Horde Prime = "Older" Hordak?

[Irian]

Personally I never liked the idea that there was a Big Bad above Hordak and I do not really like it that in MOTUC canon Horde Prime could be Hordak's older brother.

BUT

With all the time travel that has been introduced into MOTUC - what do you think of the idea that Horde Prime is not really the brother but actually Hordak himself, who only poses as his older brother?

When Skeletor defeats Hordak, Skeletor could throw Hordak through a time portal that leads to ancient times, where Hordak than takes the disguise of his own brother to lead the Horde Empire for centuries and prepare it for the arrival of NA Skaletor and NA He-Man. Think about the reveal that could happen, when our He-Ro realizes that this Horde Prime is actually an "Older" Hordak who's full of revenge and anger!

What do you think?

[Pollex Christi]

I agree in that I also don't like there being another above Hordak. I do see Horde Prime as a distinctly different character, though. But, being the Horde leader of a different era is a very cool idea and great way around the "Think he's bad? Wait'll you see his boss!" concept that I don't like.

[dedset13]

I like what's already been established.

If Hordak is the worst the Horde has to offer, He-Man and Skeletor don't have much to worry about.

Horde Prime is kind of like the Emperor from Star Wars. Palpatine doesn't make Lord Vader any less of a bad-ass and I feel the same about Horde Prime and Hordak.

[He-Dad]

I like what's already been established.

If Hordak is the worst the Horde has to offer, He-Man and Skeletor don't have much to worry about.

Horde Prime is kind of like the Emperor from Star Wars. Palpatine doesn't make Lord Vader any less of a bad-ass and I feel the same about Horde Prime and Hordak.

That Emperor connection is EXACTLY how I always thought Horde Prime to be.

[Mad Scientist]

I like what's already been established.

This leads to the question What is fully established in the Motu universe? Filmation has a history, the minicomics have another history, Other comics have another history. MYP has his own version. And now TG is trying to blend it altogether in the bios. Obviously there are a few things that remain the same in all stories. But going back to Horde Prime, I do not know the origin of the UK comic version, but in Filmation POP, as far as I remember, he is some kind of Galactic lider of the Horde, while (blue) Hordak is just governing Etheria and dealing with a bunch of rebels. In that case I prefer MYP Hordak. And Horde Prime being Hordak himself from the future makes sense to me. Also explains why he has his face covered

[Barnster]

I'm okay with the idea of HP beeing Hordak's brother, as long as Hordak kills him to become the one and only ruthless leader of the Horde.

[JonWes]

I'm okay with the idea of HP beeing Hordak's brother, as long as Hordak kills him to become the one and only ruthless leader of the Horde.

This is exactly what I think!

[phantom1592]

I have always hated the 'bigger, badder villain' concept...

Hordak being the teacher/trainer of Skeletor, diminished Skeletor.... Horde Prime ruling Hordak, diminished Hordak... King Hiss ruled the entire planet (and more)... diminshed them all..


Somehow, He-man's #1 bad guy and Arch-enemy has found himself at the bottom of the evil pyramid here...


PERSONALLY, I would consider Horde Prime to be "Battlefield Hordak'

[Megalodon]

So right:

Horde Prime: Emperor
Hordak: Darth Vader

So easy but simple.....

[Nemisythe]

I have always hated the 'bigger, badder villain' concept...

Hordak being the teacher/trainer of Skeletor, diminished Skeletor.... Horde Prime ruling Hordak, diminished Hordak... King Hiss ruled the entire planet (and more)... diminshed them all..






Somehow, He-man's #1 bad guy and Arch-enemy has found himself at the bottom of the evil pyramid here...


PERSONALLY, I would consider Horde Prime to be "Battlefield Hordak'

Well seemingly so, but this is the way I rationalize this...

He's only at the bottom of the chain (right now) cause he is the latest Baddie in the playground as the others have been around for quite some time. He has YET to come into his own and as these past evils arise, Skeletor lays 'deep in the cut' for his moment of time!!!

[Akai]

I've already gotten used to HP being Hordak's older brother. Their relationship ought to be mutual respect same as the Emperor and Darth Vader. Cowering in fear did really hurt Hordak's credibility as a villain in the Filmation series. He would make Etherian peasants and the rebels squrim in his hand but wouldn't dare to try anything on Horde Prime.

[baronterror]

...of course not? Weird poll. Horde Prime is Hordak's brother (more or less).

I still like to think of him as the elder gray sorcerer from 200x MYP to the younger blue Tech Filmation. It's elvolved to maybe the gray evolved into the blue tech with that techno virus ala somone's inspired suggestion. But I still see him as the elder.

[Uki]

Like Button!!!

I like what's already been established.

If Hordak is the worst the Horde has to offer, He-Man and Skeletor don't have much to worry about.

Horde Prime is kind of like the Emperor from Star Wars. Palpatine doesn't make Lord Vader any less of a bad-ass and I feel the same about Horde Prime and Hordak.

[Nekk-ra]

I'd like to think Horde Prime was the head of the Horde when Hordak first invaded Preternia, but has long since died while Hordak and his legion were trapped in Despondos. Maybe there are different Horde generals who set up there own fiefdoms from the remnants of the Horde Empire in the 5000 years that passed.

[Vahn]

I never liked HORDE PRIME, because it felt like they were eventually going to say, "Oh wait, even he's not the worst; wait 'til you see HORDE ULTIMATE PRIME FIRST-CLASS SUPERBAD SUPREME OMEGA VON BADASS." I think the whole, "there's always someone bigger and badder," angle is crap. But when I heard that HORDE PRIME was supposed to be HORDAK's brother, I came up with the idea that PRIME was still the ruler when they kidnapped ADORA (that's why HORDAK looked more like a Horde General in Secret of the Sword), but has since killed his older brother and taken over. I don't like to completely change or ignore even the concepts I don't like, but I do sometimes rewrite things to make them a little less lame.

So they remain two different characters for me, but also ruled at different times.

[kylun flac]

Horde Prime is an ancient dime-god whose spirit was split into. one part was trapped in the shakarran crystal the other as a body-less spirit ruling over the horde empire on horde world.
that clears up the 200x mvc comic & how we seen prime from filmation. the uk comic is how he was before being destroyed & his spirit torn into.

[Swifty]

I like what's already been established.

If Hordak is the worst the Horde has to offer, He-Man and Skeletor don't have much to worry about.

Horde Prime is kind of like the Emperor from Star Wars. Palpatine doesn't make Lord Vader any less of a bad-ass and I feel the same about Horde Prime and Hordak.

Perfectly put. I agree with this 100 %.

[Nemisythe]

I think Horde Prime is Hordak. After his last defeat on Eternia, he actually retreats and makes it finally back to Horde World and finally 're-builds' himself and begins to conquer the 5 Dimensions. ().

[Teitan]

Come on with these time travellers sigh.

[Nianotreve]

For me HP has always been the man at the top, I had the UK 3rd sword comic long before i saw the Filmation version.

I did adapt him and Hordak a little though.
HordePrime = top of the pyramid, the overall ruler and creator of the Horde
Hordak = A title rather than a name, "Horde" meaning of the Horde and "Ak" from the Horde word "General". There are 4 of these high ranking warriors each sent to a different corner of the Universe.
None of these 4 are related to each other or HordePrime. Each recruits the own Horde army, including one or more "Hordelagg". "Lagg" from the Horde word meaning "Lieutenant". Keldor was to be Kur's Hordelagg before he betrayed him.

"In my canon".. one day another Hordak will arrive after completly taking over his corner of the Universe, then Kur will be in trouble...

[Alexxandar]

I like what's already been established.

If Hordak is the worst the Horde has to offer, He-Man and Skeletor don't have much to worry about.

Horde Prime is kind of like the Emperor from Star Wars. Palpatine doesn't make Lord Vader any less of a bad-ass and I feel the same about Horde Prime and Hordak.

That Emperor connection is EXACTLY how I always thought Horde Prime to be.

This is especially noteworthy now that we know Horde Prime had all the Cosmic Enforcers annihilated.

[Sir Reilly]

I'm not really keen on the idea of Horde Prime being old man Hordak.

I rather envision that Horde Prime indeed originally was Hordak's brother, but more of a religious figure. Whereas Hordak rules the armies, Horde Prime spreads their "philosophy" throughout the galaxy, keeping the interstellar empire together through their "religion" of absolute dominion.