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MOTUC Most Wanted: Skeletor's Robot Knights, Two-Bad, Horde Troopers, Modulok, Sssqueeze, Tung Lashor, Stridor, Night Stalker, the Battle Ram, and a true, alternate head for Wun-Dar (since he's a "different" character)!
So, a He-Man variant with a different face and a different joint on his right hand would have been a BETTER SDCC exclusive? Meh... But there's one thing that is bad for me...I'll have to buy 3 SDCC figures and have 6 complete outfits left over....
I have to say the funniest "common theme" in the posts about "Why Vykron?" seems to be that the "casual buyer/fan" wouldn't know who he is, so how is that celebrating the 30th anniversary... Does the true casual fan even know or, for that matter, care that this is the 30th anniversary? By definition, the casual buyer just buys to buy and isn't as emotionally invested in the whole idea of the history behind MOTU in the first place. Tell the true casual buyer that it's the 30th anniversary of He-man, and the most you would get is a "Oh, cool... so what do you want for dinner?" I've got news for you, folks... if you actually care that it's the 30th anniversary of MOTU, if you actually care that POP or NA are getting slighted possibly, if you actually care that your He-Man can't hold his sword the way he did in the cartoon (which wasn't part of the original story of He-Man, so how that's better to celebrate the 30th anniversary, I don't get), if you actually care that this could have been our best hope of seeing Castle Grayskull in MOTUC, you are not a casual buyer.
Vykron is actually the sort of thing that, were we not all a bunch of "nothing's ever good enough" fans, is the perfect release for celebrating the 30th anniversary of MOTU. It's a release that goes back to the roots of the line and under normal circumstances would be embraced as a heck of a cool idea to run with.
Do you think the casual buyer cared about the Star Wars Ralph McQuarrie concept-based action figure sets from a couple of years ago? No... but I bet a lot of hardcore fans loved them.
So, in a nutshell, whether you like the execution of Vykor or not (and yes, I can see why some may not like the final product itself), the actual idea behind it is ideal for a 30th anniversary exclusive.
Although Castle Grayskull would have been flippin' awesome too!
Besides the merchandise I don`t feel 30th anniversary calebration in MOTUC.
The 30th line? Besides Draego Man I´m underwhelmed. New characters should kick my rear end. They didn`t.
Granamyr an important character? Not in my book. He`ll maybe get some importance in the new bios, but he was only another one shot character for me personally. Not excited for him.
He-Man 2.0 & Battle Ram would be perfect items for the 30th. Mattel made the wrong decisions in character selection imo and this discussions/threads are the result.
The fans have spoken.
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Last important characters: Two Bad, Tung Lashor, Squeeze, Modulok, Horde Trooper
LOL people kill me, everyone in this topic have their "ideas" for what would have been "better" for this line and almost none of them are the same.
That right there should tell you all you need to know, there is no perfect line up, no matter what is done someone will find fault with it.
You have people admitting they dont want figures b/c they dont know who they are, but there are a lot of people who do know who certain characters are.
People asking for more filmation, they just got the rights less then a year a go, it takes time to get things up and running.
I just smell entitlement too much on these boards, more so then the almost 10 years ive been here
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I have to agree with many others and think a lot has already been done to celebrate it is just that not everyone has the same idea of what should be done. I think if the motuc line STARTED this year people wouldn't complain at all as the line is made up of very very faithful remakes of all the old figures. We kind of forget that fact.
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I want NA Skeletor and Rio Blast and I want them now!
I mean, they definitely cannot make everyone happy, but man... one thing is to have "higher" expectations,
and a completely different one is to dismiss every single thing that is done by Mattel...
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I actually agree with Scott's post and as I've seen, you really can't win with how many fans complain. Even if something goes right, you'll always have someone complaining about how it could be "better" or outright hate it. I like the idea of Vykron a lot more than ANOTHER He-man variant (like we don't have enough as it is). I hope some people know we are celebrating MOTU and not just He-man for this 30th anniversary.
Personally I would have liked this year to have been exclusively Vintage figures, but I know that wish won't get widespread support.
There are plenty of other things that could have been done, such as republishing the Series One and Two minicomics, producing minicomic versions of He-Man (two options there as the styles are very different in those series), Beast Man, Trap Jaw and Tri-Klops, and reproducing some of the Obrero artwork. Oh yes, and making Castle Grayskull.
Those are the sort of things that would have made this a proper anniversary, rather than an excuse to sell half a dozen new figures.
Funny thing is, despite all the flack Spector is getting, I actually think he's the best of the bunch by a long way and is the most MOTU-looking of them all.
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I find the title of this thread quite contradictive (no insult or disrespect to the posters intended). Here we have Mattel releasing modern He-Man figures based on the first prototypes that were made 30 years ago when they were inventing the line. And here we have people actually requesting other figures that celebrate this 30 year anniversary because the figures that started it all aren't reminiscent of that time?
If they had released a '2.0 He-Man', we would have complained it was too plain for a sdcc exclusive and wanted something extra
If they had released a figure based on the Guerrero sculpt, we would have complained it was just a Vikor-clone
If they had released a regular figure like Modulok, Mosquitor or Ram Man, we would have complained about having a regular figure as exclusive and about how difficult it would be to get.
Poor Mattel, you can't do anything right, can you?
I'm loving this year...and what it has become (except for the delays...and QC problems) but there are two things that I wish could've come out of this year.
1. Another Vehicle. I know...the WindRaider...but tossing out the Battle Ram this year would've been incredible!
2. A playset. I'm not talking Grayskull necessarily...but maybe a smaller one to test the waters. Point Dread...the Slime Pit...something along those lines...even one of the towers of Eternia. Just to see the SKU added and see what the 4H can do with a playset.
And, as far as things that you can't control...solid information that a movie is coming and will begin filming.
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Again good idea in concept, but the results have mostly failed to do so. Draego Man was largely successful but Photog had mixed reviews (and is not entirely a new character) Sir Laser Lot got lackluster feedback and, face it Scott, The Mighty Spector is just plain hated by the majority of fans. I'm sorry I know your proud of your creation but he just isn't liked and the more he's used in official canon the LESS people will like him.2: New characters introduced as figures first in the "30th" line
Celebrates the emotion of seeing a figure for the first time as a toy, a very "MOTU" thing.
This is good. Not everyone likes him but at least most who don't acknowledge it's right that he was made.3: Making things right with Fearlesss Photog
Celebrates the vintage contest and fan requests to make him
But you're not. You rewrote the first part changing a LOT to fit it into the new continuity and the next two parts are not going to be what was intended at all! Aside from the changed plotline and added new characters, from the leaked art it seems He-Ro's death will occur in this story. The original mini comics were supposed to introduce He-Ro so obviously he wasn't going to die! Making it right would have been doing the original plot based on the vintage continuity not completely altering it.4: Making things right by finishing "The Powers of Grayskull" part 2 and 3
Celebrates where the vintage mini comics left off and bringing that into Classics.
another good concept overall assuming the final winner is liked. Probably should have let fans vote on the finalist like in the original contest. Note that Mattel is choosing the winner and one of the qualification parameters is "It must feel like a MOTU character" Well what exactly "feels like a MOTUY character"? Because the biggest argument haters lob against Mighty Spector is he doesn't feel like one.5: Offering a nation wide contest letting fans create an all new character
Celebrates the fans letting one winner create the next toy
REJECTED concept by guy who doesn't like the brand. Not bad figures but they really don't celebrate the line.6: Offering a SDCC item that harkens back to the creations of the brand in a fun collectable way
Celebrates the making of the line
No complaints. (provided he turns out good)7: Doing the biggest figure ever - Granamyr
Should have done the vote last year so the figure was actually part of the 30th anniversary but that's being nitpicky. Really I think the concern is more that the non-winners will then never get made and there may be some really wanted characters.8: Selling a 2013 sub that includes a fan choice slot with one of the candidates selected by this very site!
Celebrates the future of the line and more fan involvement
Well... okay but we really should have more core POP characters. Giving us the obscure Star Sisters (who I do like btw) and saying that's your POP for the year is not okay. Unless you're planning to do a whole bunch of them for She-Ra's 30th -but will the line last that long?9: Offering a lot of vintage line figures in monthly slots including Spikor, Sorceress, Fisto and Mosquitor (among others..)
Celebrates the vintage line's figures
The story SUCKS! From day one the bio continuity has been garbled by trying to force contradicting elements into one story and including some of the WORST ideas ever. Yes not everyone will like everything but when you know right off the bat that fans will HATE it. Killing the Sorceress does not expand the story it ****** people off. You aren't taking the storyline further your wrecking what we loved about it. This is most certainly NOT celebrating MOTU.10: Revealing key information in bios such as TPHM
Celebrates the Classics line bringing the story into better focus (and just wait until the rest of the 2012 bios are revealed for more!)
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