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    Vyk(r?)on

    Based on crack research by our friend, Vlcan, the wonderful Power and Honor book states "Vykon" was the name given to the character by Roger Sweet.

    Exhibit A:


    Now we have the newly presented (and highly controversial ) Vykron!

    So the question is: Is this supposed to be the same name? Is the Power and Honor book mistaken or did Mattel get the name wrong? Or is there something else going on entirely?

    DUN DUN DUN!!!

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    It's probably because of Vikor, but I would love if it was a mistake on Mattel's part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post
    Based on crack research by our friend, Vlcan, the wonderful Power and Honor book states "Vykon" was the name given to the character by Roger Sweet.

    Exhibit A:
    http://www.he-man.org/forums/boards/...0&d=1335810164

    Now we have the newly presented (and highly controversial ) Vykron!

    So the question is: Is this supposed to be the same name? Is the Power and Honor book mistaken or did Mattel get the name wrong? Or is there something else going on entirely?

    DUN DUN DUN!!!
    Thx for doing this NorthCoast. JonWes mentioned it could be a licensing issue as well. But if this name is wrong I'd be a little upset about it. How could you get the SDCC name wrong.
    I think Vikor=Vykon. Plain and simple. Don't want to stir the pot up too much.
    Again we need Mr. Santalucia,Mr. Pelt,Mr. Eatock,Mr. O'Donoghue or Mrs. Gelehrter to chime in on this wether or not it's spelled correctly in the P&H book.
    Last edited by Vlcan; April 30, 2012 at 10:56pm.

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    Vykon is what we know today as Vikor...
    Vykron however is the concept of He-Man/MOTU with futuristic techno elements, thus they named him Vykron short for Viking and Tron, at least that's how I'm guessing.
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    Exhibit A: LOL!

    That's great.

    Perhaps the package should have a big question mark on it instead of "Vykron".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkkosis View Post
    Vykon is what we know today as Vikor...
    Vykron however is the concept of He-Man/MOTU with futuristic techno elements, thus they named him Vykron short for Viking and Tron, at least that's how I'm guessing.
    Yeah....makes sense. Maybe got a little too crazy about thinking too much into it. I don't dislike Vykon so I wonder why Mattel didn't name him Vykon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkkosis View Post
    Vykon is what we know today as Vikor...
    Vykron however is the concept of He-Man/MOTU with futuristic techno elements, thus they named him Vykron short for Viking and Tron, at least that's how I'm guessing.
    A wee bit confusing and convoluted if that's the case. But I remain unconvinced...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post
    A wee bit confusing and convoluted if that's the case. But I remain unconvinced...
    So Mr. Sweet referred to the concept drawing done by Mr. Taylor(which is the Vikor drawing) as Vykon. This is the same figure we now know as Vikor in the MOTUC. Yeah confusing isn't it. So then I was wondering why we didn't go w/ Vykon as the name for the SDCC figure that we now know as Vykron. Still confusing to you guys & gals. Just was curious why Mattel didn't. licensing maybe...trademark or whatever I think I got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post
    A wee bit confusing and convoluted if that's the case. But I remain unconvinced...
    The line from the beginning was to merge technology with sword and sorcery, and that's how MOTU started.
    As for Vykron, I'm not totally sure how they came up with this name, but looking at the concepts and the history of MOTU, it made some sense to me that they went with this route. I could be wrong though...
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    Maybe I should have titled this "The Case of the Mysterious "R" or "How I Stopped Caring and Learned to Love My Incomplete Set".
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    Does it matter? He could rename it anything he wants. Either way I'll throw a fake outrage over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCB View Post
    Does it matter? He could rename it anything he wants. Either way I'll throw a fake outrage over it.
    But the HISTORY! (Please use a Ren voice for added effect)
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post
    But the HISTORY! (Please use a Ren voice for added effect)
    for all we know they wanted to avoid a lawsuit by sweet and that's why they added the r.

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    The only trademark I found related to Vykron was the one owned by Mattel. Interestingly, they didn't file for it until April 16th. I'm a patent guy, not a trademark guy, so I couldn't speak to what kind of delay there is between filing an application and being given a filing date. Maybe they really did wait until that close to the announcement to file, but that seems a little risky since TG had packaging already in his video.

    In any event, there are a couple of "Vykon" filings, but they aren't for toys. Maybe they wanted a name with absolutely nothing related to it trademark-wise. Maybe they thought Vykon and Vikor were just too similar (n and r being easy to mis-read).

    From the USPTO website...

    Word Mark VYKRON
    Goods and Services IC 028. US 022 023 038 050. G & S: TOY ACTION FIGURES AND ACCESSORIES THEREFOR
    Standard Characters Claimed
    Mark Drawing Code
    (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
    Serial Number 85598592
    Filing Date April 16, 2012
    Current Basis 1B
    Original Filing Basis 1B
    Owner (APPLICANT) MATTEL, INC. CORPORATION DELAWARE M1-1518 333 CONTINENTAL BOULEVARD EL SEGUNDO CALIFORNIA 90245
    Attorney of Record MATT SOLMON
    Type of Mark TRADEMARK
    Register PRINCIPAL
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    Vykron is to Vykon,
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    Oo-Larr is to Mo-Larr
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post
    Is the Power and Honor book mistaken or did Mattel get the name wrong? Or is there something else going on entirely?

    DUN DUN DUN!!!
    Roger Sweet mentioned the name Vykon 3 times in his "Mastering of the Universe" book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcrduke View Post
    Vykron is to Vykon,
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    Oo-Larr is to Mo-Larr


    Quote Originally Posted by Jukka View Post
    Roger Sweet mentioned the name Vykon 3 times in his "Mastering of the Universe" book.
    He might just be remembering "Vikor" as "Vykon" incorrectly. He also says in the book that Tri-Klops is a hero. *shrugs*

    Anyway, I had this in another thread, but deleted it and am moving it here:

    EDIT: By the way, the only actual document I see in the Power & Honor book with a name given to the lead character in Roger Sweet's vision of the toy line is "Megaton-Man." The "Vykon" that's in the book, refers to what he called Mark Taylor's "Vikor." So, if anything (from my understanding), the SDCC exclusive should be called "Megaton-Man" as none of the other name's were Roger Sweet's creation, referring to his 3 prototypes. He only referred to them as the "He-Man trio" (and that was probably years later, because I think the name "He-Man" wasn't thought up at the time).

    Anyway, long story short: Megaton-Man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkspecter View Post
    He might just be remembering "Vikor" as "Vykon" incorrectly.
    Yeah, which is what PAH catalog refers to.

    Megaton-Man would have been a good name. Even if to just get out of starting a character name with "V" (as Vikor already is a figure in the line).
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjw41 View Post
    Well done Mr. Mason well done
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    Maybe they just don't want to use the version that Sweet came up with for legal reasons so they just added the "r"
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