But that's always the goal here. Make no mistake, the goal is TO SELL TOYS™. It's not some creative artistic decision, it's a business. Mattel doesn't care about "ruining the story or characters". All Mattel wants to do is throw out possible ideas of awesome sounding characters so that they can make future figures out of them, if the demand is there. Fans want Mattel to finish the vintage line and tell awesome stories; Mattel wants to keep getting our money as long as possible.Originally Posted by jibernish
Their priorities DEFINITELY do not match that of the fans.
For the guys who want better videos: why not chip in, buy a decent camera, and have someone deliver it to Scott at SDCC?
And tell him to hurry up and make Ram Man while you're there. The answer to "would you rather have ____ or Ram Man?" is always 'Ram Man,' so stop asking and make Ram Man. I'd rather have Ram Man than the Wind Raider, but which has Mattel made?
Feedback thread: http://www.he-man.org/forums/boards/...d.php?t=191923
The problem seems to be that when it gets time to ask Scott questions at the panel, fans choose to ...lose their gumption as opposed to realizing that asking vital questions in such a public arena would force someone to finally answer for them.
I know...I HATED it when TG mentioned that the Mattel execs were present at one panel at NYTF 2012. It would have been one helluva time to ask him about 200X heads and let those execs know in their faces that the fans want them in Classics! I don't mean make a fool out of yourself or anything, but to tell him and his bosses face-to-face "We are the customers and we want this in Classics". The second he brings up "200X is retired" boo the crap out of him so that his bosses will hear! Unfortunately, fans tend to not be as fearsome as they are online.
That's why I was hoping I could have attended but with my grandfather having passed it's just not a good time right now to leave my family. Lord knows I'm the last person that has ever been considered bashful when giving his opinion lol!I know...I HATED it when TG mentioned that the Mattel execs were present at one panel at NYTF 2012. It would have been one helluva time to ask him about 200X heads and let those execs know in their faces that the fans want them in Classics! I don't mean make a fool out of yourself or anything, but to tell him and his bosses face-to-face "We are the customers and we want this in Classics". Unfortunately, fans tend to not be as fearsome as they are online.
Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt. "It had to be said" was uttered by my friends one minute, then they distanced themselves from me the next. It's not all roses to speak your mind. Just be constructive in your approach.
You're absolutely right. I don't fool myself for a moment. But Mattel's approach is a short term approach, for short term profit. Had they taken a long-term approach, more akin to what Lucas did, I would suggest that Mattel would have sold a lot more toys and other related product over the years. Mattel's tunnel vision on toys only is why they don't even have the Filmation rights. All they cared about were the toys. It's short-sighted.
I think there is a middle ground, where story can be nurtured and made priority AND toy sales will increase as a natural result. Mattel doesn't take that approach. They take the short term approach, which means they are always reacting to situations to squeeze a buck out of it, without concern of whether it will help them in making money in the future.
From a business sense, the best way to make as much money as possible is to align their priorities with the fans' priorities. All their money comes from US. If they give us what we want, we'll give them money. And it's best to think about what fans want not just this year, but the next year, and the next year. And if you don't have a strong backbone of a story to hold all that together, it just starts falling apart and you spend your resources trying to patch things up.
Mattel is in the business of selling toys, always will be and its fine by me but creative, colorful stories and characters need not be sacrificed to achieve this goal as it has been proven before with Filmation, NA and MYP. Each of these were new interpretations of MOTU introduced to sell toys first and foremost. What TG is attempting to do is fine by me in trying to create a uniform story using the different incarnations of the MOTU mythos. Some things will sit well, while others are an outcry to most fans.
Even I don't really care about the bios, I do like the expansion of Dare, son of He-Man and I'm glad its included in MOTUC and not some outlandish new idea in its place. This is the creative, artistic yet very delicate direction he (TG) should be taking and not make a mess of it. If he steers it off course and changes too many things and goes all "god" on MOTU, IT WILL explode in his face and the fans and potential new fans will leave and the business side of it will fail, not good to the execs and their stock.
1) Killing MAA and Sorceress, robbing Teela of both her parents during a war was a highly bold move which was badly executed in the bios
He should have left their fates pending for future bios to increase the suspense
2) Making TMS and SLL, central core characters in both the past and future of MOTU was a vanity move
pure and simple, as it shows a forced push for them to be included all around the MOTUC universe as a whole "in any time". (why not
Photog, Draego-Man, Vykron or the Star Sisters?)
3) Ignoring anyone else's involvement from the "present" story (besides He-Man as of now) in this future storyline. No other bio has them
anywhere near King He-Man..(has Teela been mentioned as the queen yet?)
Does Mattel want another little bubbled up universe of MOTU for a few years every decade to squeeze a few bucks out of....or something that can and I hope will bring this property to a higher level like other brands (Batman, Avengers, X-Men) one day and have the flexibility to change yet keep its core intact? A good business company seeks longevity with their product and makes alterations to keep it alive, which they should be doing and it does look promising with the right's they have acquired so far. They must listen to the fanbase (the $$$$$) and realize what it is we all want with this property, which is quite simple - great toys, stories and service. The 30th Anniversary of MOTU should be the kick-off point to greater things, which as of yet, still hasn't been kicked off right.
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I very much like what you have to say here. I just want them to finish one of the half dozen stories they've already started before going off on such a wild tangent as alternate histories/universes. I nominate Granamyr the wise to put a stop to TMS before the fabric of time is broken and things spin out of control.Mattel is in the business of selling toys, always will be and its fine by me but creative, colorful stories and characters need not be sacrificed to achieve this goal as it has been proven before with Filmation, NA and MYP. Each of these were new interpretations of MOTU introduced to sell toys first and foremost. What TG is attempting to do is fine by me in trying to create a uniform story using the different incarnations of the MOTU mythos. Some things will sit well, while others are an outcry to most fans.
Even I don't really care about the bios, I do like the expansion of Dare, son of He-Man and I'm glad its included in MOTUC and not some outlandish new idea in its place. This is the creative, artistic yet very delicate direction he (TG) should be taking and not make a mess of it. If he steers it off course and changes too many things and goes all "god" on MOTU, IT WILL explode in his face and the fans and potential new fans will leave and the business side of it will fail, not good to the execs and their stock.
1) Killing MAA and Sorceress, robbing Teela of both her parents during a war was a highly bold move which was badly executed in the bios
He should have left their fates pending for future bios to increase the suspense
2) Making TMS and SLL, central core characters in both the past and future of MOTU was a vanity move
pure and simple, as it shows a forced push for them to be included all around the MOTUC universe as a whole "in any time". (why not
Photog, Draego-Man, Vykron or the Star Sisters?)
3) Ignoring anyone else's involvement from the "present" story (besides He-Man as of now) in this future storyline. No other bio has them
anywhere near King He-Man..(has Teela been mentioned as the queen yet?)
Does Mattel want another little bubbled up universe of MOTU for a few years every decade to squeeze a few bucks out of....or something that can and I hope will bring this property to a higher level like other brands (Batman, Avengers, X-Men) one day and have the flexibility to change yet keep its core intact? A good business company seeks longevity with their product and makes alterations to keep it alive, which they should be doing and it does look promising with the right's they have acquired so far. They must listen to the fanbase (the $$$$$) and realize what it is we all want with this property, which is quite simple - great toys, stories and service. The 30th Anniversary of MOTU should be the kick-off point to greater things, which as of yet, still hasn't been kicked off right.
I think the difference between the cartoon and the toyline is that Filmation, Jetlag and MYP were cartoons. They have to have good or interesting stories to keep selling the toy. The toys can be story-based, but mostly sell based on looks and playability.
I dunno about that. MAA and the Sorceress died in the bios. I'M not held to them. MAA and the Sorceress are alive and well in my household. Just because they died in the bios, or any other unlikable plot doesn't turn me off from collecting MOTUC.Even I don't really care about the bios, I do like the expansion of Dare, son of He-Man and I'm glad its included in MOTUC and not some outlandish new idea in its place. This is the creative, artistic yet very delicate direction he (TG) should be taking and not make a mess of it. If he steers it off course and changes too many things and goes all "god" on MOTU, IT WILL explode in his face and the fans and potential new fans will leave and the business side of it will fail, not good to the execs and their stock.
1) Killing MAA and Sorceress, robbing Teela of both her parents during a war was a highly bold move which was badly executed in the bios. He should have left their fates pending for future bios to increase the suspense
Draego-Man IS a time-traveller of a sort...He did it the hard way. He lived from Preternia to present day.2) Making TMS and SLL, central core characters in both the past and future of MOTU was a vanity move pure and simple, as it shows a forced push for them to be included all around the MOTUC universe as a whole "in any time". (why not Photog, Draego-Man, Vykron or the Star Sisters?)
Mighty Spector may be a vanity move, but Laser-Lot is probably business oriented. Thanks to TG's friendship with Geoff Johns, we probably got a six issue limited series because of it. Should the book do well, we might get an ongoing series.
That timeline has just been introduced between Spector and Laser-Lot. Besides, do we want Frosta and Mekaneck's bios filled with King He-Man stuff?3) Ignoring anyone else's involvement from the "present" story (besides He-Man as of now) in this future storyline. No other bio has them
anywhere near King He-Man..(has Teela been mentioned as the queen yet?)
What greater things do you mean? The 30th bios suggest that MOTU has more story to tell beyond New Adventures, meaning MOTU can continue beyond the vintage characters as if it never went away.Does Mattel want another little bubbled up universe of MOTU for a few years every decade to squeeze a few bucks out of....or something that can and I hope will bring this property to a higher level like other brands (Batman, Avengers, X-Men) one day and have the flexibility to change yet keep its core intact? A good business company seeks longevity with their product and makes alterations to keep it alive, which they should be doing and it does look promising with the right's they have acquired so far. They must listen to the fanbase (the $$$$$) and realize what it is we all want with this property, which is quite simple - great toys, stories and service. The 30th Anniversary of MOTU should be the kick-off point to greater things, which as of yet, still hasn't been kicked off right.
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"Take that haters!"
The cartoons had more to add in depth to the stories and the introduction of new characters, even in one-shots. Introducing a new action figure first before a background to him/her can still create golden opportunities to make these characters "pop", which hasn't really happened due to the structure of the bios (on some of the characters) and yet other .org members have created vast improvements in their origins and storylines which make us, the fans, gravitate to them more. A brief bio can make or break a figure, which other people have stated is a deciding factor in buying the product.
About the direction of the bio regarding MAA and Sorceress, I said "IF" he steers it off course and these stories bleed into other media (comics, animation) can turn off some fans away from it, just like NA turned off some (most) fans from Filmation.
SLL as a character was still heavily spread, too much mustard on the sandwich if you ask me
Frosta and Meckaneck? Maybe TG will kill them off too in their bios, which we can all discard
We already knew it could and would expand with the MOTUC toylines (concepts, prototypes, PoG) I'm referring to the business side of Mattel, not to allow this 30th anniversary be a one time deal and let it fade it away and sit in the dust afterwards. 6 new characters is not, in my opinion, enough as a celebration of 30 years of MOTU. The comic, however, is a great thing for it and this is what I mean by it, to keep it alive and flowing which I do appreciate people like Scott in helping achieve this (as much as I have criticized some of his "creative" choices)
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fans ... plural ???In all seriousness, it is flattering to see fans loving this character enough to ask for variants. None planned right now, but if enough fans want to see this- you never know! Take that haters!
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I would buy this version in a heartbeat:
The Palace Guard colours are probably how it should have been in the first place, tbh.
Maybe with only a newly sculpted snake head to make him variant worthy
.........and by enough, does Scott mean the same amount it would take to make Illumina into a figure? GOOD LUCK!!
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OMG! The mere thought of a Mighty Spector variant... and the fact that fans are clamoring for one is just... amazing.
For me, Mighty Spector is unique addition to MOTU, so one is enough..
bahahahaha!!!Maybe with only a newly sculpted snake head to make him variant worthy
Though I must admit, the green is golden is better.
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Funny Fan Fic: Meet the Rea-Por! (Heroic & Villainous Deaths) & The Mighty Spector's FIRST EVER FAN-FIC
& not so funny Fan Fic: War of Attrition
Trade feedback & WANTED: Bow/SLL style boots!
I'd advise Scott as a customer and as a fan to really watch what he posts about this issue at the moment as it's getting silly at this point. Your character sold well Scott (from your own estimation) and you got your Green Lantern D list Sir Dorks a Lot figure in as well- now is the time to be humble and let it go.
He may push his Spectormobile in a beast slot and the Time Cave is sure to follow in a movie year LOLSeems to me like his creativity has finally peaked and now it will most assuredly begin to creak...it already has.
*I'm sure he was joking about this ridiculous notion of a time car, he must have been...right?
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As long as he doesn't try to claim the Talon Fighter is one of the vehicles used by Spector then we have no problem...yet!He may push his Spectormobile in a beast slot and the Time Cave is sure to follow in a movie year LOL
*I'm sure he was joking about this ridiculous notion of a time car, he must have been...right?
Yes! He should tread well with all these things to preserve the MOTU essence, not to promote his own superhero subplot world within MOTUAs long as he doesn't try to claim the Talon Fighter is one of the vehicles used by Spector then we have no problem...yet!
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Is anyone else getting tired of Ram Man being dangled over their heads like this? Anytime anyone asks about something that requires a lot of tooling, we get this "Well, yeah, we could do that, but it would cost you a fully tooled figure spot. Do you want that or Ram Man?" answer.Doing an all heads pack takes as much resources as a fully tool'd figure. So the question is, would fans want a fully tool'd figure like Ram Man, or a Scott Neitlich unhelmeted head for Ram Man. I think Ram Man wins, but that is just me.
Of course most people don't want to give up their Ram Man spot. But, me personally, in some of these cases I would have no problem at all giving up a spot of someone on the same popularity level of say, Carnivus or Gygor.
Not that I'm advocating a second Spector head, by the way.
I am, I dont want Ram man at all! so that answer REALLY Cheeses me off!
I may just be a Gay Pop fan...but I am also the one who wants ALL of the Figures, who wants this line to continue and who is putting my money where my mouth is....are you doing the same?
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Yes, and not just Ram Man, the ultimatum answers are pure junk. He is like a cruel dictator carrying out his rule with an iron fist.Is anyone else getting tired of Ram Man being dangled over their heads like this? Anytime anyone asks about something that requires a lot of tooling, we get this "Well, yeah, we could do that, but it would cost you a fully tooled figure spot. Do you want that or Ram Man?" answer.
Of course most people don't want to give up their Ram Man spot. But, me personally, in some of these cases I would have no problem at all giving up a spot of someone on the same popularity level of say, Carnivus or Gygor.
Not that I'm advocating a second Spector head, by the way.
Hands Ka a flame shield and hides behind a reinforced steel wall lol!
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