Fan Reactions - Mighty Spector vs. CAC Winner

[Kowl]

Hello He-Fans & She-Ravers!

Today's sale of the Mighty Spector got me thinking about how negative our reactions have been regarding this figure and towards Scott regarding him.

My Question : How are we going to handle the fan reaction to the CAC contest winner?

There is a good chance that whoever wins the CAC contest will be a member here on the ORG (or a similar MOTU forum).
A large majority of us submitted entries to this contest. I didn't because I can't even draw a proper stick figure.

When the figure is announced, are fellow He-Fans going to embrace their fellow fan winner no matter what?
Are fans unhappy with the figure/character (or unhappy because they didn't win) going to be just as cruel to the winner as they have been to Scott and the Mighty Spector?

I hope the MODs don't merge this with another thread, as I really believe we need to step back and analyze this potential situation before it occurs.

Discuss.

Good Journey!

*Edit* - A lot of great responses. I fully expect we will see a good amout of "constructive criticism," but I hope it doesn't get as nasty as MS & SLL have been. At the end of the day though, a fellow fan is getting his/her creation come to life and we should all be happy for him/her.

[JonWes]

I honestly think it'll depend on what the CAC winner looks like. I tend to think people will be less harsh overall, or at least not feel so free in their criticism, but I don't expect people will hold back entirely just because it's a fellow fan.

[Weasel]

I honestly think it'll depend on what the CAC winner looks like. I tend to think people will be less harsh overall, or at least not feel so free in their criticism, but I don't expect people will hold back entirely just because it's a fellow fan.

I agree. There will be bashing, but I don't think it will be as much as TMS.

[MOTU_Maniac]

My reaction will be based upon whether or not I like the figure.

[krosfyah]

i think people will be much more supportive. as much as spector fails in my opinion a LOT of the negativity comes from scott's detractors. don't get me wrong it's an abysmal figure in my eyes, but it gets a much heavier burden because of scott. the objective criticisms get lost in that because scott's supporters only call attention to his detractors

so even if the figure isn't great, most fans will be happy for the winner. I hated photog as a kid because I thought my designs were way better (little did i know Canadians weren't eligible) but I was still going to buy it when it came out.

there are a lot of artists in th fan art and custom section that aren't as good as others, but rarely does anyone bash them. hell some people commission them!

[Uki]

Don't worry-you guys will love my design.

If, in the off chance one of mine doesn't win I'm sure I'll love it. I'm pretty open to it all-I love Spector, Photog, and will welcome the goofiest characters (NA scientists, Trollans, Sorrowful, Songster, etc...)

[Snake Hunter]

Ill wait and see the design of the new character.

[Barbecue17]

While it ultimately comes down to Mattel's decision as to which design wins, I trust that most fans will probably have a better idea of a figure they would both like to see and that feels like it belongs in MOTU rather than Spector which, no disrespect, was largely a pet project that finally found a home in MOTUC. I'm expecting closer to Draego-Man than Spector.

I think it will still get some criticism,as it is impossible to please everyone, but perhaps it will be based more on design elements rather than the issue of the character not feeling like a MOTU character.

[Scorpia]

Tricky - if the winner understands MOTU and that comes across in their work, they'll be fine. I really don't think there'll be jealousy (at least not expressed in such a way).

Consider this: would you have embraced Photog if you saw his design for the first time as an adult? I treat him with fairness because he's a part of the MOTU lore. But his design hurts my eyes. If the winner of CAC 2012 is in any way similar in style, feel or general goofiness as Photog, all hell will break loose.

[Prahvus]

Are fans unhappy with the figure/character (or unhappy because they didn't win) going to be just as cruel to the winner as they have been to Scott and the Mighty Spector?

If I like the CAC contest figure, I'll say it. If I hate it, I'll say it too...

[ksensor]

Today's sale of the Mighty Spector got me thinking about how negative our reactions have been regarding this figure and towards Scott regarding him.

My Question : How are we going to handle the fan reaction to the CAC contest winner?

This is exactly the reason I didn't submit a design. If you win, all you'll get is criticism. Why would I volunteer to be ripped on by tons of toy collectors? For the pleasure of reading a bunch of "meh" and "easy pass" posts whenever my figure is discussed? No thanks.

[CreamCheeseAlchemy]

My reaction will be based upon whether or not I like the figure.

As it should be. I hope you guys would like mine- I had all my MOTUC figures out when I was designing it, but I'm cool with fair criticism and all...

[Larry Waters]

Again...it has NOTHING to do with the fact that Scott designed TMS. It's just a BAD design. Period. Same as Sir Lose A Lot.

That said, if the CAC figure looks good, I'm sure people will get behind it. If it sucks, it'll be spat upon just like the above-mentioned releases.

[fball13z]

Again...it has NOTHING to do with the fact that Scott designed TMS. It's just a BAD design. Period. Same as Sir Lose A Lot.

That said, if the CAC figure looks good, I'm sure people will get behind it. If it sucks, it'll be spat upon just like the above-mentioned releases.

While that is true for most normal people, there was a group very vocal about Scott being the major issue with TMS, re-read TMS topic, it gets real personal

now as far as the CAC figure, I think the fan reaction will be more level headed, but their will be jealous people, that are mad b/c their figure was way "better" then the one that won. mark my words, it will be sad to watch people act that way, but its going to happen, just not to the point of TMS

[krosfyah]

Again...it has NOTHING to do with the fact that Scott designed TMS. It's just a BAD design. Period. Same as Sir Lose A Lot.
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for most people, like I said the criticism of Spector is WELL warranted, but he's been ragged on more than SLL because Scott has detractors. Now because Scott has detractors that won't give him credit for ANYTHING, the venom towards his terrible design is amplified it's just fuel for the fire, it's EXCELLENT fuel, burns clean and long but if he did a great design there would still be some hate. That's why SLL doesn't have the same intense seething directed towards him, despite being a nearly equally lame design (I think SLL is slightly better, all In my opinion of course)

There is also a TINY minority who hate the horsemen based on their vision of 2002 and they rip Draego-Man, but they are so small a mnority they hardly register.

Tricky - if the winner understands MOTU and that comes across in their work, they'll be fine. I really don't think there'll be jealousy (at least not expressed in such a way).

Consider this: would you have embraced Photog if you saw his design for the first time as an adult? I treat him with fairness because he's a part of the MOTU lore. But his design hurts my eyes. If the winner of CAC 2012 is in any way similar in style, feel or general goofiness as Photog, all hell will break loose.

I hated photog as a kid, but I accepted it begrudgingly after a while, when I got older I was more of a completist with MOTU, and this was a time when figures were slowing down in the stores so I was anxious to buy anything official! as bad as I think the concept is, it is still MOTU in it's language. Weak but still fits into what MOTU is to some degree.

[vertigoink]

Again...it has NOTHING to do with the fact that Scott designed TMS. It's just a BAD design. Period. Same as Sir Lose A Lot.

That said, if the CAC figure looks good, I'm sure people will get behind it. If it sucks, it'll be spat upon just like the above-mentioned releases.

EXACTLY- I've been known to be at odds with some of TG ideas and decisions, but at the end of the day, it's the horribly banal and boring design of TMS that makes me detest the figure. I would even be so bold to say I take that dislike x1000 for Sir Lames a Lot who is just utterly and totally a fail in both deco and design (he quite literally appears as if someone randomly took parts out of a scrap box and pieced them together with little care). As for the fan CAC winner, I think people forget that the Four Horseman were some of the judges as were Scott I'd assume, Terry Higuchi and perhaps Geoff Johns? Whatever the case may be as far as judging goes there is definitely a control group in the judging that will prevent a large fail in my opinion- I'm sure Eric for instance didn't say yes to some flying spaghetti monster with windshield wiper sword and stop sign shield. I think the whole control group element is what will ensure the CAC winner is less "Spector and SLL" and more "Draego-Man".

[Spacedust]

I would hope, bearing in mind the friendly place that the He-Fan community is (tempted to say "was", but I'll be optimistic ) that whoever wins - and it quite possibly may be an .orger, that they'll get congratulated for taking part and winning. I don't see it as a big deal really.
With Might Spectacle, on the other hand, I feel that The Powers That Be could have come up with something better for the line, especially during the 30th Anniversary.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate MS at all, but he's just a kinda "meh" character during a period in the line that, for me, has felt a bit uninspired of late (Fisto et all still in post hoping to change that situation).

[vertigoink]

I would hope, bearing in mind the friendly place that the He-Fan community is (tempted to say "was", but I'll be optimistic ) that whoever wins - and it quite possibly may be an .orger, that they'll get congratulated for taking part and winning. I don't see it as a big deal really.
With Might Spectacle, on the other hand, I feel that The Powers That Be could have come up with something better for the line, especially during the 30th Anniversary.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate MS at all, but he's just a kinda "meh" character during a period in the line that, for me, has felt a bit uninspired of late (Fisto et all still in post hoping to change that situation).

I agree and I'm optimistic about the response for the CAC because really whoever wins is a representative for us as a fan base; there is no winner or loser in that kind of situation where it's an "every man" type outcome- when one of us wins, all of us win.

[Ealo]

If people don't like the CAC figure, they'll unleash hell on Scott for having picked it (though he only gets one vote among half a dozen if i remember correctly - but since he's the only one that'll publicly be seen, he'll get all the blow back personally). Of course, if a well known org member wins, then it'll all be peaches and cream (nothing wrong with that, its just how life goes)

[vertigoink]

If people don't like the CAC figure, they'll unleash hell on Scott for having picked it (though he only gets one vote among half a dozen if i remember correctly - but since he's the only one that'll publicly be seen, he'll get all the blow back personally). Of course, if a well known org member wins, then it'll all be peaches and cream (nothing wrong with that, its just how life goes)

Believe me Ealo, if the design is horrible and someone notable did it from the .ORG you will still see a huge amount of tasteful critiques about the figure versus the harsher reaction for MS and SLL.

[Sword2Blanket]

Personally, I think even if the figure isn't up to everyone's expectations, the winner will be embraced just because he or she is a fellow fan. Oh sure, there'll be those who think or even say that their design was better, but I still think the winner as a person will be well recieved and duly congratulated especially if he or she is an orger.

[Prahvus]

No matter if it's praises or critiques, they are about a FIGURE, not about a PERSON.

If I really likje Draego-Man, it's because of his cool look.

If I really dislike Mighty Spector or Vykron, it's because I don't like their look. That's as simple and as straightforward as that, and that's the way it's gonna go with the CAC winner as well.

[Benedict Judas Hel]

My Question : How are we going to handle the fan reaction to the CAC contest winner?

If I like the CAC winner, I'll say so. If I don't like it, I'll say so. I don't care about other people's opinions. They have no bearing on my joy or disappointment in a design.

[Skeletortilla]

If I won, I wouldn't care if nobody liked my design, because I'd have a figure and they wouldn't.

[Seamatty]

Unfortunately people here don't really articulate their "opinions" very well. It's always "that's trash, or junk" nothing like "i personally don't like this figure".