The Avengers Movie Talkback Thread - SPOILERS

[gbagok]

Yes, it was called The Consultant and it was on the Thor DVD.

That's pretty awesome. It might have been a retcon or the original plan, but it's still nice and tight. Why don't I remember seeing that? I'm sure I did, I must have gotten caught up in the possibility of Abomination returning. Dang though, this makes me

 

miss Gregg's Coulson more.

[JonWes]

Got back from seeing it this morning. I went to the first showing of the day and it was nearly packed! Apparently the movie did about 80.5m on Friday and could break Harry Potter's record for the biggest weekend! Crazy!

I really loved every second of this movie. It really was the perfect marriage of casting, writing and directing. And man, the special effects were great. This was definitely the best Hulk has ever been CGI-wise (and hats off to Ruaffalo for finally making Banner interesting!) and Loki's army looked great too. I agree they were pretty easy cannon-fodder, but that's okay.

I loved that everyone got a little moment to shine. I think Black Widow, Hulk and (of course) Iron Man were probably the best served. Thor was really good, as always. Hemsworth would have been a great He-man if he wasn't already engaged. He looks great, he does the anger bits well but also is great at the softer and more comedic moments. I thought Cap was really well handled, but I feel like they held him back a little because they plan to develop his "man out of time" angle more in his next movie. I think he really emerged as a good leader and I believed him as that. I just thought he got less "cool" moments. But he was great in action. Hawekeye really did get the least to do. But we also don't know him that well. Renner was great as Hawkeye. But I do wish we'd get a Black Widow/Hawkeye movie to flesh those two out more. I'm so glad they built up BW more here and stuck to the comics. It was unclear how they'd go with her based on her Iron Man 2 appearance.

My only complaint was Maria Hill. She was fine, but I would have liked her to be more of the hard nosed you-know-what she is in the comics. That's what is so great about her character. The character could just as easily have been Sharon Carter, but maybe they're saving her for a Cap sequel.

 

The death of a fan favorite was sad, but such a great story-telling device that really gave the team someone to avenge. The glimpse of Thanos at the end was AMAZING. I just can't wait to see where this all leads...

[MOTU_Maniac]

All I can say is AWESOME!!! My wife and I both loved it!!

[Nekk-ra]

An excellent movie from start to finish. Everyone got their moments to shine, and Mr. Whedon proves without doubt he can rock an ensemble piece.

[MOTU_Maniac]

OMG I LOVED IT!!!!!!!!!

Hulk stole the whole show. Best Banner ever!

I agree! Best ever!!

[Mighty Puundragon]

Yes, it was called The Consultant and it was on the Thor DVD.

There was an even better one at the end of Captain America "Something happened on the way to Thor's Hammer". If you have not seen it already, see it now. Agent Colson was my favorite.

We saw this in IMAX 3-D this afternoon, GREATEST MOVIE EVER. I love both the Credit Surprises but the first one made me say "Uh Oh that is not gonna be good."

[Nemisythe]

So, I'm guessing there was no resolution to (or mention of) the ending of The Incredible Hulk?

Actually if you listen to the conversation Ruffalo has with the Natasha when they first meet he actually mentions the deleted scene (on the Hulk DVD) that kinda links his whereabouts after the end of the Norton film...


On another note I posted in a past thread about the characters (Thor & Cap specifically) not wearing their mask through most of the movie, but you know what/ I was proven wrong cause IT WORKED! Thor, considering the number of times he brawled; how annoying it would've been to keep putting that helmet on? As for Cap, he wore it WHEN NECESSARY! I was kinda uptight but watching the movie I think Whedon crafted this for both fans and Evans where the balance and moments were PERFECT! KUDOS!!

[Blue Jester]

So why was the Hulk so "in control" in the final battle? Wasn't it the point that Banner's completely out of control when he's the Hulk? On the carrier he almost killed Black Widow but later he only (hilariously) punches Thor and doesn't take complicated instructions? Can anyone help me with that?

People have been debating that. My thoughts--and some others--are that Loki was somehow messing with people's minds in the helicarrier, which is why they showed a panning overhead shot of the spear. I think the punch to Thor was just for comedic effect or some rivalry nod as th Hulk clearly wasn't going to fight him ie. throwaway punch.


I took away the spoiler tags since the thread title says SPOLIERS



Now I can't watch Coulson in the others movies the same way again

[gbagok]

People have been debating that. My thoughts--and some others--are that Loki was somehow messing with people's minds in the helicarrier, which is why they showed a panning overhead shot of the spear.

Wasn't the spear itself causing them all the squabble like the One Ring? I kept waiting for them to notice it was affecting them but they never did point that out. I forget what happened to it at the end, if Thor took it with him or not. It seems like it should be important since the Big Bad gave it to Loki in the first place. I know I'm a broken record, but I hope if it's gone to Asgard that the Enchantress is the one to get a hold of it next.

[Dragon78]

Awesome movie, just saw it not to long ago.

[SCB]

Can't decide if I should see this or Troll 2.

[Beastman83]

The Avengers is hands down my favorite superhero movie, and now one of my fav all time movies. I loved every minute of it.

As far as the question of 'Why would SHIELD send Stark to talk to Ross about building up a team? It wasn't to enlist Banner, they didn't need Ross for that.'? Well Black Widow told Bruce Banner that they had an eye on him all these years and 'even kept other agencies off his back'. Maybe not in those exact words, but basically.

[hhhelmsley]

I love this movie!!!! One of my favorite movies, period.

[gummi]

Every time I think that the best superhero movie has been made, another one comes along and tops it. I'm happy to say that The Avengers was no different. I left the theater feeling like a kid, with a grin on my face from ear to ear. All the actors were fantastic as usual, and Mark Ruffalo was the perfect choice to play Bruce Banner. Hulk definitely stole the show in this one. The whole theater was laughing so loud at the scene with Loki that I couldn't even hear what Hulk said after issuing the beat down. I had to go online when I got home to find out. Hillarious! With The Avengers, The Dark Knight Rises in a few months, and The Hobbit in December, I'm going to be in geek heaven for most of 2012.

[BlueStreak]

My wife and I saw it yesterday. I loved every minute. Great story - well paced - and Hulk was perfect! My wife said I was like a kid because I was geeing out and telling her all the nuances behind the characters, etc while we were eating dinner after the movie.

 

I'm upset they killed Colson. He was one of the best things about the franchise.

I really like the old-school SHIELD reference of Tony Stark answering his phone and said "You've reached the Life Model Decoy of Tony Stark."

My only complaint? Cap's costume was just terrible. I wish it would have looked more like the old one - with textures, straps, buckles, etc.

[wolfsfang]

Ya that was one area that was a let down. Cap's costume was actually kinda cool in his solo movie as it looked like a proper military version of his costume which really suited the character I think. The one in the avengers looked like one you could pick up pretty cheap on ebay

And I agree Mark Ruffalo was awesome as Banner / Hulk and definitely better than Norton but I would still have to pick Eric Bana as my fave Banner at the moment.


Still I wouldn't say The Avengers is my fave superhero movie tho it is pure awesome. If I had to choose a fave I would have to say the first Spider-Man movie.

[Nemisythe]

I think the thing with Cap's and even Thor's costume tweaks were all part of the licensing and merchandising aspect of the movie: in order to sell more toys and identify it as the Avengers "brand" they had to create distinguish looks but not get away from what it is. But with this notion, I guess only find out when Cap 2 and Thor 2 are released.

@Bluestreak: The part of the 'LAST' confrontation between 'so and so' and Loki really rocked me, yet I really understood it for the story; it's was really brings them together as the Avengers for their final battle in the film. Can't say that makes me feel better but it was a key moment and a sad day for me...

[King Kahn]

A little - there are conclusions to be drawn.

Yeah, I assumed that they meant they were keeping Genreral Ross away from the Hulk

In the helicarrier they were all under the influence of Loki's staff which ramped up everyone's anger and animosity towards each other so when Banner hukled out he the last big emotion he had was anger towards all of the people in the room. Yes, He is more in control as the Hulk but he still isn't smart Hulk and he changed not by choice but because his emotions, which was which was clouded by Loki. When he changed the next time it was by choice and more focused.

Yeah I agree that's probably the pay off to the "Last Incident" moment, but the "other ending" isn't really touched on. The point of Stark being sent to General Ross still doesn't make sense to me. Why would SHIELD send Stark to talk to Ross about building up a team? It wasn't to enlist Banner, they didn't need Ross for that.

By other ending do you mean where he tries to kill himself in the middle of the frozen north and ends up hulking out where we actually see captain america in a block of ice? NOTE: This was a deleted scene on the blu ray for those that did not see it. Banner actually DOES mention that ending as well because he said he tried to kill himself by eating a bullet and it doesn't work out too well since the 'other guy' stopped him from dying.

[Ironman]

Step aside Dark Knight, The Avengers is kicking your butt. 200 million in its opening weekends. Insane!!!!! What a great movie. Marvel Rules!!!!!!

[Inhibitor]

People have been debating that. My thoughts--and some others--are that Loki was somehow messing with people's minds in the helicarrier, which is why they showed a panning overhead shot of the spear. I think the punch to Thor was just for comedic effect or some rivalry nod as th Hulk clearly wasn't going to fight him ie. throwaway punch.


I took away the spoiler tags since the thread title says SPOLIERS



Now I can't watch Coulson in the others movies the same way again

To me, the difference between Banners first and last hulk-out was due to the first being initiated by a physical attack on him and the last being intiated by himself. Perhaps that way he was able to retain more control.

If the wild rumors flying around are true, I can't wait to see Coulson in his new role!!

[Megalodon]

Why do people that don't know the characters stay until the end???

These two losers in front of me asked "Who's that?" When

 

THANOS

was shown..

Then I realized these movies are made for everyone but the true fans that actually know the characters will get it...

[wolfsfang]

Why do people that don't know the characters stay until the end???

These two losers in front of me asked "Who's that?" When was shown..

Then I realized these movies are made for everyone but the true fans that actually know the characters will get it...

Just because they didn't know who it was doesn't make them losers and yes "true fans" will recognize characters straight away but as you said these movies are made for everyone, they are there not just to cater to the fans of the characters but to also try and make some new ones. Yes us fans will know who the character at the end is, and that is good for us, but the casual viewer who may have not read a comic in years (if at all) will be interested in knowing who this mysterious big bad is and will possibly come back for the sequel to find out, or they may start picking up Avengers comics and other Marvel properties and discover him that way.

Now this is aimed at nobody in particular I am just saying, I hate this high and mighty attitude fans of properties have over people just discovering them.

[Krueger]

Now this is aimed at nobody in particular I am just saying, I hate this high and mighty attitude fans of properties have over people just discovering them.

True. Fans have to remember that these films wouldn't be the successes they are without the general audience. Truth is, they make up a much higher percentage of the audience. They're needed much more than we are, although the makers behind the film will never say as much.

[BCreviews4628]

Um no mega. I'm a true fan yet I don't get your attitude howards them. I was happy to inform a few people about him and his impact. I never once thought less of them for not knowing.

[Megalodon]

Just because they didn't know who it was doesn't make them losers and yes "true fans" will recognize characters straight away

Point saying all of the little tidbits at the end of ALL of the Marvel films are little things that people that know the stories stick around to watch about 75% of the audience left so that's your demographic.....Sorry but that's in alot of films the little zing zing that only people that know the story would take out of it...

Um no mega. I'm a true fan yet I don't get your attitude howards them. I was happy to inform a few people about him and his impact. I never once thought less of them for not knowing.

Why do people have to explain and enlighten??? These were teenagers who were playing with their phones part of the film and like alot of people do things because it's the "In" thing to do at the time so they never will get it.....I got kids and nieces and nephews that age so I know they don't know and don't care to know it's something the "old" folks do and it's not cool...