT being Dare! (although I wouldn't have minded either way to be honest, I think both story arcs would have their interesting developments!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkspecter View Post
    Well...that's a little tricky. Duncan may or may not be Teela's biological father depending on the canon you follow. Dare was found, and then taken in by King Adam. It's true Teela and Adam adopt Dare, but he will probably only be their son for a year (it sounded like Adora and Sea Hawk would find their son in the final episode(s) of the series).

    If you want to get all technical, Kay-La is his cousin, but the only person Dare is related to is King Adam...and if Adora and Sea Hawk take back their son, Kay-La and Dare have no relation again.

    Kay-La and Dare are the Teela and Adam of this series. Dare is also Adora (story-wise) and Skeletor and Evil-Lyn become Hordak and Shadow Weaver (story-wise).

    I don't know how everyone feels about this series, but I think it would have been really cool!
    I think it's kinda creepy. If Dare is She-Ra's son and Kay-La is Teela's cousin then Dare would have a romantic relationship with his aunt's cousin. Even though Teela is his aunt by marriage it's still a little creepy. It's like there are only 2 families on Eternia/Etheria. The gene pool is really small.

    Now, the transition from Skeletor to Hordak as the antagonist does sound pretty cool.

    I could definitely get into a Next Generation series but choices like making Dare's love interest is his cousin really make me scratch my head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piccolo Daimaoh View Post
    I think it's kinda creepy. If Dare is She-Ra's son and Kay-La is Teela's cousin then Dare would have a romantic relationship with his aunt's cousin. Even though Teela is his aunt by marriage it's still a little creepy. It's like there are only 2 families on Eternia/Etheria. The gene pool is really small.

    Now, the transition from Skeletor to Hordak as the antagonist does sound pretty cool.

    I could definitely get into a Next Generation series but choices like making Dare's love interest is his cousin really make me scratch my head.
    Things are complicated. My female cousin on my dad's side dated my male cousin on my mom's side. They didn't know I was related to each of them. It weirded my female cousin out a bit, even though they weren't related to each other at all. Their relationship didn't last, but nothing was wrong with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkspecter View Post
    Things are complicated. My female cousin on my dad's side dated my male cousin on my mom's side. They didn't know I was related to each of them. It weirded my female cousin out a bit, even though they weren't related to each other at all. Their relationship didn't last, but nothing was wrong with it.
    You're right, there is nothing wrong with it but it's seems overly complicated and weird. I know there is no blood relation but as this story goes we would know and the characters would know there is a relation there, they just wouldn't know until the end that they are closer then they know. To me, and of course this is all opinion, it hurts the story.
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    I don't exactly love all the character redesigns, but I like a lot of them. This whole thing is really interesting to me. It could result in a whooooole lot of cool looking figures. Naturally, I prefer the more savage, barbaric looking ones.

    I like the fact that if you don't care for this future, you can just ignore it and focus on the Eternia of 'now'.
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    YESyesYESyesYES!!! I'd love all of this worked into the MOTUC canon and toyline. Sign me up.
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    I'm all for most of these characters & new renderings of old classic characters.

    love dare & he-ro, king adam, new ram man, m@a, new man-e-faces, new beast man, missile-toe, slob-boar & maybe others.
    done care for the new evil-lyn, air-bag, new battlecat, battle-bird, fork-lift, bug-eye & ever-mean.
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    if teela is a clone of the sorceress by skeletor as in the bios she has no connection to fisto.
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    Why is everyone adopted or cloned. Can't anyone make their own babies in Eternia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jef-at-Arms View Post
    Why is everyone adopted or cloned. Can't anyone make their own babies in Eternia?
    Perhaps in a "movie year!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by MISSILE-TOE View Post

    KAY-LA

    17 year old Kay-La is Man-At-Arm's niece (and presumably Fisto's daughter?), and is instructed with teaching Prince Dare how to compose himself in public. She feels she is ready to be a warrior, as she has been trained in martial arts, swordplay and marksmanship, and feels bitter about having to "babysit" Dare. She is aware that Dare has a crush on her, but her true affections lie with the mighty warrior He-Ro.
    Although she is well trained, her immaturity and eagerness to jump into action often gets her in trouble.

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    I remembered right, Kay-la is MAN-AT-Arms Niece but which ones?

    Recently we learnt that Man-At-Arms is not a person but a title, iīm pretty sure back when HE-RO was invented she should have been Duncans niece but now itīs more likely that she is Clamp Champs or even Sir Lazer Lots niece since he is the Man-At-Arms in that time even though she is fair skinned and has white hair, sounds more like Faceless One or Evil-Lyn to me but hey....

    Thatīs why i donīt like messing with timelines it all gets confusing!

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    I would love if dare & the son of keldor become apart of the motu story & are released as figures.
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    I always love to extract new characters from existing media and this is a good way of doing it, But I feel a few characters shouldnt be included. If they were to make any of these characters, I only want the ones that add new characters to the whole story ark, so

    DARE (use teenage buck) wth CRAVEN
    HE-RO (SON OF HE-MAN)
    KAY-LA- I like her design, reminds me of a big barda type character in MOTU
    AIR-BAG ( similar to a concept character from power and honor catalogue)-Yes inflator was his name, cool power, a welcomed addtion to good
    FORKLIFT- like his design as well, powers are ok but i like the originality
    Are all good designs and wouldnt mind seeing them down the line(later years)

    EVIL WARRIORS

    MISSILE-TOE-orignal character, like it
    EVER-MEAN- even though he he does look different then evil seed, they have the same powers i feel there is no need to make him
    BUG-EYE-I like this character alot, Now they would have merman, fangman, beastman,all controling thousands of beasts against good
    SLOB-BOAR- Could be a grown up version of Pig boy from the 1987 movie
    SAW-TOOTH (no visual representation)- This character sounds very much like like trap jaw, dont uderstand why they would create someone like him, so I think I would pass on him

    Evermean and sawtooth are too close to orginal characters, and offer nothing new to the evil warriors that I feel like we would be getting inferior varients to both evilseed and trapjaw, unless something was drastically changed in their descriptions, I dont think they deserve to be figures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niki View Post
    I remembered right, Kay-la is MAN-AT-Arms Niece but which ones?

    Recently we learnt that Man-At-Arms is not a person but a title, iīm pretty sure back when HE-RO was invented she should have been Duncans niece but now itīs more likely that she is Clamp Champs or even Sir Lazer Lots niece since he is the Man-At-Arms in that time even though she is fair skinned and has white hair, sounds more like Faceless One or Evil-Lyn to me but hey....

    Thatīs why i donīt like messing with timelines it all gets confusing!
    That's my thinking also, Kay-La should be Clamp Champ's niece or daughter(Mother Entrapa who switched sides after the War only to go back to a new Horde under Catra)

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    son of keldor??

    was there a son planned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayk View Post
    son of keldor??

    was there a son planned?
    Not at the time of the Lou Scheimer "Son of He-Man" pitch and Bible, but "Skeleteen" (the son of Skeletor!) has been a thing (really, more a PROPOSED thing) since the early planning stages of the "New Adventures" He-Man Re-Boot in the late '90s!

    These days, in the Masters of The Universe Classics canon, Skeleteen has a full, working backstory. His real name is Deon, and he is the product of the union between deposed Prince Keldor and Evil-Lyn, who were secretly married before that fateful confrontation between Keldor and that poorly-placed vial of acid. Shortly after his birth, Evil-Lyn sent her son to the future, (her father had done something similar to her when she was an infant) to protect the boy from what his father had become! This time-displacement helps to explain how someone who was born many years before Prince Adam could be the contemporary of Adam's son, Dare!

    Depending on whom You ask, Deon is a legitimate heir to the Throne of Eternia, should all takers from Randor's side of the family be-- unavailable. He's really quite cool, I'd love him to get a Masters Classics figure!

    Skeleteen!.jpg

    I just noticed that I stated the "New Adventures" re-launch of He-Man happened in the late '90s. I should have said the late '80s. My bad. :^)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake_Man View Post
    Not at the time of the Lou Scheimer "Son of He-Man" pitch and Bible, but "Skeleteen" (the son of Skeletor!) has been a thing (really, more a PROPOSED thing) since the early planning stages of the "New Adventures" He-Man Re-Boot in the late '90s!

    These days, in the Masters of The Universe Classics canon, Skeleteen has a full, working backstory. His real name is Deon, and he is the product of the union between deposed Prince Keldor and Evil-Lyn, who were secretly married before that fateful confrontation between Keldor and that poorly-placed vial of acid. Shortly after his birth, Evil-Lyn sent her son to the future, (her father had done something similar to her when she was an infant) to protect the boy from what his father had become! This time-displacement helps to explain how someone who was born many years before Prince Adam could be the contemporary of Adam's son, Dare!

    Depending on whom You ask, Deon is a legitimate heir to the Throne of Eternia, should all takers from Randor's side of the family be-- unavailable. He's really quite cool, I'd love him to get a Masters Classics figure!

    Skeleteen!.jpg
    I hope we'll get to see more of Deon/Skeleteen at some point. There's an interesting backstory I'd like to know more about. BTW The FourHorsemen would make an awesome figure of him!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake_Man View Post
    Not at the time of the Lou Scheimer "Son of He-Man" pitch and Bible, but "Skeleteen" (the son of Skeletor!) has been a thing (really, more a PROPOSED thing) since the early planning stages of the "New Adventures" He-Man Re-Boot in the late '90s!

    These days, in the Masters of The Universe Classics canon, Skeleteen has a full, working backstory. His real name is Deon, and he is the product of the union between deposed Prince Keldor and Evil-Lyn, who were secretly married before that fateful confrontation between Keldor and that poorly-placed vial of acid. Shortly after his birth, Evil-Lyn sent her son to the future, (her father had done something similar to her when she was an infant) to protect the boy from what his father had become! This time-displacement helps to explain how someone who was born many years before Prince Adam could be the contemporary of Adam's son, Dare!

    Depending on whom You ask, Deon is a legitimate heir to the Throne of Eternia, should all takers from Randor's side of the family be-- unavailable. He's really quite cool, I'd love him to get a Masters Classics figure!

    Skeleteen!.jpg
    thank you soooo much for this. great info


    but even with his skull face he could have get evillyn pregnant. or not?

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    wait...keldors son has a skeletton face too ?
    why that ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayk View Post
    thank you soooo much for this. great info


    but even with his skull face he could have get evillyn pregnant. or not?

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    wait...keldors son has a skeletton face too ?
    why that ??
    This all happened before Keldor became Skeletor (Deon, that is [^D).

    And Deon wears a Skull mask, to honor his father. Underneath he looks a lot like Keldor!
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    great idea :-)

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    Most of the characters designed for this era do not appeal me (villains are too monstrous and heroes are too bland), but Skeleteen is a must, and I support this era as a necessary evolution for the MOTU timeline.

    If new designs with same spirit as original characters are brought to this era, I would be happy collecting them. For example, I would be delighted with some new Cosmic Enforcers to join Strobos in Eternia, also it would be interesting to know descendants from Stratos, or the ones from Clamp-Champ/Flutterina. Is there a new council of different leaders of Eternia (much like Randor had Chooblah, Dactys, Carnivus and Ceratus to his side, those new council members would be interesting)?
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    I'm super in love with the future of He-Man. Son Of, to be exact. I'd love to take a step forward and continue the story.

    I'm very happy with how Skeleteen has developed and would love to see more. Frankly I can see the argument that he really is the true heir, should Skeletor be dead. Frankly, personally, I'd love to see both branches of the Royal House reconciled and the sons stand united against a greater threat.

    After getting to see the He-Ro vs Skeleteen story awhile, would it not be cool to see Deon and Dare stand as Cousins, the new "Twins of Power" sort to speak, and have Keldor be redeemed by his son? Gar & Human fighting side by side against an entirely new megathreat? I'd love it.

    But for now, I am ready for some kind of Son Of He Man media. Or more accurately, more.

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    love all


    is there more fanart or anything like this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baronterror View Post
    I'm super in love with the future of He-Man. Son Of, to be exact. I'd love to take a step forward and continue the story.

    I'm very happy with how Skeleteen has developed and would love to see more. Frankly I can see the argument that he really is the true heir, should Skeletor be dead. Frankly, personally, I'd love to see both branches of the Royal House reconciled and the sons stand united against a greater threat.

    After getting to see the He-Ro vs Skeleteen story awhile, would it not be cool to see Deon and Dare stand as Cousins, the new "Twins of Power" sort to speak, and have Keldor be redeemed by his son? Gar & Human fighting side by side against an entirely new megathreat? I'd love it.

    But for now, I am ready for some kind of Son Of He Man media. Or more accurately, more.
    I think it would quite interesting to have Deon making peace with Dare. I also the idea of a greater threat to fight against!
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