Spikor and Laser-Lot carded and bios

**kylun flac** · June 12, 2012, 06:20pm

if spector needs the suite to time travel how could he bring back another person without them wearing a time suit also?

**Ravenskarr** · June 12, 2012, 06:25pm

Originally Posted by kylun flac

if spector needs the suite to time travel how could he bring back another person without them wearing a time suit also?

That is a very good point. TG did say that TMS wore a mask because exposed flesh could not make it in the time vortex.

But then, didn't TG also say something about a ship or vehicle that TMS would also use to travel in time? Maybe he brought SLL back in this time ship.

**slackrguy** · June 12, 2012, 06:36pm

Originally Posted by Ravenskarr

But then, didn't TG also say something about a ship or vehicle that TMS would also use to travel in time? Maybe he brought SLL back in this time ship.

if it is this....
881-NB-The-Tardis.jpg
...I will throw a fit.

**Nekk-ra** · June 12, 2012, 06:37pm

How exactly did TMS get Sir Waste-a-Slot (I love that Sword2Blanket

) into the future? Did they jump Preternian He-man and steal the cosmic key? Doesn't Scott have some sort of story outline available to double check these things? He went out his way to state the limits of TMS's abilities, then two months later puts out a bio that contradicts such statements. The things one does for bromance.

**Crusader** · June 12, 2012, 06:38pm

Originally Posted by Alexx

That's what I was thinking, but then I thought: How awesome would it be to have this grizzled OLD King He-Man? I mean, still magically powered of course, since he wouldn't be able to do anything at that age otherwise. But not immortal - just as big and muscular as ever, but sporting this big grey beard and an ancient and wizened air about him. That's the future He-Man I'm thinking of....

... wearing the jeweled crown of Eternia upon a troubled brow

**Ravenskarr** · June 12, 2012, 06:49pm

Originally Posted by slackrguy

if it is this....
881-NB-The-Tardis.jpg
...I will throw a fit.

LOL. Me too. Rest assured, TMS has never seen a police box, or if he has, that could be a very sad day for us MOTU fans.

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Originally Posted by Snake Hunter

Yes, I like the idea, Sir Laser-Lot was saved from death by Spector.

I sense that Mighty Spector and Sir Laser-Lot are romantically involved somehow. They fell in love when they were time travelling.

The romantic touch! I like this and would endorse this idea in the new bios.

**Alexx** · June 12, 2012, 07:00pm

Originally Posted by Crusader

... wearing the jeweled crown of Eternia upon a troubled brow

Ha! Yeah, hunched over with a hand on his chin. All his old armors and harnesses hanging on the wall around his throne, Battle Cat's headgear sitting on the throne's back (I assume Battle Cat didn't get as lucky with the aging). Man, this is too vivid in my mind!

**Ravenskarr** · June 12, 2012, 07:12pm

Originally Posted by Darkspecter

This...still effects history. If Sir Laser-Lot wasn't pulled out of the past, he probably would have had a wife and children. They would have children, their children would have children and so on. So...his being pulled out of time prevented hundreds if not thousands of people from existing. That's a pretty big change in time.

Not if he fell in love with TMS. I think then, if this had happened, him being pulled out of time, as well as his contribution to his family tree would have been a forgone conclusion, that is, of course, if TMS and SLL decided to adopt

**The Blue Beetle** · June 12, 2012, 07:25pm

"Chivalry, Justice..." and they forgot "and the Eternian way!"

**AdultCollector** · June 12, 2012, 07:45pm

Originally Posted by Kevenn

But if that was the case, why does Mighty Spector have to wear his purple time-travelling GimpSuit in order to time-travel?

The device he uses to travel through time was reverse engineered from the cosmic key. Keeping in mind that the story is created to help sell an existing action figure design and is not a literary masterpiece in and of itself, the requirement of the suit could be a result of this new device not possessing the same level of sophistication and power as the original key. It is much smaller than the original. Also apparently the new key runs off of lime Jell-O and ...

**TheFallen** · June 12, 2012, 08:07pm

Originally Posted by Eternian Poet

It's like trying to ignore someone poking you in the eye. You want them to go away, but they won't. So if you don't slap them down, they might pierce your brain.

Why wouldn't you just walk away?

**shadowfall1976** · June 12, 2012, 08:33pm

Originally Posted by slackrguy

if it is this....
881-NB-The-Tardis.jpg
...I will throw a fit.

Bill & Ted > than Spector

Originally Posted by TheFallen

Why wouldn't you just walk away?

If someone was poking me in the eye, I'd be kicking them in the jewels.

**TheFallen** · June 12, 2012, 08:40pm

Originally Posted by shadowfall1976

If someone was poking me in the eye, I'd be kicking them in the jewels.

Didn't you grow up in the 80's? Sure, the PSA's never directly said don't kick someone in the jewels if they are poking you in the eye but I am pretty sure it was implied

**maltesefalcon** · June 12, 2012, 10:06pm

is there anywhere in the bios that said spector was brought back by king he-man? as far as i know he fell into a random portal (perhaps the one that took evil-lyn to the future after abandoning skeletor)

as for laser-lot people forget he man is about his 30's during the 2nd ultimate battleground clamp-champ was much older when he became man-at-arms so when he-man is in his 60's (dare was given the power as he-man was too old) clamp champ will be dead or retired

Originally Posted by Alexx

Ha! Yeah, hunched over with a hand on his chin. All his old armors and harnesses hanging on the wall around his throne, Battle Cat's headgear sitting on the throne's back (I assume Battle Cat didn't get as lucky with the aging). Man, this is too vivid in my mind!

if i remember the pitch correct battlecat became dare's steed and the crow became empowered too and they both competed over who was the best!

the king he-man i have 2 theorys one is that during the new adventures era he give up being adam and is he-man permanantly and they call him that like they call everyone else by their code names

or my own theory that the people of eternia were too fooled by the lazy coward act and refused to allow adam to assume the throne therefore adam had to take it as he-man to make a peaceful transition from the house of randor to the house of grayskull (using his ancestors name)

**Nemisythe** · June 12, 2012, 10:09pm

Ok, lemme just start by saying...

Spikor's Bio: Like it although I would've liked that his spikes were something more natural, but it's not a major turn off. Some blacksmith's are actually well versed in the art of fighting, which is what helps them make weapons specifically for their clients. (if anyone ever saw the BBC Camelot Merlin visit's a smith who makes Arthur a sword based on his physical attributes and skills.) The idea of him being cursed and put in spikes, can be something of a poetic type of justice based on what he did (maybe he was trying to steal some enchanted metal, armor weapon...?) Now the idea that this trident is mystical, just how many items are going to be uniquely magical on this planet? I would think at some point the characters are just what they are unique and not necessarily always magic being involved. But all in all, I can deal with it.

Sir Lazer Lot: Well Nice attempt to throw Dare in there and get some heat off the character and some possible acceptance. Just my thought with the whole time travel well, let's just say butterfly effect??? But hey then again since the Dare Bible was just a submission by Lou Scheimer Productions I guess that tale can be highly readjusted. But this is what I'm thinking....
Lazer Lot has no name - thus he can be removed from the past cause he clearly has no known ending history, so maybe you can get away with this.
To go to the future to be a MAA.... pass! Although I feel Duncan at this point should remain deceased, I don't think Champ should be either; that's because I always saw Clamp Champ (The Heroic Master of Capture) more of a bounty hunter and once that Battle Ground fiasco was done, he went back to doing his thing! Now I'm not to keen on my NA canon but I would vote for Master Sebrian as the person to provide training and knowledge for Dare.

Now a reason I can see them He-man and Spector going back to Preternia (cause I will look pass the fact he is a hired instructor) is maybe not bring SLL back but to recover the Gem of Tamadge from his armor???? maybe this Gem holds a certain power that was displayed and used during in which King He-man feels that they could use it to their advantage in the future, and since there's no record of SLL maybe the Gem mysteriously vanishes to never be found. It's not like we hear anything of this Gem through out the canon so far, YES?

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Originally Posted by Ravenskarr

That is a very good point. TG did say that TMS wore a mask because exposed flesh could not make it in the time vortex.

But then, didn't TG also say something about a ship or vehicle that TMS would also use to travel in time? Maybe he brought SLL back in this time ship.

Could it be the Talon Fighter???

**Marvelous0ne** · June 12, 2012, 11:43pm

Originally Posted by Angel-T

Wow it's great to see that She-Ra's son has made it into the MOTUC Cannon. It would be great if Dare ultimately ends up weilding the combined sword of power and protection to honour both his mother's & his uncle/adoptive fathers powers! Of course this will probably mean Scott will kill She-Ra off, or send her to some interdimensional prison to explane how Adora and Sea Kawk end up being seporated from their baby boy. This is something I have sadly been expecting scott to do at some point with these bios. Spikor looks great, seriously I can't wait to get my grubby hands on him!

Who said that Dare was Adora's son? Wasn't that all fan speculation?

**He-Boy** · June 13, 2012, 12:33am

Originally Posted by Skystalker

Here is something that I just don't understand: Why is everyone so worried that these 30th anniversary characters are going to be major players in any movie that comes out? Why do we fear that they will be used heavily in future media?...

Originally Posted by Wulff

And, the heck are you talking about " compete int eh market"? If you dont' like a couple characters, you know there are dozens of other toys in this line right? Why would anyone base any media around He-man in the future instead of He-man in the present? And certainly it'd be idiocy to think anyone is considering a King He-man era film...

Originally Posted by Weasel

I don't know what everyone is going crazy on SLL bio. This is just the Classics story line. Its not set in stone as the main MOTU storyline, just the Classics story line. There are so many different story lines in MOTU. Remember when Skeletor was from another dimension? If you don't like the bios that's fine and if you do...good. Definitely not the end of the world.

Sorry guys (and anyone else who has posted similar), but you ought to be more worried than you are IMO. From the keyboard of Mr. Guru himself:

I have noted several times that one of the directions from management for the 30th line was to use the new characters to move the brand forward and open up new possiblities for future story lines and figures!

If Scott has his way, these new characters are the future of MOTU. Why would he not push for Spector to permanently become a Master?

**Hellvertz** · June 13, 2012, 12:43am

To be honest I like the figures alot, but damn with these bios... I'm relly looking forward for the new MOTU comic to tell a different and more interesting story, including new characters like DraegoMan, Sir LazerLot, Spector and Photog.

**Count Judas** · June 13, 2012, 12:45am

Originally Posted by He-Boy

Sorry Weasel and anyone else who has posted similar, but you ought to be more worried than you are IMO. From the keyboard of Mr. Guru himself:

I have noted several times that one of the directions from management for the 30th line was to use the new characters to move the brand forward and open up new possiblities for future story lines and figures!

If Scott has his way, these new characters are the future of MOTU. Why would he not push for Spector to permanently become a Master?

He's having it his way so far....Looks like he's implementing his own story and characters using the He-Ro: Son of He-Man as a template.

Kay-La replaced by Sir Laser-Lot
Man-E-Faces replaced by Spector

2 down, 3 to go...but he'll probably keep Rammy there though and make stuff up as he goes along. It takes some seeds to grow a tree and the roots are beginning to show with SLL and TMS's bios.

**Darkspecter** · June 13, 2012, 12:56am

Originally Posted by Marvelous0ne

Who said that Dare was Adora's son? Wasn't that all fan speculation?

Lou Scheimer. The official He-Ro: Son of He-Man bible says he remembers the "beautiful woman and strong man who were his human parents" and he remembers her voice and wisdoms she passed on to him, but they seem like dreams.

It also hints that they might be related and they and the audience would be shocked when they discover the truth.

Lou Scheimer did an interview and confirmed Adora and Sea Hawk were Dare's parents. I don't recall where it is, but it's just like the interview that was done with the person who wrote "The Search For Keldor" and confirmed that Skeletor was going to be Keldor.

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Originally Posted by He-Boy

Sorry guys (and anyone else who has posted similar), but you ought to be more worried than you are IMO. From the keyboard of Mr. Guru himself:

I have noted several times that one of the directions from management for the 30th line was to use the new characters to move the brand forward and open up new possiblities for future story lines and figures!

That's....distressing. That's not what Toyguru told us initially. He said that management required the 30th anniversary characters to help fill plot holes/answer questions in the bios. TG even said that the 30th characters would not become "main" characters. Sounds like the opposite is going to happen now.

The Mighty Spector and the Masters of the Universe, here we come!

**MegaGearMax** · June 13, 2012, 01:05am

Originally Posted by He-Boy

Sorry guys (and anyone else who has posted similar), but you ought to be more worried than you are IMO. From the keyboard of Mr. Guru himself:

I have noted several times that one of the directions from management for the 30th line was to use the new characters to move the brand forward and open up new possiblities for future story lines and figures!

If Scott has his way, these new characters are the future of MOTU. Why would he not push for Spector to permanently become a Master?

I think you guys are expecting the worst, but it's not as bad as it seems. It is true...the new character's bios DO expand the world of MOTU.

Draego-Man introduces the Great Black Wizard, Granamyr and the Dragons of Darksmoke as another faction in the Great Wars.
Mighty Spector introduces the era of King He-Man to the MOTUC mythos.
Sir Laser-Lot introduces Dare and the Time Agents.

**man-at-work** · June 13, 2012, 01:17am

Originally Posted by Darkspecter

Lou Scheimer. The official He-Ro: Son of He-Man bible says he remembers the "beautiful woman and strong man who were his human parents" and he remembers her voice and wisdoms she passed on to him, but they seem like dreams.

It also hints that they might be related and they and the audience would be shocked when they discover the truth.

Lou Scheimer did an interview and confirmed Adora and Sea Hawk were Dare's parents. I don't recall where it is, but it's just like the interview that was done with the person who wrote "The Search For Keldor" and confirmed that Skeletor was going to be Keldor.

That beautiful woman and strong man could be Teela and He-Man, and it would make sense to create the paradox that they adopted their own son. Seeig She-Ra and Sea Hawk in those pages is a bit obscure IMO. Well, if She-Ra is his mother, how could Sea Hawk win over Bow? Not fair!

**Darkspecter** · June 13, 2012, 02:03am

Originally Posted by man-at-work

That beautiful woman and strong man could be Teela and He-Man, and it would make sense to create the paradox that they adopted their own son. Seeig She-Ra and Sea Hawk in those pages is a bit obscure IMO. Well, if She-Ra is his mother, how could Sea Hawk win over Bow? Not fair!

Lou Scheimer of Filmation and Lou Scheimer Productions (which wanted to do the He-Ro: Son of He-Man story) said Adora and Sea Hawk were Dare's biological parents in an interview. The pages from the bible just show the hints that were already there.

Also, Sea Hawk has always won over Bow. Watch the episodes Sea Hawk is in. I LOVE the Locket.

Bow's infatuated with She-Ra. The feeling isn't mutual.

They're just good friends. Sea Hawk and Adora are meant to be, just as Adam and Teela are.

I really hope Toyguru doesn't do as some fear: make Dare someone else's kid and kill She-Ra off. So far most of the other powerful, female characters in MOTU have been killed off or pushed out of the story:

- Sorceress: murdered
- Queen Marlena: left Eternia for Earth
- Evil-Lyn: stripped of her powers and runs off to the future

So far the only main females that are "in the game" are She-Ra, Sorceress Teela, Catra and Shadow Weaver.

**Dragonblaster** · June 13, 2012, 02:16am

Originally Posted by shadowfall1976

Bill & Ted > than Spector

That picture is from Doctor Who, not Bill & Ted.

But you're right - they ARE better

**phantom1592** · June 13, 2012, 02:36am

I honestly don't see the issue with SLL replacing Clamp Champ...

it's not in the MAIN story, it's in the FUTURE story. And Clamp Champ wasn't PART of that story ANYWAY...

As for Spector and SLL being the all new Masters.... I think they look better and less offensive than ANY of THESE....

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As for Spikor, I LOVE the cursed armor concept. One of thing that I disagree with a lot of people about was the number of 'races' on Eternia...

I HATE having all these guys coming from their own 'species' of monsters... HATE it.

When I was a kid, it never even OCCURED to me that there could be a jungle full of Beastmen, or an Ocean full of lobster men... we only really saw ONE clawful... and he was a terrifying MONSTER...

To me they were always magical creations/alterations by Skeletor. When Stinkor or Clawful or Two Bad showed up... The villagers didn't ask for Identification to see if it was THE beast man... or just a random visitor from the vine jungle...

One of my favorite things about MOTU... was there were NO mooks. No Army builders... EVERY bad guy had a name... and a function. Some were cooler than others... but in MYP, nearly EVERY crab monster was cooler then Clawful... it took away a LOT of my love for the character. If ONE clawful dies, then Skeletor just recruits another....

Blahh...

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