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    Marvel NOW! Not exactly DC 52...

    http://marvel.com/news/story/19008/marvel_now

    So the aftermath of Avengers vs. X-Men seems pretty extensive. New teamings, new creative staffs. Uncanny Avengers? Hey-if it gives me more Havok, I'm on board.

    Generally, I'm a little tentative when it comes to relaunches. However, I can definitely see what Marvel wants to do here. The Avengers movie was probably the best thing to happen to Marvel Comics in decades. What better time to sprinkle a little of that attention into new books and give potential new readers a new jump off? Plus, ROCKET RACCOON!

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    Axel Alonso: Marvel NOW! hearkens back to 11 years ago, when Marvel found great success employing a simple formula: great artist plus great writer plus great character plus great story.

    Why am I reminded of high school English class and Julius Caesar.

    But Marvel does this thing all the time, I think they are just trying to capture the what DC with the publicity. It most likely won't keep readers because the formula above tells you what is the most and least important.
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    great story should be most important.

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    A great story gives you great characters. If you have a great story you obviously have a great writer, having to state great writers implies more you are concerned with the name on the cover page than the contents. Being a comic great art means it's telling the story with the dialogue.

    really there should be one thing in that list a great story told through both the dialogue and sequential art. Meaning if you tell a great story all the other things are doing their part to make it great.
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    I think it sounds fun. I certainly prefer this to DC's tactic.

    The great story part is up to the writer and artists. Mixing things up like this could yield some good results. I'm just happy to get some non-Bendis Avengers finally. I don't hate his work, it's just started to grate after so long with him in control.

    Not happy about the artist on Iron Man at all though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyldman11 View Post
    Axel Alonso: Marvel NOW! hearkens back to 11 years ago, when Marvel found great success employing a simple formula: great artist plus great writer plus great character plus great story.
    Pity Marvel has no great writers to speak of.

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    The Eisner awards would disagree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonWes View Post
    The Eisner awards would disagree with you.
    Brian Michael Bendis got an Eisner for his Marvel work? Wow.

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    How can Havok lead Captain America and Thor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman View Post
    Brian Michael Bendis got an Eisner for his Marvel work? Wow.
    Bendis doesn't write EVERY Marvel title, you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCI Guy View Post
    Nick Fury's secret son, Sgt. Marcus Johnson who is an African American and ends up losing one eye in the series... Nick Fury retires at the end of the series, and his son joins S.H.I.E.L.D. Johnson changes his name to his original birth name of Nick Fury Jr.
    Quote Originally Posted by Axel Alonso View Post
    Marvel NOW! hearkens back to 11 years ago, when Marvel found great success employing a simple formula: great artist plus great writer plus great character plus great story.
    Yes, great writing... Umm, yeah.

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    So quick question how did they make nick fury a white guy to a black guy in the comics. I don't understand why they need to do this. Zodac fury, they did with the punisher in the 90's. Why not just make a new character that is a different race then white. I really don't like that they do it. I see in movies but I'm still against it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Ozone View Post
    So quick question how did they make nick fury a white guy to a black guy in the comics. I don't understand why they need to do this. Zodac fury, they did with the punisher in the 90's. Why not just make a new character that is a different race then white. I really don't like that they do it. I see in movies but I'm still against it.
    Sadly, this is accurate (bold added for emphasis...):

    In 2012, the six part series Battle Scars introduces Nick Fury's secret son, Sgt. Marcus Johnson who is an African American and ends up losing one eye in the series. The character has been described as looking like Samuel L. Jackson, just as the Nick Fury of the Ultimate Universe does. Nick Fury retires at the end of the series, and his son joins S.H.I.E.L.D. Johnson changes his name to his original birth name of Nick Fury Jr., as he and Agent Coulson appear on the Helicarrier in the final page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCI Guy View Post
    In 2012, the six part series Battle Scars introduces Nick Fury's secret son, Sgt. Marcus Johnson who is an African American and ends up losing one eye in the series.
    so losing your eye due to an accident is an inherited trait passed from father to son in the Fury bloodline?

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    The DC Comics universe is a mess right now.

    Let's hope for the Marvel one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanquest View Post
    The DC Comics universe is a mess right now.

    Let's hope for the Marvel one.
    I think that the two companies should have swapped tactics. I think Marvel should have rebooted it's entire universe and washed away Loeb, Bendis and Millar, while DC should have simply refreshed some of the lackluster or underperforming parts of it's universe.

    Except for X-Factor, I might be out of Marvel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsfang View Post
    so losing your eye due to an accident is an inherited trait passed from father to son in the Fury bloodline?
    No just that but they have the technology to make exact, likelike decoys but don't seem to be able to replace a lost eye

    I have sent a PM to Val but he hasn't answered yet but the cover of Deadpool #1 has Staples with the names of the creative team. Is he the colourist for this title?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFallen View Post
    I have sent a PM to Val but he hasn't answered yet but the cover of Deadpool #1 has Staples with the names of the creative team. Is he the colourist for this title?
    Looks like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFallen View Post

    I have sent a PM to Val but he hasn't answered yet but the cover of Deadpool #1 has Staples with the names of the creative team. Is he the colourist for this title?
    Yup. That is him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Ozone View Post
    So quick question how did they make nick fury a white guy to a black guy in the comics. I don't understand why they need to do this. Zodac fury, they did with the punisher in the 90's. Why not just make a new character that is a different race then white. I really don't like that they do it. I see in movies but I'm still against it.
    The Ultimate universe could get away with changing races, since it was an alternate universe. They made the Wasp an Asian woman and a mutant.

    Ultimate Universe Nick Fury is based off Samuel L. Jackson with his permission for the Ultimates (the Ultimate version of the Avengers). Naturally, the movies would hire Sam Jackson and use that particular character instead of the standard 616 version. Now the general public sees Nick Fury as Samuel L. Jackson, thanks to all of those Marvel movies and TV Shows (Avengers: EMH and Ultimate Spider-Man)

    Eventually, the 616 comics has to match the public's idea of what Nick Fury looks like, as BCI Guy explains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    The Ultimate universe could get away with changing races, since it was an alternate universe. They made the Wasp an Asian woman and a mutant.

    Ultimate Universe Nick Fury is based off Samuel L. Jackson with his permission for the Ultimates (the Ultimate version of the Avengers). Naturally, the movies would hire Sam Jackson and use that particular character instead of the standard 616 version. Now the general public sees Nick Fury as Samuel L. Jackson, thanks to all of those Marvel movies and TV Shows (Avengers: EMH and Ultimate Spider-Man)

    Eventually, the 616 comics has to match the public's idea of what Nick Fury looks like, as BCI Guy explains.
    Wasp being asian in the Ultimate Universe...lasted for what, 5 minutes?

    Good explaniation on the Nick Fury thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Gilskull View Post
    Wasp being asian in the Ultimate Universe...lasted for what, 5 minutes?

    Good explaniation on the Nick Fury thing.
    Ultimate Janet Van Dyne was Asian all the way through. But she is is dead now. The Ultimate Blob was eating her corpse during Ultimatum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    Ultimate Janet Van Dyne was Asian all the way through. But she is is dead now. The Ultimate Blob was eating her corpse during Ultimatum.
    I thought some pencilers stopped drawing her that way about half way through, but since I only seen parts of The Ultimates' run, I'm probably the one mistaken. I remember that end too and thought it was lame.

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