TG Blog #12 He-Ro - Spell stones and not afraid to use em!

**Sabretooth** · April 11, 2012, 02:40pm

Originally Posted by Andredwt

... but He-ro is a part of the toy storie of Masters of the universe, and what toy guru did linking He-ro to the power Sword I think is perfect!!

Yes, I like what they did with the origin story of He-Man is very cool - He-Ro provides the sword and King Grayskull is Adam's ancestor.

Reading the vintage styleguide I noticed that He-Ro's full name is 'He-Ro of Grayskull'. Was is ever explained what 'Grayskull' actually is in the vintage line? Because there was no Castle Grayskull in Preternia - only the three towers, right? I would like to know why one of the towers name is 'Grayskull Tower'.

I vote for Eldor figure too. And make Gigantisaurus as well! If you do this huge thing I promise I will buy it - just for the sake of owning such a ridiculously big piece of plastic.

**NastyNate** · April 11, 2012, 03:22pm

Originally Posted by mekaneckpain

I can see that: TG did allude to himself pushing for prototype and concept figures to be more or less prioritized. King Grayskull, He-Ro, and now Eldor. Very possible. I think a 2 pack with Eldor and Gray with the book of living spells would be a nice package for regular sales though.

Yeah... its probably just false hope though. (BUT Eldor would make a great SDCC esclusive for this year)

**scott metzger** · April 11, 2012, 04:32pm

Originally Posted by MISSILE-TOE

He-Ro's alter-ego "Gray" figure on it's way perhaps? (as seen in the card art below)

(Perhaps in Preternia, He-Ro pretends to be King Grayskull's nephew "Gray" as his secret identity!

That was the first thing that crossed my mind. I've said elsewhere I doubted Gray would be coming in this line, but I failed to consider what TG has told us multiple times now: the main reason for the bios is to justify more figures to be made. Re-introduce Gray into the bios and you can make his figure (an easy task with little new tooling needed, as one poster pointed out in another thread).

I'm really glad I was apparently very wrong about Gray being ret-conned out of existence; I'd love a figure of him in the line.

As for Grayskull, according to the last minicomic, the castle was indeed there in the time He-Man visited; it was minty and in it's prime, far from the more run down, ancient look we are used to.

**Executioner** · April 11, 2012, 05:05pm

So if it is ok to simply call the "Sword of He" the "Power Sword" should we just translate Trollan into English from now on and start referring to "He-Man" as "Power-Man" instead? Or what about "He-Ro", can we just call him "Power-Ro" now?

**iron_pride** · April 11, 2012, 05:23pm

Great blog here. I really enjoy these a great deal.

**Executioner** · April 11, 2012, 05:25pm

Originally Posted by dorrmann

Actually, what I mean is this sentence (describing the red stone):

Since he said green was the highest produced, and purple was the least produced, that means that "green" and "purple" are transposed in this sentence.

So you are trying to say that he meant green is the rarest, and purple was the highest produced?

In fact there is no clarifty in his sentence at all. He said exactly this...

The red stone of defense would let He-Ro shoot red blasts at enemies. This was produced more than the green, but less than the purple. The very rare and least produced purple stone of healing would cast healing spells.

So to break it down:

Red more than Green, Red less than Purple, Purple the rarest. Huh??? What???

How can Purple be the rarest if there is less Red were produced? But wait, there is more Red produced than Green? So is Green the rarest then? But then he said Purple is the rarest and least produced? So which is it? Basically it could be any one of those three colors that is the most rare. He offers no clarity whatsoever.

And the guy wonders why fans get upset with him. He speaks in tongues for crying out.

**mekaneckpain** · April 11, 2012, 05:53pm

So, It really wasn't clarified which stone is the rarest except for the sentence...

"The very rare and least produced purple stone of healing would cast healing spells."

sigh! We really need to get TG a tutor for free writing and proof reading.

**Tallstar** · April 11, 2012, 06:42pm

Green. Red. Purple. Most common to least common.

My best guess on the issue.

**midor** · April 11, 2012, 07:04pm

This was interesting. Thanks. (no sarcasm)

I didn't own a vintage He-Ro. I don't own a He-Ro Classic. SDCC or otherwise. I want to own a He-ro Classic. do

**vertigoink** · April 11, 2012, 07:22pm

Originally Posted by Tallstar

Oh, they were definitely considered separate brands. What I meant, was that the team working on POP may have seen all the success that MOTU was having in 1985 and been kept in the loop with regard to the Powers of Grayskull extension line. Maybe the executives felt the urgency to have someone conceptualize an extension line for POP from the get-go, and it happened to coincide with the estimated life cycle of the doll line and release of POG. I'm not sure if it's standard practice to come up with an extension line for every doll line during the first year release of the main/parent line. Morever, Jon's original origin story has the Eternian ties. That's what gives me the impression there may have been some back and forth between the two teams... but then they hired the Disney writer and the direction changed.

Definitely seems likely Jim, yeah! Also you had me cracking up reading the Disney writer part lol.

Originally Posted by JonWes

It's funny you mention Gigantisaur, because I thought (IIRC) the Power & Honor book said the proto had been destroyed! I mean, I know they were just working with the facts they had at the time. But it's interesting to hear it's still floating out there somewhere.

Just like Eldor's card back, Eldor prototype, and several others at one time. The thing with a lot of private collectors is that they keep things PRIVATE for a vast amount of reasons- one of them being to avoid making themselves a bullseye for thieves or being bugged to no end by fans/companies.

**Tallstar** · April 11, 2012, 07:27pm

Originally Posted by vertigoink

Definitely seems likely Jim, yeah! Also you had me cracking up reading the Disney writer part lol.

It wasn't meant to be funny. Was just a tangent statement. But now that I'm reading it again, I can see how it could seem like I meant it in a negative way. That was not the intention.

**Executioner** · April 11, 2012, 07:52pm

Originally Posted by Tallstar

Green. Red. Purple. Most common to least common.

My best guess on the issue.

Well thats just the thing. TG writes something and we all have to GUESS. The guy is just not suitable for PR.

**mekaneckpain** · April 11, 2012, 08:19pm

Originally Posted by midor

This was interesting. Thanks. (no sarcasm)

I didn't own a vintage He-Ro. I don't own a He-Ro Classic. SDCC or otherwise. I want to own a He-ro Classic. do

I didn't own a vintage He-Ro either.

**He-Boy** · April 11, 2012, 08:27pm

Although we won't get actual numbers, I would love to know the percentage split amongst the three stones (i.e. green 50%, red 30%, purple 20% ???).

He-Ro was my first figure and was the character that sealed the deal on my MOTUC obsession. And up until then I didn't even really care for him. I though he looked awesome. I just wish he had a softer cape.

I know I'm in the minority, but I don't care for Eldor at all. Compared to all of the other characters we've seen in the MOTUverse that play a similar role he is very generic and boring. And I find it creepy to see such an old man with the same body as He-Man. He looks like a homeless Santa to me. If we end up getting Eldor, I would like to see changes made to give him something unique to his look.

**Count Judas** · April 11, 2012, 08:54pm

Its only been a few months since I've heard about Gray and Eldor but it would be great to have them in the line here. Hunter Knight made an awesome looking custom Eldor and if he's ever done, it'd be great to have hime with a look similiar to HK. Perhaps Eldor or Gray will be more in the lines of the sub exclusive, idk how popular they are in the "want list" but it's be great to have them both.

**mekaneckpain** · April 11, 2012, 09:04pm

I think any character that appeared on a vintage card back, comic book, Filmation Cartoon, etc. should be made. And that goes for any vintage prototype or conceptual design from that era.

**vertigoink** · April 11, 2012, 10:47pm

Originally Posted by mekaneckpain

I think any character that appeared on a vintage card back, comic book, Filmation Cartoon, etc. should be made. And that goes for any vintage prototype or conceptual design from that era.

+1 x345363465

**kamen_kahlil01** · April 11, 2012, 11:11pm

Gigantisaurus.jpg

I was browsing the web and is this the "mythical" Gigantisaurus, that was supposed to be part of the Powers of Grayskull line?

**JonWes** · April 11, 2012, 11:18pm

Indeed, that is it. That catalog pic is all (most) of us have ever seen of it.

**Swifty** · April 11, 2012, 11:32pm

He called the green stone the "Stone of Protection." Is this just a coincidence or is it supposed to be the same stone that was merged with the cloned Sword of He to make the "Sword of Protection?"

**kamen_kahlil01** · April 11, 2012, 11:40pm

Ah, thanks JonWes! It's a huge playset/vehicle, if it ever gets produced

**phantom1592** · April 11, 2012, 11:46pm

Originally Posted by Swifty

He called the green stone the "Stone of Protection." Is this just a coincidence or is it supposed to be the same stone that was merged with the cloned Sword of He to make the "Sword of Protection?"

That was the going theory when he was announced.... It would have been Awesome to do it that way... Grayskull is He-man's ancestor, and He-ro is essentially She-ra's

However, Both She-ra AND He-ro's bios have come and gone with no mention... soooo probably not.

Such a missed opportunity

**urbanmyth** · April 12, 2012, 12:08am

Originally Posted by kamen_kahlil01

Ah, thanks JonWes! It's a huge playset/vehicle, if it ever gets produced

Granamyr buck

**Executioner** · April 12, 2012, 12:09am

I love how he credits himself for coining the term "spell stones". Yeah, TG you thought of it first... ever do a Google search?

**urbanmyth** · April 12, 2012, 12:17am

Originally Posted by Executioner

I love how he credits himself for coining the term "spell stones". Yeah, TG you thought of it first... ever do a Google search?

"Google search"? That is kind of catchy, did you just make that up?

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