Griffin, Horde Prime, and Snake Man-at-Arms Packaged pics on Matty's Facebook!

**wundarwarrior** · May 8, 2012, 10:05pm

I think the deaths are a fine addition and it does allow the story to progress. However, MAA could and probably will return in some capacity, if even as a ghost or full-on robot body he might've built to put his conscience in. I do not like the NA story though and they need to alter it heavily. He-Man needs Battle Cat and his hidden identity. The NA stuff used to feel like a cheap Star Wars so i hope they keep more races and characters like Buzz-Off and Stratos with him. It could just get bland if they don't keep it diverse instead of a bunch of human friends.

**fball13z** · May 8, 2012, 10:10pm

Originally Posted by He-Boy

Does anyone know the history of the storyline where Randor & Keldor are brothers (and where Keldor is Skeletor). I understand that it was hinted in the 80s minicomic, but was the plan back then to have Keldor be Skeletor or was that only decided over the past decade or so?

I remember before 200X/MYP it was one of the hottest topics here on the org but most of the conversation was speculative.

it was always just a "known" "rumor" before the 200X show, but thats when it became part of one of the cannons officially

**Darkspecter** · May 8, 2012, 10:27pm

Originally Posted by He-Boy

Does anyone know the history of the storyline where Randor & Keldor are brothers (and where Keldor is Skeletor). I understand that it was hinted in the 80s minicomic, but was the plan back then to have Keldor be Skeletor or was that only decided over the past decade or so?

I remember before 200X/MYP it was one of the hottest topics here on the org but most of the conversation was speculative.

He-Man.org did an interview with the person responsible for "The Search For Keldor" mini-comic, and he revealed that Skeletor was going to turn out to be Keldor in the 80's. The MYP crew read the interview and kept it for the show.

**Tuukka** · May 9, 2012, 04:57am

Didn't read the bios entirely, but one thing is for sure:

CLAMP CHAMP IS COMING SOON!

**vadersfist** · May 9, 2012, 05:03am

This has to be the BEST month which is June to get Matty figures and I really can't wait. I think I'd almost switch months if I could have the griffin NOW and that horde prime cause those are making me giddy.

**Sir Reilly** · May 9, 2012, 05:19am

Whereas I don't have a problem with characters dying, I'm rather disappointed that Clamp Champ pretty much kills Duncan. I wanted Duncan to die with a bang, like regaining his senses and detonating a bomb within Viper Tower, taking several enemies with him. Judging from the bio his death is just lame.

**SCB** · May 9, 2012, 05:21am

Originally Posted by Tuukka

Didn't read the bios entirely, but one thing is for sure:

CLAMP CHAMP IS COMING SOON!

Yep, I expect him to have the arm cannon as well.

**Darkspecter** · May 9, 2012, 05:24am

Originally Posted by SCB

Yep, I expect him to have the arm cannon as well.

Oh my, he kills him and then robs his corpse?! Clamp Champ is pretty dark.

**Wolfman Jake** · May 9, 2012, 05:43am

I too am less than thrilled with the implications of Snake Man-At-Arms' MOTUC bio, but the writers were clever enough not to explicitly state "death" in their wording. A mortal wound is one that, when untreated, will lead to death. It does not even necessarily have to be an immediate or even a quick death. A small paper cut that gets infected with something like staph can kill you if left untreated. A mortal wound is reclassified if treatment is successful and the victim lives. SMAA's bio only goes so far as to describe what happened up to the events it recounts about the second Ultimate Battleground. We know a version of "New Adventures" happens afterwards, but nothing is hinted at there in SMAA's bio, nor is there any mention of Duncan being definitively deceased in that timeframe from the bios we have so far. Mattel has a pretty obvious back door in place to keep Duncan around throughout the rest of the Masters of the Universe Classics saga.

**Dragonblaster** · May 9, 2012, 05:47am

It's weird - I always thought the vintage Clamp Champ figure was very boring.
But now, with the new character background (at first royal bodyguard, his connection to Duncan and CC being the new MAA) it really makes me want the figure... I hope he'll get some additional tech upgrades though.

Originally Posted by Darkspecter

Clamp Champ is pretty dark.

And we wouldn't want him any other way, now would we?

**Darkspecter** · May 9, 2012, 05:53am

Originally Posted by Dragonblaster

And we wouldn't want him any other way, now would we?

Oops...I didn't mean it that way!

**Barnster** · May 9, 2012, 07:53am

Originally Posted by Dragonblaster

It's weird - I always thought the vintage Clamp Champ figure was very boring.
But now, with the new character background (at first royal bodyguard, his connection to Duncan and CC being the new MAA) it really makes me want the figure... I hope he'll get some additional tech upgrades though.

Agree 100%.

I also wish Dekker is somehow related to Clamp Champ (grandfather?).

**Swanmarsh** · May 9, 2012, 09:37am

Originally Posted by Barnster

Agree 100%.

I also wish Dekker is somehow related to Clamp Champ (grandfather?).

I thought this was still a possibility. Has it been confirmed somewhere that this is definitely not the case??

**cyberv** · May 9, 2012, 09:50am

Sigh... First Sorceress, now Man-At-Arms. Gotta say, this new canon's pretty depressing so far. I'd really hoped for a last-minute reversal to bring him back to the good guys for the final battle.

We also learned that He-Man and She-Ra bring down Horde Prime, although we don't know how. Nice to know that jerk gets what's coming to him. Now kill Hsss for what he did to Duncan!

**Eternian Poet** · May 9, 2012, 10:12am

I suppose we can assume that CC mortally wounds MAA ACCIDENTALLY - considering CC's prime weapon is non-lethal.

Still, choosing CC was a dumb idea, considering this. He's one of few heroic characters whose weapon is non-lethal.

Orko should have dealt the blow

**AdultCollector** · May 9, 2012, 10:38am

Maybe Snake MAA was threatening the king's life and so CC had no other choice but to uphold his duty and dispatch MAA to protect the king?

**Kevenn** · May 9, 2012, 10:42am

Originally Posted by Eternian Poet

I suppose we can assume that CC mortally wounds MAA ACCIDENTALLY - considering CC's prime weapon is non-lethal.

Still, choosing CC was a dumb idea, considering this. He's one of few heroic characters whose weapon is non-lethal.

Not only that, but Scott's story has Duncan's humanity restored, then the only black heroic Eternian character kills Man-At-Arms. It strikes me as playing to stereotypes. Cue angry mob for this observation in 3...2...

**dorrmann** · May 9, 2012, 10:58am

Originally Posted by Kevenn

Not only that, but Scott's story has Duncan's humanity restored, then the only black heroic Eternian character kills Man-At-Arms. It strikes me as playing to stereotypes. Cue angry mob for this observation in 3...2...

Let's not, please.

**Inhibitor** · May 9, 2012, 11:04am

Originally Posted by Barnster

Agree 100%.

I also wish Dekker is somehow related to Clamp Champ (grandfather?).

Eh. For the record, making all these familial connections can be a crutch for bad writing. I still think the Keldor/Randor thing is redunkulous because you'd still have to explain the obvious difference in physiology (blue skin, pointed ears). Most importantly, it doesn't add anything meaningful to the characters; they never access that part of their lives anyway!

The only family connection that worked for me was Teela/Sorceress. If I had my druthers, I'd make Zodak the son of Melaktha.

**Marvelous0ne** · May 9, 2012, 11:14am

Originally Posted by Kevenn

Not only that, but Scott's story has Duncan's humanity restored, then the only black heroic Eternian character kills Man-At-Arms. It strikes me as playing to stereotypes. Cue angry mob for this observation in 3...2...

I would have rather seen Teela be the one to have killed him. Only cause her magic wasn't strong enough to bring him back fully. And Duncan pleads with her to do it before he reverts back to his snake form. Would have made for better story!

Originally Posted by Tuukka

Didn't read the bios entirely, but one thing is for sure:

CLAMP CHAMP IS COMING SOON!

Well we knew he was coming! Many expected it when we got the Royal Guard set. Many believe that the black soldier to be Clamp Champ.

**fball13z** · May 9, 2012, 11:53am

Originally Posted by Kevenn

Not only that, but Scott's story has Duncan's humanity restored, then the only black heroic Eternian character kills Man-At-Arms. It strikes me as playing to stereotypes. Cue angry mob for this observation in 3...2...

are you really trying to turn this into a race thing?? lol wow

**He-Boy** · May 9, 2012, 01:15pm

Originally Posted by Dragonblaster

It's weird - I always thought the vintage Clamp Champ figure was very boring.
But now, with the new character background (at first royal bodyguard, his connection to Duncan and CC being the new MAA) it really makes me want the figure... I hope he'll get some additional tech upgrades though.

I agree. Just hope the tech upgrades aren't tubes though.

**Xetheus** · May 9, 2012, 01:24pm

Originally Posted by Marvelous0ne

I would have rather seen Teela be the one to have killed him. Only cause her magic wasn't strong enough to bring him back fully. And Duncan pleads with her to do it before he reverts back to his snake form. Would have made for better story!

Well we knew he was coming! Many expected it when we got the Royal Guard set. Many believe that the black soldier to be Clamp Champ.

Yeah, that would actually be really cool, if the black soldier becomes the new MAA. It's like from the first MIB movie "..., because you are looking for the best of the best of the best, Sir!" Makes sense then!

**Tzadkiel** · May 9, 2012, 01:35pm

So the difference between Clamp Champ and Duncan is...Clamp Champ makes this look good?

**NastyNate** · May 9, 2012, 01:55pm

Originally Posted by Tzadkiel

So the difference between Clamp Champ and Duncan is...Clamp Champ makes this look good?

Clamp Champ would rather look good and lose, than look bad and win.
The main difference between Clamp Champ and Duncan? SIMPLE....Snake Men CANT jump.
(Im REALLY dating myself here with an early 90's basketball movie reference)

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