JULY 2ND SDCC Most Wanted sale!

[Riddle of Steel]

Well now I feel better knowing someone else is pretty upset by the mysterious tax. They charged me 7% on my purchase plus shipping. It does go against everything I have ever read regarding internet purchases.

After looking in to things a little more, I'm convinced that some one over there REALLY fowled some thing up with the delay of the sale and screwed it up to get things started or it was just mis-handled in the new interface and just now went live after the delay.

You could literally buy a "He-Man" BEFORE the delay *with-out* tax as I personally put it in to log in and proceeded to check-out while fooling around *again* with NO tax and now all of a sudden every thing you attempt to check out adds tax........

O boy.....here we go again. DR = issue central. Wow.....how many orders are screwed up right now if what were talking about is legit.

[Cammor]

I ordered some stuff WWE and He Man.
No Tax on my order.
?

[Gojira101]

Taxes on Orders now? That's it I quit the line. . . . . . . . . well I will right after Mosquitor, DB skeletor, and Mantenna. Teehee

[scott metzger]

The way the sale description reads is that the items will be until 7/31 @ 11:59pm. I wanted to wait to buy more Wind Raiders but I was worried they would be gone by the 15th.

Thing is, the instance I'm thinking of, the sale was supposed to overlap the regular sale date just like this, and when the new stuff went up, the sale stuff vanished. That's why I'm saying it might be a good idea to get someone to actually state publicly that this will not happen again so maybe somebody makes sure it doesn't...

[Kowl]

The sales & use taxes are completely valid. If your state has a sales tax, then they are able to collect sales tax on the purchase (and even the shipping & handling amount in some states). From a financial taxation standpoint, states are realizing they are losing out on millions of potential sales tax income through internet sales. Technically, you are suppose to pay sales tax on anything you buy off the internet if the company doesn't charge it directly. You do this during your state income tax return. I can guarantee you though that very few people actually do this and the states are taking notice. State legislatures are hurting financially and they are enforcing and/or passing laws that get them their due tax income. Whether you personally agree is another issue. On another note, most people don't know they are required by law to claim any profit from online sales (ebay/etc) as income on their taxes as well. Of course nobody does this either. Expect to see some major changes in the next decade on how state governments crack down on tax due from internet transactions.

[Riddle of Steel]

The whole system's a mess though because all that's gonna happen is what's happening now....

You've got so many sellers selling the same stuff that all you have to do spend an extra 2 seconds and find another selling it in another state minus the tax.

All it takes is for one state to not jump in and it ruins the party.

If EVERY ONE was forced to pay a flat % across the board every one would be on the same playing field and things would even out, however we all know that's never going to happen so we'll just be stuck with what we have.

[vertigoink]

The sales & use taxes are completely valid. If your state has a sales tax, then they are able to collect sales tax on the purchase (and even the shipping & handling amount in some states). From a financial taxation standpoint, states are realizing they are losing out on millions of potential sales tax income through internet sales. Technically, you are suppose to pay sales tax on anything you buy off the internet if the company doesn't charge it directly. You do this during your state income tax return. I can guarantee you though that very few people actually do this and the states are taking notice. State legislatures are hurting financially and they are enforcing and/or passing laws that get them their due tax income. Whether you personally agree is another issue. On another note, most people don't know they are required by law to claim any profit from online sales (ebay/etc) as income on their taxes as well. Of course nobody does this either. Expect to see some major changes in the next decade on how state governments crack down on tax due from internet transactions.

Actually, there has to be a brick and mortar iteration of a store within your state of origin in order for them to charge tax on internet purchases per current laws. This also extends to sales tax as there has to be a valid entity within the state for them to gain taxation from a purchase. What I think you may be referring to is the laws they've tried to pass (and currently continue to) that dictate ALL purchases regardless of physical presence in a state would be subject to tax. For proof of this law in action take a look at the whole Amazon controversy and how they get away with charging no tax.

[Riddle of Steel]

Actually, there has to be a brick and mortar iteration of a store within your state of origin in order for them to charge tax on internet purchases per current laws. This also extends to sales tax as there has to be a valid entity within the state for them to gain taxation from a purchase. What I think you may be referring to is the laws they've tried to pass (and currently continue to) that dictate ALL purchases regardless of physical presence in a state would be subject to tax. For proof of this law in action take a look at the whole Amazon controversy and how they get away with charging no tax.

I hear what you're saying as I've heard that argument, but I think the law is changing some what as it may actually be more up to each individual state rather then what kind of presence is inside of them.

I for one am in NJ and have NEVER paid tax on a Matty order up until today and I even ordered stuff and recently as 2 weeks ago.

I'm pretty sure Mattel hasn't crash landed here with any type of physical presence since then to warrant the brick & mortar tax, rather changes are being made in general.

Either that, or.......take a wild guess I suppose. Defiantly some thing I'm going to ask my accountant about none the less just for the heck of it.

[wundarwarrior]

Actually, there has to be a brick and mortar iteration of a store within your state of origin in order for them to charge tax on internet purchases per current laws. This also extends to sales tax as there has to be a valid entity within the state for them to gain taxation from a purchase. What I think you may be referring to is the laws they've tried to pass (and currently continue to) that dictate ALL purchases regardless of physical presence in a state would be subject to tax. For proof of this law in action take a look at the whole Amazon controversy and how they get away with charging no tax.

This what I have always been told and read. I have a friend who is runs an online store through ebay and we just talked about taxes. It is impossible for them to collect taxes on every online sale currently. But ebay IS being taxed which is why they take a percentage of every sale. Sure they will try and change the system but right now this situation is highly suspect.

[Kowl]

Actually, there has to be a brick and mortar iteration of a store within your state of origin in order for them to charge tax on internet purchases per current laws. This also extends to sales tax as there has to be a valid entity within the state for them to gain taxation from a purchase. What I think you may be referring to is the laws they've tried to pass (and currently continue to) that dictate ALL purchases regardless of physical presence in a state would be subject to tax. For proof of this law in action take a look at the whole Amazon controversy and how they get away with charging no tax.

As a finance professional, I have to disagree with you. The "brick & mortar" stipulation is only still valid in select states. In regards to Amazon, they follow a court judgement currently on the books that states they (Amazon) don't have to collect the sales tax as it would be too much of a burden for their company, but the consumer (you) still has to pay it to the state if your state has sales tax. See Quill Corporation v. North Dakota 1992. In MN, every resident is required by law to pay sales tax on any internet purchase. This is done through the state income tax. Do people do it? Of course not! What I'm saying is that state governments are pressuring online business to collect these tax revenues directly. You will see evolving tax decisions over the next few years that push for this. State governments need this income as brick & mortar stores are failing left and right. See the most recent decision between Amazon & Texas for the types of deals you should expect to see in the future.

Digital River has collected sales tax from me since the beginning, both in Florida & Minnesota. They have offices in Minnesota, but no physical presence in Florida. They also charge sales tax on the product & the S&H in MN, but only on the product in FL. Tax code is very complicated, but I can guarantee you that the old rules no longer apply.

I hear what you're saying as I've heard that argument, but I think the law is changing some what as it may actually be more up to each individual state rather then what kind of presence is inside of them.

I for one am in NJ and have NEVER paid tax on a Matty order up until today and I even ordered stuff and recently as 2 weeks ago.

I'm pretty sure Mattel hasn't crash landed here with any type of physical presence since then to warrant the brick & mortar tax, rather changes are being made in general.

Either that, or.......take a wild guess I suppose. Defiantly some thing I'm going to ask my accountant about none the less just for the heck of it.

New Jersey will start experiencing sales tax on online purchases as early as 2013. Your states tax department also reached a sales tax agreement with Amazon and other big online retailers. It is possible that Digital River just decided to start collecting early. NJ residents are currently required by law to pay the sales tax directly to the state, but again, no one does.

[wundarwarrior]

On a different note, the fact nothing is almost gone is surprising. So I expect we will be hearing that the WR is yet again a failure. That's unsettling.

[Teitan]

Why is Gygor, in "most wanted" sale? I really doubt if people want him that much. Most likely they want Scareglow, He-Ro, Roboto and King Grayskull more, (like myself, except Scareglow I was able to get him early from ebay, thank god). Just put Gygor and Tytus on "Essentials" and problem solved.

[Donimo]

On a different note, the fact nothing is almost gone is surprising. So I expect we will be hearing that the WR is yet again a failure. That's unsettling.

Yeah, I hope sales for WR pick up tomorrow. Otherwise, we can kiss other vehicles good-bye.

I too find it unsettling that suddenly out of nowhere Matty is charging tax in Ohio for these orders. Hopefully they get that fixed so it doesn't affect the sellout for WR and other items. That extra $5 in tax per WR is likely to push people over the edge of what they're willing to pay.

Between the delayed start and the inexplicable tax charge, today's "sale" seems to be a bit of a screw-up.

[Riddle of Steel]

Yeah, I hope sales for WR pick up tomorrow. Otherwise, we can kiss other vehicles good-bye.

I too find it unsettling that suddenly out of nowhere Matty is charging tax in Ohio for these orders. Hopefully they get that fixed so it doesn't affect the sellout for WR and other items. That extra $5 in tax per WR is likely to push people over the edge of what they're willing to pay.

Between the delayed start and the inexplicable tax charge, today's "sale" seems to be a bit of a screw-up.

That's what defiantly affected my order today with-out a doubt. I'm not blaming Matty for taxes as they're just the collector, but there's a defiantly a limit in which people are willing to go.

It'll be interesting to see how things like this effect sales as time goes and on more states adopt the policy.

With increased price rumors, now tax and good ol' shipping paying $40 for a regular 6" figure is looking more and more like the norm, and that's if you get it from Matty!

Eventually the bottom will just fall out as the bubble bursts, but what can you do.

You can only fit so many hands in any one pot, ultimately leaving NO SOUP FOR YOU!!

[wundarwarrior]

That's what defiantly affected my order today with-out a doubt. I'm not blaming Matty for taxes as they're just the collector, but there's a defiantly a limit in which people are willing to go.

It'll be interesting to see how things like this effect sales as time goes and on more states adopt the policy.

With increased price rumors, now tax and good ol' shipping paying $40 for a regular 6" figure is looking more and more like the norm, and that's if you get it from Matty!

Eventually the bottom will just fall out as the bubble bursts, but what can you do.

You can only fit so many hands in any one pot, ultimately leaving NO SOUP FOR YOU!!

Agreed. $35 for a figure, thats roughly the cost with regular shipping, is not a good thing. And it's only going to be worse next year. At this point two-packs would be a better option instead of single packsed figures to help with the related costs.

[Kowl]

Agreed. $35 for a figure, thats roughly the cost with regular shipping, is not a good thing. And it's only going to be worse next year. At this point two-packs would be a better option instead of single packsed figures to help with the related costs.

Yep... This line is certainly getting more and more expensive to collect!
Also, the "Most Wanted" title is only a marketing plug... We all know nobody wants Gygor or Mo-Larr... They should have called it the "Most Wanted by Mattel to Sell" sale

[vertigoink]

As a finance professional, I have to disagree with you. The "brick & mortar" stipulation is only still valid in select states. In regards to Amazon, they follow a court judgement currently on the books that states they (Amazon) don't have to collect the sales tax as it would be too much of a burden for their company, but the consumer (you) still has to pay it to the state if your state has sales tax. See Quill Corporation v. North Dakota 1992. In MN, every resident is required by law to pay sales tax on any internet purchase. This is done through the state income tax. Do people do it? Of course not! What I'm saying is that state governments are pressuring online business to collect these tax revenues directly. You will see evolving tax decisions over the next few years that push for this. State governments need this income as brick & mortar stores are failing left and right. See the most recent decision between Amazon & Texas for the types of deals you should expect to see in the future.

Digital River has collected sales tax from me since the beginning, both in Florida & Minnesota. They have offices in Minnesota, but no physical presence in Florida. They also charge sales tax on the product & the S&H in MN, but only on the product in FL. Tax code is very complicated, but I can guarantee you that the old rules no longer apply.




New Jersey will start experiencing sales tax on online purchases as early as 2013. Your states tax department also reached a sales tax agreement with Amazon and other big online retailers. It is possible that Digital River just decided to start collecting early. NJ residents are currently required by law to pay the sales tax directly to the state, but again, no one does.

I live in Michigan so I pay zero online tax. I do agree that it's a state by state case though.

[AGE]

As a finance professional, I have to disagree with you. The "brick & mortar" stipulation is only still valid in select states. In regards to Amazon, they follow a court judgement currently on the books that states they (Amazon) don't have to collect the sales tax as it would be too much of a burden for their company, but the consumer (you) still has to pay it to the state if your state has sales tax. See Quill Corporation v. North Dakota 1992. In MN, every resident is required by law to pay sales tax on any internet purchase. This is done through the state income tax. Do people do it? Of course not! What I'm saying is that state governments are pressuring online business to collect these tax revenues directly. You will see evolving tax decisions over the next few years that push for this. State governments need this income as brick & mortar stores are failing left and right. See the most recent decision between Amazon & Texas for the types of deals you should expect to see in the future.

Digital River has collected sales tax from me since the beginning, both in Florida & Minnesota. They have offices in Minnesota, but no physical presence in Florida. They also charge sales tax on the product & the S&H in MN, but only on the product in FL. Tax code is very complicated, but I can guarantee you that the old rules no longer apply.




New Jersey will start experiencing sales tax on online purchases as early as 2013. Your states tax department also reached a sales tax agreement with Amazon and other big online retailers. It is possible that Digital River just decided to start collecting early. NJ residents are currently required by law to pay the sales tax directly to the state, but again, no one does.

Hello my friend.

I'm also in the financial world in Toronto. and if it makes you guys feel better, as a res of Ontario Canada, Ontario being the province we pay 35+% on income tax, depending what you bring in.. and then they charge us 13% HST thats PST and GST together.. they harmonized it.. isn't that nice HST so 13% on top of the items you purchase. So pretty much half of what you make goes to the government, so just remember guys it can always be worse

know back to the subject at hand!!

will not be picking up any extra's but it's nice to see those Wind Raiders back up!! they are sweet!

[Lipster]

Bubble She-ra is still available... Hopefully she lasts till the regular sale date. I am still planning to reward my self with a 4 th Windraiders for waiting.

[Zodach]

I live in Michigan so I pay zero online tax. I do agree that it's a state by state case though.

The only states that do not levy a sales tax are Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon. You are required by law to disclose your online purchases on your personal income tax return and to pay the sales tax for those purchases. Not many people do that and it would be nearly impossible for the state to enforce at an individual level, which is why they are pushing for online retailers such as Amazon to collect, distribute, and report the sales tax to each state.

Purchasers of goods who have not paid sales tax in their own jurisdiction must file use tax returns to report taxable purchases. Many states permit such filing for individuals as part of individual income tax returns.

Use tax applies when sales tax has not been charged. Purchases made either over the Internet or out-of-state are the most common transactions subject to a use tax.

In regards to Amazon, they follow a court judgement currently on the books that states they (Amazon) don't have to collect the sales tax as it would be too much of a burden for their company, but the consumer (you) still has to pay it to the state if your state has sales tax. See Quill Corporation v. North Dakota 1992. In MN, every resident is required by law to pay sales tax on any internet purchase. This is done through the state income tax. Do people do it? Of course not! What I'm saying is that state governments are pressuring online business to collect these tax revenues directly.

[Jun-Yor]

I live in Michigan so I pay zero online tax. I do agree that it's a state by state case though.

So Michigan is Despondos. The rumors are indeed true.

[MegaGearMax]

On a different note, the fact nothing is almost gone is surprising. So I expect we will be hearing that the WR is yet again a failure. That's unsettling.

I know. I hope enough people are buying these Wind Raiders so that Mattel could justify making other iconic vehicles.

[shadowfall1976]

So Michigan is Despondos. The rumors are indeed true.

Considering I live there too....I would say yes it is, a place no one wants to be....

[Nekk-ra]

Well, Michigan has been Despondos for quite a while now.

I'm one of those responsible types that actually pays the Use Tax on my returns, mainly because with my luck I'd be audited. But they also want tax money for the S/H, and I can't justify paying taxes for someone to ship me an item, when I don't pay tax on the shipping for items I send. The use tax was originally intended for brick and mortar companies that sent out catalogs, but it's the age of the Internet, they smelled money, and the voracious appetite of government spending cannot be quenched.

[sailoruranus]

I caved and bought another wind raider to help the line. Hopefully these things will sell well.