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    He-Man's costume: why barbaric?

    I was pondering the fact She-Ra got a very "royal" costume straight from the power of her sword, it's about regalia as visual symbol of moral strength and inner nobilty.
    I don't know who or what "criterium" shaped that costume for her... Sorceress? Or one of the (many) mysteries of Grayskull Castle...

    But now, speaking about He-Man, why is his costume so "barbaric" looking and so elementary if he is supposed to get his power from the "noble" essence of Grayskull or so?

    My theory is that both the swords "tap" into the specific worlds they are operating in, so the costumes are "in tune" with the fashion used in those respective worlds...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanquest View Post
    My theory is that both the swords "tap" into the specific worlds they are operating in, so the costumes are "in tune" with the fashion used in those respective worlds...
    Most likely that. After all, She-Ra's power was channeled through Crystal castle.

    Or perhaps her sword was newer? That could be used to explain NA He-Man's modern looking appearance.
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    What if they made their own outfits?

    What if magic had little to do with their clothes?

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    The costume of He-Man is fashioned after the historic Germanic tribesmen and the costume of She-Ra is fashioned after the mythic Valkyries, Norse (also Germanic) warrior maidens who ride winged horses.

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    He-Man was designed that way, cause it was supposed to demonstrate how strong and fearless he is. He does not need "real" Armor! He jumps into a fight almost naked!
    Thats more or less what Mark Taylor said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam_Prince of Eternia View Post
    The costume of He-Man is fashioned after the historic Germanic tribesmen and the costume of She-Ra is fashioned after the mythic Valkyries, Norse (also Germanic) warrior maidens who ride winged horses.
    Sorry, I mean IN-FICTION/IN-UNIVERSE.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eternian-King Paul View Post
    What if they made their own outfits?

    What if magic had little to do with their clothes?
    Not quite, Adora converted into She-Ra the very first time when she barely knew what the Sword of Protection was capable of.
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    Sometimes less is more. Even basic He-Man has not much armor and clothes. His look what makes people think and know that he is very strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jyrki View Post
    Sometimes less is more. Even basic He-Man has not much armor and clothes. His look what makes people think and know that he is very strong.
    That's true.
    Maybe She-Ra's costume had been heavily influenced by the Crystal Castle and the Etherian fashion itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam_Prince of Eternia View Post
    The costume of He-Man is fashioned after the historic Germanic tribesmen and the costume of She-Ra is fashioned after the mythic Valkyries, Norse (also Germanic) warrior maidens who ride winged horses.
    So Germans live on Eternia. Great attempt though. Seems almost realistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlcan View Post
    So Germans live on Eternia. Great attempt though. Seems almost realistic.
    Until he clarified the question, Vanquest seemed to be asking why the costume of He-Man is barbaric and the costume of She-Ra is elegant when they share the same power source. I answered that while their costumes are different, both are fashioned after the clothing of historic and mythic Germanic peoples. The appearance of She-Ra was designed to compliment He-Man. Since his appearance is fashioned after a Germanic tribesman, hers is fashioned after a Germanic warrior maiden. That is the only "real" answer to the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam_Prince of Eternia View Post
    Until he clarified the question, Vanquest seemed to be asking why the costume of He-Man is barbaric and the costume of She-Ra is elegant when they share the same power source. I answered that while their costumes are different, both are fashioned after the clothing of historic and mythic Germanic peoples. The appearance of She-Ra was designed to compliment He-Man. Since his appearance is fashioned after a Germanic tribesman, hers is fashioned after a Germanic warrior maiden. That is the only "real" answer to the question.
    Adam,

    Great insight, but I was talking IN-fiction. Just wondering why the swords shaped two different costumes in terms of fashion, style and function.
    Is ANY He-Man supposed to look that way?
    Is ANY She-Ra supposed to look that way?
    What if Adam passes the Power Sword to someone else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanquest View Post
    Adam,

    Great insight, but I was talking IN-fiction. Just wondering why the swords shaped two different costumes in terms of fashion, style and function.
    Is ANY He-Man supposed to look that way?
    Is ANY She-Ra supposed to look that way?
    What if Adam passes the Power Sword to someone else?
    Then this would happen:

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    Nice costume...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimPansen View Post
    He-Man was designed that way, cause it was supposed to demonstrate how strong and fearless he is. He does not need "real" Armor! He jumps into a fight almost naked!
    Thats more or less what Mark Taylor said.
    True enough; It also reflects the original early mythos, of He-Man was a wandering barbarian on a world left in the wake of a Great War (oh how I long for a full return to that mythos). It was just design requirements for him at the time.

    "In fiction", its up to anyone to make up their own backstory, like so much of the original line
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    The costume of He-Man is fashioned after the historic Germanic tribesmen and the costume of She-Ra is fashioned after the mythic Valkyries, Norse (also Germanic) warrior maidens who ride winged horses.
    Except that historic Germanic tribesman did not wear furry underpants and metal power harnesses, and the fictional Valkyries were most often depicted in mail or naked, rather than in the MUCH more modern white skirt/tiara ensemble. So even as a 'real' explanation, this doesn't really work.


    As an in-universe explanation; I dunno. If I had to work it out in my head, I'd probably explain it as coming from the mind of the wielder. Perhaps Adora sees white and gold and wings as symbols of goodness, truth, and freedom - thus the colours and style of her costume as She-Ra. Likewise, maybe Adam views the mostly-naked Barbarian as the symbol of heroism and strength. The sword, in either case, is simply responding to how the hero would see themselves. Or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnightDamien View Post
    Except that historic Germanic tribesman did not wear furry underpants and metal power harnesses, and the fictional Valkyries were most often depicted in mail or naked, rather than in the MUCH more modern white skirt/tiara ensemble. So even as a 'real' explanation, this doesn't really work.
    The first records of the Germanic people are provided by the Romans from as early as 100 BCE. (Even though the Celts and the Gauls had settled in Europe nearly 600 years earlier, they had a much less developed culture than the Romans.) In the beginning of the Fourth Century CE, the Goths and the Huns began invading territories established by the Romans in Northern Europe. It is from the descriptions provided by the Romans from which our understanding of their clothing comes. (The Germanic people, whom the Romans referred to as “Barbarians,” left no writings, paintings, or sculptures, nor did they practice burial rituals that preserved their garments, so none of their clothing survived.) The Romans described their clothing as crude fragments of fur loosely tied and stitched together with bands of hide and animal skin. So yes, the costume of He-Man is fashioned after the historic Germanic tribesmen.

    Moreover, the first depictions of Valkyries are in Viking jewelry and runes from as early as the Eighth Century CE. Each is depicted as a woman, wearing a gown, her hair pulled back, sometimes riding a horse. So yes, the costume of She-Ra is fashioned after the mythic Valkyries.

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