Reply With QuoteNow this is what you call loyalty (impressed). I would never forgive my self if i wouldn't watch it (just because of minor detail) - of course if it comes out eventually.Originally Posted by wolfsfang
oh I am not arguing either, just friendly discussion.
It is just that you said DL would still watch a movie with She-Ra in it because it is a MOTU movie and I was merely pointing out that you were wrong. The addition of She-Ra (no matter how small) would pretty much guarantee that neither DL or myself would watch it.
Now this is what you call loyalty (impressed). I would never forgive my self if i wouldn't watch it (just because of minor detail) - of course if it comes out eventually.
Wow... my little post sure did stir up a lot of interest between JD and Wolf, lol.
Anyhow JD.... Wolf's pretty much on the money about my views. I won't watch a MOTU movie that has either She-Ra or Earth references (this includes Marlena being from Earth).
To your point JD about it being a business decision to add her or not. I am fully aware of that. You've likely never followed my posts, but I pretty much always view things from a business perspective. This is why the last thing that they care about, or should care about, is the existing fanbase. There aren't enough MOTU fans to really matter, so the movie's success or failure will be predicated on its ability to bring in new people. As for my little contribution not mattering in the grand scheme of things, I personally believe that much is so obvious that it doesn't bear mentioning. I don't in any way think that my going to the movie will matter to the movie's bottom line. My post was just a comment about my stance on whether I will watch it or not and was never intended to be some sort of commentary as to whether the movie would be a success or failure.
As such, the decision on whether to put She-Ra in the movie or not will also be a business decision. If they believe that it will help the bottom line, it'll happen. If the call is make to put She-Ra into it, I won't hold it against Mattel or Sony as I would likely make the same deciison if in their shoes. Business is business and I don't harbor ill-will against companies that make business decisions that go against my personal preferences.
As to your comment about the trailer, I can guarantee that not only would I see it but I'd likely see it numerous times. I happen to be a very avid movie goer so as long as a trailer makes it to the theaters, I'll inevitably see it a ton of times.
And ya, it is friendly discussion. I don't take any offense to people liking She-Ra being in the movie, nor do I take offense to people thinking I'll watch it anyways. But as Wolf pointed out, the thought that I will see it anyways is incorrect as I made a personal choice to not support any future version of MOTU that includes She-Ra or Earth. I don't expect anyone else to do the same, nor do I care what others choose to do. But in the end, it's just a personal choice
OK, you two won't watch a MOTU movie with She-Ra on it, so what?She-Ra has been part of the MOTUverse since the vintage years (the Filmation PoP series is a direct continuation of HM&MOTU), the PoP segment of the mythos has a sizeable, passionate and vocal following, and her being an integral part of the story has been acknowledged in both the 200X and MOTUC canon reboots (she got a 200X figure, her appearance in the MYP cartoon was planned for the third season, and she's been totally integrated into the MOTUC storyline since the beginning). Who cares whether you think her a disgrace in your personal MOTU canon?
Why are you so defensive?OK, you two won't watch a MOTU movie with She-Ra on it, so what?
At what point did I say that my not watching it means that others should not? In my last post, which you took the time to partially quote I stated 3 things:
- My decision to not watch the movie will not in any way affect the movie's success;
- That I might actually choose to put She-Ra in a movie, if I were in their shoes, as the decision is purely business based; and
- That I in no way expect others to do what I do, nor do I care if they choose to make those choices.
The third point in particular bears mentioning. I don't think that my choices affect others, nor do I want them to.
So basically, you've managed to paraphrase what I have said, while also getting extremely defensive and somehow turning it into an attack on my tastes.
Edit: As a quick edit, I don't hold people liking She-Ra against them. They have their tastes, I have mine. I happen to get along quite well with many of her fans.
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I'm not attacking your tastes, I'm simply pointing out that this thread is supposed to be a place to discuss the recent news about the movie, not to highlight your or anyone else's personal dislike for a part of the official MOTU mythos. It's only 2 pages long so far, but around half a dozen messages have been devoted to a personal conversation about whether you and the other one will or will not see the movie if She-Ra happens to be in it. My point is: Who cares? Every MOTU fan has his/her own personal canon and yours is not any more relevant or worthy of attention than others'. Just keep your own canon preferences to yourselves, at least in this thread. Would you like it if other fans with wildly different visions than yours started to highjack this thread to make their points? There's a fanfic subforum for people to discuss their personal versions of the canon. She-Ra is a major part of the official canon, so the producers and writers of the movie have every right to include her in it. And if you don't like that and won't see the movie because of it, then your loss.
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I must confess that I too am surprised by the number of posts dedicated to my own comment.
With regards to this thread, my understanding is that it is to discuss the results of said interview and how it makes them feel about the potential movie. I think that it invites people to post whether the news makes them happy, sad, excited, dejected, thrilled, angered, etc. I also think that it invites people to post on whether the news makes them feel inclined to watch the movie or not. I also did not notice it being protected and requesting that only people who want to see the movie as a result of the interview post.
And unlike you, I have no problem whatsoever with fans who have varying views from mine stating them in this thread. Krueger (in the opening post), Angel T and Scorpia all showed excitement at the prospect of She-Ra being in it. Why are you not calling them out for sharing their personal views on She-Ra's inclusion in a movie? How is it my problem that a comment I made caused responses from 2 other members? I more than welcome the She-Ra fans showing their support for her in this thread. If they like the fact that she appears likely to be included in a movie, then they should come in here and comment it. They should celebrate and support it.
If you are not attacking my tastes, then why are you not going after people who showed support for She-Ra in the movie?
Also, you said, and I quote, "She-Ra is a major part of the official canon, so the producers and writers of the movie have every right to include her in it." At what point did I say that they didn't? All I said was that I will not watch it. I've even said, multiple times since then, that I do not believe that my views will have any bearing on the movie's success, are not indicative of what others think and are not necessarily indicative of what is good business sense.
Also, I think that the fanfic forum is a place to post fanfics. I don't think its purpose is to discuss views on various canons.
I think that the movie forum is here to discuss what we want in the movie. The other forums (MOTUC, 200x, Vintage MOTU, PoP, NA), I think are there for us to discuss our views on those specific canons.
Me saying that they've already got a director might be wrong. It’s just that the way he said it really does make me think they've already got someone. I mean, when official announcements come from the studio saying that so and so has been hired to direct whatever, I'm pretty sure they didn't agree to it that morning. So, either they've already hired someone or they're in the midst of doing so.
Myself, my dream would be Neill Blomkamp. He directed District 9 and his latest film, Elysium, which is due out next March, created big waves at SDCC. Did I mention that he's also got a very good relationship with Sony Pictures, who have dealt with his two films so far?
On FB, oulala said he also heard that the director is supposed to be announced some time next week. He's a film director himself, so I'm trusting what he has to say.
Good to know. If not this week, it will be soon nonetheless.On FB, oulala said he also heard that the director is supposed to be announced some time next week. He's a film director himself, so I'm trusting what he has to say.
Friendly discussions are fine.
Keep it friendly. Everyone has their opinions on MOTU. Some believe it should be strictly filmation while others hate filmation and want it like the mini comics and others want MYP or still others want a blending of all of them.
And then there are people who dislike She Ra.
Frankly, I'm one of em. I'd rather not see her in the movies.
Discussing possible movie angles is perfectly acceptable here.
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Really exciting stuff, i hope this really happens soon. My personal opinion is if your a fan of motu i dont know how you couldnt watch a motu movie even if you didnt like 5 of the characters, surely you like more characters then dislike. Each to their own i guess.
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Well, a story just broke on Deadline Hollywood that The Equalizer is set to begin filming next April. So, that's one out of the way. Now for He-Man.
We're in homestretch.Well, a story just broke on Deadline Hollywood that The Equalizer is set to begin filming next April. So, that's one out of the way. Now for He-Man.
I've just asked on Escape Artists FB page on The Equalizer news if we are getting some scoop\news on Masters OF The Universe movie
They announced Denzel Washington will be playing The Equalizer. Extremely glad to hear this news at it gives the comments of the interview credibility.Well, a story just broke on Deadline Hollywood that The Equalizer is set to begin filming next April. So, that's one out of the way. Now for He-Man.
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Hopefully something is heard soonish, but it's also good to keep in my not to get your hopes up too high right now. We've been waiting a long time with many previous efforts fizzling out (some of which we should be glad they did).
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Todd Black is a major player and if (out of the MANY projects they have in development) he mentions MOTU as the first thing to look forward to I would take this as VERY exciting news.
As for She-Ra, I don't think his reference is in any way means she will be in this film. While I personally am a POP fan above all else, I think She-Ra would work better in a sequel if a first movie ends up being profitable.
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I agree swifty, Eternia, He-Man, grayskull, the heroic & evil worriors and Skeletor all need to be established first. I would just really love to see a nod, like a flash of the sword of protection, a shot of Adam and Adora as babies or some kind of acknowledgement of a twin sister who was lost to darkness. Something vauge but still a nod to She-Ra fans that she is comming.
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I think, if they did have an eye to sequels and possible appearance by She-Ra, then it wouldn't be bad to have a prologue or something where it shows/references Adora being kidnapped by Hordak's forces.
In regards to my speculation on who Teela's real father is.I hate you. So much.
If they do the baby-snatching thing, it would happen in a She-Ra movie, enirely on her own from He-Man.
.(the baby snatching also happened in the Sierra game 'King's Quest', volume 4 is all about a girl princess, and I think it works very well in a one-player game form, and a story heavy game at that)
If they do it the right way,, then He-Man and She-Ra are together all the time, not nessasarily working together all the time, but a movie that can be called 'He-Man and She-Ra' or 'Peace and Havoc'.
Actually that would be the wrong way for 99% of MOTU fans
I agree.
Personally, I'd like to see the MoTU universe treated somewhat like the Marvel Studios Universe. Establish He-Man first. Then if it is successful have a She-Ra movie. Have them team up for a 3rd. If each is a trilogy you could get a 9 movie deal out of this and maybe even have a King Grayskull movie mixed in. It could truly be epic if done properly.
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It'd be interesting if they could work the kidnapping of Adora in earlier, so that maybe part of what motivates Adam is his need to find out what happens to his siter. But She-Ra herself should probably not appear until movie 2 at least. It'd be cool if she were introduced as Force Captain Adora in a second movie or something and they didn't find out who she was until more towards the end and that paved the way for an introduction in movie 3.
Of course, they have to get ONE movie off the ground first.
From caucasian English to African-American... that's a good start
I've nothing against She-Ra in toy or cartoon form, but they should keep her from any potential MOTU movie in every way bar some kind of subtle alusion... Don't forget that to many non-fans, the concept of of a character called 'He-Man' is rather amusing. Establishing him in a 'real world' scenario will be tough enough as it is without throwing in his sister. Get the franchise rolling, then bring in She-Ra in her own movie alá Wolverine (only in a better film!)
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