I think Scott is saying that we are 60-70% down from where we were at this point last year (ie - day 11 or 12 of the subscription sale). We would be ok at 50% less, but since the numbers are less than that for the first 11 to 12 days, we will have to pick up the pace compared to last year from this point forward. It's hard to know where we stand since we don't know how sales were towards the end of the sign-up period last year, so hopefully Scott can get a thermometer posted soon.
Well, yes and no. For POP is seems Mattel has danced around getting us the primary characters from the Great Rebellion. When most POP fans talk about getting POP characters, they are referring more to the Great Rebellion characters than female Horde members. I would be much more OK with such a minute representation if they could focus on some of the bigger POP characters. GLIMMER. ANGELLA. MERMISTA. CASTASPELLA. At the very least we need Glimmer and Queen Angella before the line dies. Those two are must haves and would really help to simmer down a lot of the POP crowd.
It seems to me that Toyguru is still preaching to the SAME choir (persons) : those who are on toy forums and who either bought the sub or cherry picked this line for 4 years.
BUT WHAT IN TERMS OF PROMOTION AND ADVERTISEMENT TOWARD NEW POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS !?
I didn't see a thing done to promote MOTUC to new fans and customers ! No advertisement, no new cartoon, no new media other than some average comics...
Toyguru is trying to rally or convert the same public ! And parts of this public are made of fans who - despite numerous broken promises - didn't see QC improvements, didn't see any DR improvement, and in some cases bought a sub with characters who were unappealing (Spector, Vykron and co.). Some of those fans don't want a sub anymore after being screwed with delays, QC issues, no Fisto when they were subscribers with "guaranteed" figures, no combined shipping, price increases etc.
Improvements are YET to be seen... after 4 years of excuses and promises.
I think Toyguru should get to work and try to ALSO promote the MOTUC line to new customers. That's how you get new people into the line...
You'll probably find that these eBay sellers offer better shipping options outside of the US. I bought a couple from one of those China eBay guys before I bought directly from Matty. I did this because the price including shipping was much less & the items had tracking & arrived quickly. Since then I've only bought from Matty as some of the China figures weren't up to scratch or incomplete. With the way things are now though I'll probably go through a re-seller if the price increase means I'll have to pay customs on international shipping. I might end up paying a couple of dollars more but I'm sure I'll recieve the items much sooner than the 5-6 weeks it takes DR to ship to Australia & I'll have the option of pre-ordering. FWIW DR ship to Australia via Luxembourg![]()
What's even better is that it works. One video and people who were upset are now ready to sub up again.Originally Posted by kup
I don't see anything improving. All this is a great big smokescreen for people to buy more subs. Once that's accomplished, he won't care anymore.
And at $700 price point what new customer would buy a sub? It's is completely insane that Mattel follows this business model. The line will always be on the verge if it doesn't grow. Come on Toyguru, wake up!!Originally Posted by Prahvus
BUT WHAT IN TERMS OF PROMOTION AND ADVERTISEMENT TOWARD NEW POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS !?
Well personally I buy them because I want them all, Sure there are plenty I like more than others, but if you're in this for just POP I would think then subbing would never be for you. And yes I know if there are'nt enough subscribers the 2013 line doesn't fully go through. But people have gone 20+ years without these and going forever isn't going to really affect anyone.
The message that subs are down and more than ever and it could have lost 50% last year and it would have been fine so people are looking at just those comments. Well more than likely the budget could have been expanded and with the newly tooled figures and parts this may have raised the number of subs to move forward this year?
There's nothing to grow, the line is winding down, (nearly) all the vintage characters have been released. Anyone who's interested in what's left to produce is aware of MOTUC already, that's why they're focusing on completionists at this point.
I think Scott should go into politics. He knows how to manipulated the gullible masses with fear mongering and the same already broken promises. Reminds me of the 2004 US elections to the point that I am expecting him to say that he has a mandate from Jeebus to sell subs.
He was comparing the psychological relationship that occurs when one party continually wrongs another, yet the person who is continually wronged defends and comes up with every excuse they can to excuse the person who is perpetrating the wrongs.
In this case, it was quite apt.
But that isn't name calling. Is hyper sensitivity the new hyper detail in this line?
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And to be fair, Kup seems to have been battered himself by this years sub... he has his own motuc scars.
On a semi related note, I thought I was going to cop a battering when I told my wife about my 4 early morning Vykron purchases... she wasn't impressed with the nappy look.
I agree with Prahvus. This line isn't friendly to fans who weren't present from at least 2011. Mattel should try to ALWAYS acquire new fans. For every fan who is leaving the line who is angered by Digital River or character selection, there could be a fan who likes what he sees and is trying to get into the line. Not going into production for older figures keeps the customer base not only small, but dwindling down from the original base. Why get into the line if you can't get the figures? If I just found out about MOTUC at SDCC, I'm in trouble. I can't get the Sorceress or Teela, Shadow Weaver costs a fortune, characters from 2012 on up aren't coming back and now the line is possibly dying.
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That's a falsehood.
No, reality is real. The Earth is round. The sky is (generally) blue. The Ocean is deep.
These are facts. These are not "opinions". They are reality.
The reality is, Scott has made many, many promises he has failed to keep. This is reality. Look back on his posts on this forum seven or eight months ago, during the Demo-man issues, to see that. "A few weeks..." "Very soon..." and here it is, almost August and nothing.
Then go back a little further. And a little further.
Reality. You cannot change it. You can choose not to accept it, but you cannot call that "opinion". An opinion is "does this skirt look good with this dress", not "I'm of the opinion that Scott never made those promises in writing that he failed to accomplish."
Thanks for the responses, guys. I did see where Scott said 2013 was locked-in, but since everything is still in flux with the #1 choice potentially changing I thought maybe that would be the one slot they could still effect in these desperate times. heheh You know if, say, they wanted to insert a vintage POP figure to get more folks onboard. I know it's probably unlikely, but thought I'd check anyway.
Yes, exactly. People were oversensitive to the term, but it's an accepted term in discourse nonetheless, and the situation with some portions of the community is eerily accurate...if anyone doubts it, go read the clinical definition.
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Scott said today that there were 2 vintage PoP and 2 vintage NA in the 2013, but that wouldn't include possible Filmation like Scorpia, etc.
I'm assuming the 2 includes Neotessa, which means 1 additional PoP vintage character next year.
For crying out loud, he can't have it both ways, though - "we are so locked in we cannot ditch Fighting Foe Men or make any changes to 2013", but "We cannot even reveal all the character names because things change and we can't predict..."
I mean, can he at least keep his story straight one post to the next? We know month to month, week to week he contradicts himself, but now he's contradicting himself from what he says five minutes before.
Are you sure you should be bringing this up again, after a Mod has explicitly told everyone not to?
He didn't. Some people have either missed the point, or are trying to just stir trouble!!
Perhaps "Stockholm Syndrome" is less offensive for some people! Not quite the same thing, but it's worth a google.
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Ugh, two NA characters ... they better be NA He-Man and NA Skeletor.
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Scott should actually work for Hasbro on the Decepticon division. He is so good at it given all the blind following he has.
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Thanks guys! Good to see that the art of reading comprehension hasn't been completely lost![]()
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