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    Answers to WTFWTK 2.130!

    Mattel has once again provided answers to your questions.
    Thanks again to them for taking the time to answer these!
    Check out their answers to your Round 130 questions!

    This round of questions were selected by sirsniffy.
    Thanks to that fan for their help!

    1. Jest-or: Since the development cycle takes 18 months or more, is there already a plan on the table to unveil something new at a future SDCC Mattypalooza panel for possible 2016 MOTUC release?

    2016 is being reviewed over the next few weeks/months. With the 2015 sub just barely squeaking by, we simply cannot comment on 2016 at this time. But we are starting to look over possibilities.

    2. Haephestus: With the emphasis on completing the vintage, non-variant PoP action figures (as opposed to beasts) in 2015, is there still a chance that Storm or Clawdeen will be released in 2015, especially since they would be able to utilize existing bucks/tools?

    Always a chance. We will just have to wait and see if they made the cut or not!

    3. No-Ah: I wanted to ask about the possibility of seeing 2.0 versions of defective MOTUC figures. Roboto, Green Goddess, and Snout Spout in particular seem to be disintegrating just a few years after being sold. If the line continues into 2016 or even 2017, would you consider it a priority to create new versions of these three problematic figures?

    We would definitely consider exploring 2.0 versions of older characters should there be 2016 line. But at this point it is way to early to comment with 2015 just barely making it as is.

    4. InspectorZartan: Presuming we get similar product in 2016, some fans are not interested in rebranding (like a "Signature" type line) and instead want the same packaging and continuation of the Classics name and story. To who do we direct our preferences about this issue?

    At this point it is way to early to comment on anything for 2016, but without a doubt if there is a 6" line we will go with a new package look and brand name. We understand not every fan wants this, but that is one factor we have already legally promoted and will follow through on.

    5. Bonehead: If there is no 2016 line, will the bios be released that were written for characters we never got?

    Potentially but no plans at this time. Essentially 2016 is way to far off and 2015 just barely made it, so it is extremely early to comment on anything beyond 2015 at this time.

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    Well, ToyGuru was able to use just the One answer for all of this batch's questions. Is that a form of Parts Re-Use? LoL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake_Man View Post
    Well, ToyGuru was able to use just the One answer for all of this batch's questions. Is that a form of Parts Re-Use? LoL
    With 2015 barely squeaking by it's just too early to comment on this question about parts reuse on our question at this time. Thank you come again!

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    I hope we don't have to hear how "2015 just barely squeaked by" all year long.

    It made it. We made it. We made it by what, an extra 10%? So **** already.

    I didn't even want to sub. I subbed so we would all get what we wanted and so that we could close out an awesome line.

    You don't tell a guy that finished first that he almost came in 2nd or 3rd .. for a full year. He knows what the other possible outcomes were, but he won.

    Beat another horse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by He-Dad View Post
    With 2015 barely squeaking by it's just too early to comment on this question at this time. Thank you come again!
    Agree.

    Why doesn't he just not answer those questions?

    Instead of "Answers to WTFWTK" .. it should be called "Almost Answers to WTFWTK" ..
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    I couldn't care less about the packaging as long as the 2016 figures are still compatible with the classics we have.

    Luckily my Roboto, Green Goddess and Snout Spout are all perfectly fine still.

    I can understand him saying about how this years sub only just squeaked by. That's obviously going to be a factor in what happens with 2016 so if any questions are asked about it, it makes sense he would reference that. That's just how it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramaman View Post
    It made it. We made it. We made it by what, an extra 10%? So **** already.
    It wasn't 10%. It was .09%. Big difference, and much more of a "barely squeaking by" than 10% would be considered.
    2015 MOTUC Line is ON! (Now make Tuskador PLEASE)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wayne-klops View Post
    It wasn't 10%. It was .09%. Big difference, and much more of a "barely squeaking by" than 10% would be considered.
    Well you say Tomatoe and i say Tomate(literally). In the end and even in two different languages itīs the same thing. We did it. It went trough no matter how close or not.

    And yes the answers are not really ground breaking…
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    Quote Originally Posted by ramaman View Post
    I hope we don't have to hear how "2015 just barely squeaked by" all year long.
    We're going to hear it not only all 2015-long, but also the last few months of '14, too
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    Yea, better questions are needed concerning 2015. There is no way they would have 2016 as a guarantee... that is so obvious. So all those questions asked all had the same answer.
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    I think the lawyers answered those questions, because I could detect no trace of an answer. I love how classics brings back childhood memories. This set of "answers" reminded me of all the times my mom answered my questions with those frustrating words "we will see"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niki View Post
    Well you say Tomatoe and i say Tomate(literally). In the end and even in two different languages itīs the same thing. We did it. It went trough no matter how close or not.

    And yes the answers are not really ground breaking…

    Yes, we did make it either way. But are you really trying to say that .09 and 10 are basically the same thing??? Yes, it's going to be annoying to hear that "2015 barely scaped by" over and over again, as I'm sure we will hear, but the truth is if we had really reached 110%, we wouldn't hear the barely made it line. We should just be a bit more realistic in our expectations on a lot of out of sub items and the potential for 2016. Though, if DC is any indication, we'll probably get at least some type of wrap up in 2016, even if it's just a bunch of 2.0s.
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    .10 or 10% -- I don't care. We made it.

    And Classics ends in 2015 -- so there's nothing left for me to think about.

    2016 is up to them. If they have something up their sleeve then let them do what businesses do and market it properly and roll it out accordingly.

    If they fly 2016 at us with a lacklustre lineup then it's their fault.

    I guess my point is, in my business if a product doesn't sell we don't all sit in a board room and complain about how the customers didn't get it. We look one another in the eye and accept that either we over-estimated how great the product is/was or we didn't do our job in reaching the market.

    After years and years I'm just tired of being made to feel like we the fans are the failures in this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyDell View Post
    Yea, better questions are needed concerning 2015. There is no way they would have 2016 as a guarantee... that is so obvious. So all those questions asked all had the same answer.
    Indeed. Though, I felt the answer to No-Ah's question at least had some sort of positive answer, Haephastus' question too. They'll consider 2.0s, and Clawdeen and Storm aren't completely off the table.

    He at least said that 2016 is being looked over, so that's hopeful too!

    It just seemed he was being asked a lot of stuff that he just doesn't know yet.
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    Well, that was a very interesting set of Answers this round.

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    Interesting, a slew of 2016 loaded questions this time. We aren't even into the first figure for 2015 and fans are already clamoring for info on 2016. And for those who will immediately start in on, but Scott said wahoo we made 2015 happen and it's all about we the fans, and then they say we "barely made it"-- it's absolutely true, 2015 did barely make it. Which is why all of this 2016 talk is somewhat confusing. People act like the line still has explosive support, but the dwindling numbers speak for themselves. In other words, let's focus on what's in front of us before we start getting worked up over 2016. Mattel needs to decide 1) based on dwindling support is the line even worth pursuing further in any form, 2) what scale should the figures be in if any are to be made, 3) how much of the 'risk' is Mattel willing to absorb in putting out a 2016 MOTU line outside of a sub, when it will be next to impossible to guarantee 100% sell-in for a sub that will consist of a new direction.
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    This should be called "What The Fans Wish They Knew", because they rarely get an actual answer, or at least one that doesn't contradict previous answers.

    2016 is being reviewed over the next few weeks/months. With the 2015 sub just barely squeaking by, we simply cannot comment on 2016 at this time. But we are starting to look over possibilities.
    The new slogan at Matty is "With the 2015 sub just barely squeaking by...". But, wasn't the initial selling point that they were only producing a specific number of subscriptions, and once those were sold, that's it? Why, yes...yes it was, King Tamusk.

    Quote taken from Mattycollector.com, the 6/27/14 news update:
    This year subscriptions are limited to a set number, and once we hit that amount, that’s it… no more subscriptions will be sold. Kowl™, MOTUC’s Know-It Owl™ is helping us track the progress as we near the quota limit. We’ll be updating the Kowlometer twice a week, until the subscription quota is met or 8/18, whichever comes first
    So, a 100% full Kowlometer would represent the subscription quota limit is met. That being said, wouldn't hitting 100% mean you sold every sub you intended to sell and nothing is left? How exactly is that, "barely squeaking by"? According to Toyguru, we hit 100.09%. The Kowlometer would have been beyond 100% quota limit with that additional .09%. How is THAT possible? 100% of a subscription quota limit sold means 0% is left, right? Not even .09%.

    Regardless, 100% of the quota limit sold. That is not barely squeaking by, that is selling everything they intended to, plus .09%. That is, if you even believe those numbers. During the time of this sale, there was no talk about meeting a minimum requirement in order for 2015 to go through. The emphasis was that the subs had a quota limit. It wasn't until AFTER the reveals that the story changed. Then, the quota limit was no longer mentioned...ever. It was all back to "We need to hit the minimum or 2015 isn't gonna happen". And the the week extension, to sell 10% more subs, even though the customers had no idea how many subs that meant and were never told. But the emphasis was, Just keep buying!

    So, now we will hear over and over how 2015 barely made it. It will be held over the customers heads, when they were the ones that did all the work and Mattel/Toyguru sat and watched and collected money. And it will be used again to justify another unnecessary price increase and used to scare more subscription sales for the next add-on and 2016 subscription.

    Essentially 2016 is way to far off and 2015 just barely made it, so it is extremely early to comment on anything beyond 2015 at this time.
    But, hey, wait...isn't NOW the best time to be asking these questions. Toyguru said it can take anywhere from 12-24 months to make changes in their production. If customers can't make suggestions now because it is too early, and we can't make them later because it is too late, then when exactly are they supposed to make requests/suggestions?

    Unless, that is all bologna to avoid having to deal with customer requests/suggestions. Yeah, that sounds a lot more plausible, actually. With this set up, they can basically do whatever they want and it always is the customer's fault for not bringing issues to their attention at the appropriate time.
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    I was ranting to my wife on the flight home from Chicago tonight about the whole thing. From the end of the line to these "answered" questions.
    She looked at me like I was nuts. We usually go with the "don't ask don't tell" philosophy when it comes to my collecting.
    Putting this in terms of a race, yeah we barely won, we squeaked by. By how much and how it had to happen shouldn't matter. It happened.
    We're they not going to cap the number of subs?
    So we could only win by so much anyhow.

    Also please no clawdeen, I do not need three pretty pink lions.
    Wait 'til the wife sees them.
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    We were told 2015 would be the final year of Classics.
    And so it shall be.
    If 2016 is rebranded but compatible with Classics then I will buy it. If it isn't I may not.
    The point is we already know Classics is finishing. Anything we get after 2015 will not be Classics, regardless of buck re-use, or scale and aesthetic compatibility. Essentially it would be a new line of toys.

    I hope it's compatible with classics, because that would be awesome, and I'd give Matty more of my money to continue collecting. I feel bad for MOC collectors or those that want uniformity in packaging, but if you think about it, everything we'll ever get in "Classics" will be branded as such.
    Any pseudo-classics line after that, won't be Classics, no matter how Classics-like it turns out.

    I say we should enjoy the rest of 2014, and 2015, and bask in the glory that 'was' Classics when we get to January 2016.

    I'm not surprised by any of these answers to be honest. It is too early I think to be asking too much about 2016, because obviously Mattel is still considering this, and more than likely considering it with a more conservative mindset than previously, due to 2015 'Squeaking' by. Unlike trying to illicit hints about the surprises left in 2015, I don't think Mattel have enough information to give us about 2016 at this point, simply because they have not decided what (if anything) to offer us.

    I was pleased to read there is potential to release bios for unproduced characters (presumably from the original road map), as these would be great to read if a follow up to classics doesn't move forward.

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    It doesn't surprise me that no 2016 questions were answered. We literally know most of the figures we are getting for 2015 so there needs to be some surprising reveals for the future.

    Also if the sub really did barely pass then there may be some new discussion regarding the 2016 plans.
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    I'm not a fan of the re-branding. We will have 120+ figures on green MOTUC cards/boxes and maybe 6-12 figures before the line dies for good that will be released in the new style packaging. Their argument was that "vintage" was finished after 2015, but this is not even true as we are still missing lots of vintage vehicles, beasts and playsets. If they release those, they will also be in the new style packaging.
    In the end, we MOC/MIB collectors will have a very unbalanced and inconsistent looking collection, 90% of which will have one packaging style, 10% the new style.
    The absurdity of it becomes clear when you consider the following examples:
    • Shokoti: old packaging; Lord Masque: new packaging
    • Stridor: old packagin; Night Stalker: new packaging (presuming one comes in 2015 and the other in 2016)


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    Quote Originally Posted by wayne-klops View Post
    Yes, we did make it either way. But are you really trying to say that .09 and 10 are basically the same thing??? Yes, it's going to be annoying to hear that "2015 barely scaped by" over and over again, as I'm sure we will hear, but the truth is if we had really reached 110%, we wouldn't hear the barely made it line. We should just be a bit more realistic in our expectations on a lot of out of sub items and the potential for 2016. Though, if DC is any indication, we'll probably get at least some type of wrap up in 2016, even if it's just a bunch of 2.0s.
    Sorry, what i meant wasnīt .09 and ,10 are the same they clearly aren't and 9 percent is a difference thatīs not to be ignored but everything above 100% is above 100% so why stick it in?

    Thatīs what i meant and iīm refusing to talk about the rumored 200X sub and which character could be involved in it or other potential out of the sub characters before itīs not clear we get to them. I donīt want to disappoint myself
    Iīm not interested in another He-Man variant but so far we know we will get at least three to four different versions of him this year but other characters like Tuskador, Darius or Masque are not included? For me thatīs not right but iīm in the minority here it seems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Tamusk View Post
    This should be called "What The Fans Wish They Knew", because they rarely get an actual answer, or at least one that doesn't contradict previous answers.
    IMO the questions are being sent to Mattel way too often. Maybe this was ok in the beginning of the line when there were many questions regarding the line / brand as such but after 6 years fans know the answers to basic questions themselves. This is one of the reasons that results in fans asking other types of questions and they are asking these questions faster than Mattel is able / is willing to provide the actual answer.

    Maybe it would be better to send let's say larger amount of questions quarterly. Or around the time when big events are happening. As we know this is also the time when Mattel is very talkative because they want to sell / promote / advertise. And this is also the time when podcasts are being recorded.

    Just an idea: The larger amount of questions can be then sorted into subgroups regarding various topics. IMO this will also create an impression for Mattel that our questions have more importance and we demand the answer and action to be taken to fix given issue.

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    So, am I correct in thinking discussing a 2016 sub is too early at the moment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by He-Kal View Post
    So, am I correct in thinking discussing a 2016 sub is too early at the moment?
    Well, what with 2015 just barely making it . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Tamusk View Post
    This should be called "What The Fans Wish They K

    But, hey, wait...isn't NOW the best time to be asking these questions. Toyguru said it can take anywhere from 12-24 months to make changes in their production. If customers can't make suggestions now because it is too early, and we can't make them later because it is too late, then when exactly are they supposed to make requests/suggestions?

    Unless, that is all bologna to avoid having to deal with customer requests/suggestions. Yeah, that sounds a lot more plausible, actually. With this set up, they can basically do whatever they want and it always is the customer's fault for not bringing issues to their attention at the appropriate time.
    Remember, production timelines are only meaningful when they can be used to put a spin on something. You know, like bulky armor, leotard design or black plastic. Gosh we are sorry NA Skeletor has bulky armor, but if you had only told us it was a issue in 2010 we could have done something about it.
    It is spelled "Crita", not "Critta". Misspell her name and Crita will knock the "T" out of you!

    Also...get her into the line!

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