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    The one thing I'd urge people to do is give Red Shadow a chance- it's a really cool concept for a character when you see it from the front.

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    sounds like a particularly MOTU name for an ancient history Preternia character. It sounds very 90s DC Comics. I guess I look forward to seeing the design.

    Its a pity none of the council from either MYP or MVC appear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EtherianChronicles View Post
    If what he's saying is true, then the suits don't know why most of us collect this line.

    It isn't for them to invent new, silly-named characters. It's to celebrate the many dozens we already have.

    I have zero interest in newly created characters, they don't even exist to me. I consider myself a completest but do not have any of the 30th figures aside from Photog, which is the only one that even approaches MOTU to me. The rest are filler that truly have nothing to do with anything that makes me collect this line.
    I've always thought that the company and the fans don't have the same goals. Mattel's goal isn't to sell all of the old characters and then end the line. For Mattel, it's a business...they want fans to continue buying MOTUC as a constant toyline.

    It sucks that we will have more new characters than NA characters.

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    I'm definitely ok with MOTUC introducing new characters, but I think maybe they need to do so a bit slower. Draego-Man is great. Spector has grown on me a bit and at least has had some backstory around him. SLL really hasn't had the chance to do anything for me but so far his character doesn't really appeal to me visually, is another knight (when there are already existing characters like Extendar, the red knight, and General Sunder), and doesn't have much of a story that makes me care about him.

    Most of the other characters are just filler on a page at this point. The original minicomics introduced new characters, but did so more gradually and gave those new characters a chance to shine. If every new character came with a minicomic of some sort to help cement the character's place, I imagine they'd be more well received because the minicomic would show that they have been more thought out.

    Bring us new characters, but I think one or two a year would be fine. Take time and have different folks work on them. Really make them standout rather than just drawing them in a group shot. Give fans a reason to want to learn more about them. I think that was part of the reason that so many of the minicomic characters and characters like Illumina are so demanded: they hinted at something larger that was truly expanding the story.
    Whenever a new character is introduced, there are certain things you look for: Intriguing appearance, the ability to fill a role that isn't already filled, and a good story around the characeter. When introducing a new character into an existing property, I think at least two of those things need to be present to make a new character desirable.
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    Personally I'm not so against new charactes, but men, just to be realistic, look at what they have done with 30th anniversary figures: we can save only Drage-man, the rest is pure disappointment. So, when you are not good enough in what you're asked to do, it's better give up.

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    I'm REALLY hoping there are no NEW characters (post MYP) in the line next year. We have made plenty of noise this year to let Scott and Matty know that the line is lacking in terms of the Great Rebellion and both New Adventures factions so continuing to invent new characters and mostly avoiding the historical POP and NA is very upsetting.

    Can someone at Comic Con ask for more clarification on what Scott means when he was pushing new characters in this thread?

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    I for one say bring on the new characters! Keeps the line from stagnating, in my opinion.
    Photog is here! thank you, Mattel!

    Now how about some mini-comics love (like Lodar, Geldor, Dakon......)? And Mermista?

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    Quote Originally Posted by urbanmyth View Post
    I'm REALLY hoping there are no NEW characters (post MYP) in the line next year. We have made plenty of noise this year to let Scott and Matty know that the line is lacking in terms of the Great Rebellion and both New Adventures factions so continuing to invent new characters and mostly avoiding the historical POP and NA is very upsetting.

    Can someone at Comic Con ask for more clarification on what Scott means when he was pushing new characters in this thread?
    Yeah....you're not going to be pleased next year then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by urbanmyth View Post
    I'm REALLY hoping there are no NEW characters (post MYP) in the line next year. We have made plenty of noise this year to let Scott and Matty know that the line is lacking in terms of the Great Rebellion and both New Adventures factions so continuing to invent new characters and mostly avoiding the historical POP and NA is very upsetting.

    Can someone at Comic Con ask for more clarification on what Scott means when he was pushing new characters in this thread?
    Are ALL the POP figures on Mattel's roadmap or is that map specific to MOTU? Just not sure if that has ever been mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wundarwarrior View Post
    Are ALL the POP figures on Mattel's roadmap or is that map specific to MOTU? Just not sure if that has ever been mentioned.
    That's a good question- I'd assume only the ones from vintage were initially since they didn't have Filmation rights. I know Scott said when they got the rights he went back and changed things to slot in tentative Filmation characters though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vertigoink View Post
    Yeah....you're not going to be pleased next year then.
    Yikes! Even with all of the Filmation possibilities, Matty still needs to throw a bunch of new concepts out there too? Maybe they will be better new concepts than those in issue #2, but unless there is also a big push to get more Great Rebellion (and to a lessor extent NA) characters out there too, I'm strongly considering pulling back some of my Matty dollars next year. Matty DC burned me this year with the "everything is wrong with this picture" Red Rocket figure and more new concept Masters with out a lot more new Rebels, Mutants and Protectors will similarly burn me on the MOTUC side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wundarwarrior View Post
    Are ALL the POP figures on Mattel's roadmap or is that map specific to MOTU? Just not sure if that has ever been mentioned.
    He's answered this recently in the June Toyguru thread. All of the vintage MOTU, POP and NA characters are on the roadmap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by urbanmyth View Post
    Yikes! Even with all of the Filmation possibilities, Matty still needs to throw a bunch of new concepts out there too? Maybe they will be better new concepts than those in issue #2, but unless there is also a big push to get more Great Rebellion (and to a lessor extent NA) characters out there too, I'm strongly considering pulling back some of my Matty dollars next year. Matty DC burned me this year with the "everything is wrong with this picture" Red Rocket figure and more new concept Masters with out a lot more new Rebels, Mutants and Protectors will similarly burn me on the MOTUC side.
    Oh I wasn't being serious I meant that sarcastically- I have a feeling there will be lots (2 or 3) Filmation characters at least and I'm thinking POP will be better represented too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by super-munkyboy View Post
    Agreed. Look how many new characters and races 200x brought to the table. Things need to evolve not grow stagnant.
    My concern is that there are just *so* many. The reason characters like Huntara, Shokoti and Evilseed are so in-demand is that they had focus placed upon them. I'd much rather learn about the individuals' strengths, weaknesses and - crucially - their character, not just have them painted across a few fight scenes.

    I'd love for a comic series to continue and for us to learn more about characters we've already met, but haven't spent much time with (the above are prime candidates). As it stands, I'm now expecting to see these new 'Powers of Grayskull' characters in the 2013 line...and I just don't want them.

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    Hmmmm...

    Quote Originally Posted by urbanmyth View Post
    I'm REALLY hoping there are no NEW characters (post MYP) in the line next year. We have made plenty of noise this year to let Scott and Matty know that the line is lacking in terms of the Great Rebellion and both New Adventures factions so continuing to invent new characters and mostly avoiding the historical POP and NA is very upsetting.

    Can someone at Comic Con ask for more clarification on what Scott means when he was pushing new characters in this thread?
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    Yeah....you're not going to be pleased next year then.
    Okay, should we call it then? New Characters Sub to take the place of the 30th Anni?
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    Bringing in new characters isnīt a bad thing, nostalgia is a nice thing but fresh air is welcome as well.

    My point here is, please donīt forget the already excisting characters.

    If this
     
    RED SHADOW
    is cool, yes please bring him on.

    Who ever this
     
    BANDWITH is and is he the green guy from the back with the white cape???
    iīm trying to be open but there are just names and a tiny image.

    No backstory, no race explination, no nothing (yet).

    With out new mini comics we wonīt learn much about them especially since a lot of them are preternian characters and there is no KING GRAYSKULL and his masters of preternia series, unless we get a THE MIGHTY SPECTOR AND HIS ADVENTURES comic series and as it looks like itīs most likely we get that than anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpia View Post
    My concern is that there are just *so* many. The reason characters like Huntara, Shokoti and Evilseed are so in-demand is that they had focus placed upon them. I'd much rather learn about the individuals' strengths, weaknesses and - crucially - their character, not just have them painted across a few fight scenes.

    I'd love for a comic series to continue and for us to learn more about characters we've already met, but haven't spent much time with (the above are prime candidates). As it stands, I'm now expecting to see these new 'Powers of Grayskull' characters in the 2013 line...and I just don't want them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vertigoink View Post
    Yeah....you're not going to be pleased next year then.
    Come on dude stop spoiling. I want to be surprised at SDCC not hear about what new characters may be comming just because you got your hands on the artwork for mini comic #3

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    I think what most people are missing here is that the fact that upper management is pushing for new characters to be introduced which is clearly showing 1 of 2 things, that the line is doing well and they want to keep it going and try breathing new life/new stories in to any future potential media with established (no matter how small) characters, or 2, the line in NOT doing so well and they are trying to see if there is potential for a "saving grace" spin off character to pop up.

    All I know is this, 2007 i didn't think we'd ever see the MoTU universe grow and expand in any way shape or form ever again, and now it is.

    I don't care if the names are lack luster. Names like Roboto, Ninjor, Extendar, He-Man, Beast Man, Skeletor, etc aren't really all that incredibly brilliant and creative names at all, so I can forgive the names they've given us. I STILL think Sir-Laser-Lot fits in name wise 100% with the naming scheme of the 80s
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    I hate to be negative but I also really don't see the need for new characters at this point unless a role in the story really calls for it, and for the purpose of this story the roles of the Preternian Masters could have easily been filled by any of these pre-existing characters (well except Hordak):



    I'd also hate to see these new characters get figures before pre-existing fan favourite characters that have never have a figure before (or even ones that have had a figure before) such as, Eldor, Darius, Evilseed, Shokoti, Dactys, Calix, Katrina, Illumina, Lodar, I could go on and on.

    If you must do new characters please, please just leave it to the 4HM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by super-munkyboy View Post
    Agreed. Look how many new characters and races 200x brought to the table. Things need to evolve not grow stagnant.
    I agree fully! This is what is making this a rich and fertile world, capable of supporting many, MANY stories via comics, the big screen, or animation! Keep them coming, but, of course, keep a balance. This is what I think they're shooting for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13977 View Post
    I hate to be negative but I also really don't see the need for new characters at this point unless a role in the story really calls for it, and for the purpose of this story the roles of the Preternian Masters could have easily been filled by any of these pre-existing characters:

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ls_fanart2.jpg

    I'd also hate to see these new characters get figures before pre-existing fan favourite characters that have never have a figure before (or been ones that have had a figure before) such as, Eldor, Darius, Evilseed, Shokoti, Dactys, Calix, Katrina, I could go on and on.

    If you must do new characters please, please just leave it to the 4HM.
    I couldn't agree more! All the characters you mentioned in your post seem worthwhile to release them as a figure. Moreover, your picture shows what I think is essentially missing from almost all the new characters IMO: they don't feel like Preternian characters as opposed the ones in your picture, all of which have this Preternian feel going on.

    I feel the problem is that the list of potential characters that could get a figure seems to get longer and longer each month instead of shorter. Right now it seems to me that MOTUC could run for another 10 years and still we wouldn't have all the vintage, mini comic, Filmation, POP, NA, MVC and MYP fan favourites, let alone the majority of characters that appeared in these media, because Mattel is coming up with so many new things, a lot of which fell out of place and like they belong to a completely different franchise.

    If you hear a name like "Council of Wisdom" it feels like something from the past, something full of secrets from ancient times: Preternia.
    A name like
     
    "Bandwith"
    just doesn't create the same feeling or atmosphere. A guy with that name would make a cool new NA character but he just doesn't sound like a Preternian guy. I really don't understand why the creators of the MOTUC canon seem to feel differently about this.
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    my biggest issue is these are all 90s comic book superhero names. Is it that TG doesn't get how MOTU names work??

    Even a simple
     
    Gladiatarr
    is more MOTU than these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krosfyah View Post
    my biggest issue is these are all 90s comic book superhero names. Is it that TG doesn't get how MOTU names work??

    Even a simple is more MOTU than these.
    Webstor
    Stinkor
    Ninjor
    Skeletor
    Spikor
    Grizzlor
    Dragstor
    Rattlor
    Randor
    Gwildor
    Mosquitor
    Megator
    Gygor
    Gladiator

    I dunno...seems to work fine that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison Carter View Post
    Webstor
    Stinkor
    Ninjor
    Skeletor
    Spikor
    Grizzlor
    Dragstor
    Rattlor
    Randor
    Gwildor
    Mosquitor
    Megator
    Gygor
    Gladiator

    I dunno...seems to work fine that way.
    the difference is that's how you SPELL GLadiator, so like Extendar, instead of Extender (the proper spelling) they put in the A, they could have used the O as well. Dragtsor wasn't dragster,rattlor wasn't rattler etc. so Gladiator, it doesn't make the word a name that's the problem on how it doesn't fit the MOTU naming scheme IMO.
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