Feel free to post for me on Matty if you feel so inclined. I won't set up a profile there (especially now that I am no longer a customer of theirs). If I thought they'd give us an honest answer, I might do it. But it's mostly PR nonsense I don't care to read.
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I'm wondering--is painting over plastic a normal practice for other companies,etc... I've always assumed the plastic was dyed whatever to be that color when being mixed. Just wondering if this is the exception to the rule.
But with that said, the ones that are now painted over the black plastic....good luck with those holding up 20-30 years, and still be fully painted, some of the pics I have seen of Vykron, look like he has already bee around for that long.
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You know what though, it's just like the Creeping Horak from the Filmation episode "Curse of the Spellstone". I was thinking that before, and then saw your picture and had to comment. So the Black Plastic Morbo is from the same race as the Creeping Horak, or is it his son? Maybe the Creeping Horak has invaded China.
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Laser-Lot has it as well. I am canceling my credit card, therefore canceling my 2013 subs. I refuse to pay for such inferior products. I'll just get Ram Man and the remaining original MOTU for a complete collection and I'm done with MOTUC. I feel that many of us will follow my descision. Sorry Matty, it's your fault.
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I am starting to think this is planned.
At which point did the design team sit down and say, "I got great idea, we'll get black plastic and paint over it and nobody will notice the difference". It doesn't make sense, does it!
I almost believe they want to kill the classic line before a movie line is released. They want us to buy cheap movie figures but we won't when there is superior line already established, so they start to reduce the quality of them to kill them off so we hunger after the newer property
Making sure the vintage line is fully reproduced in the classics line
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What sucks to me is that we will never Get replacements and we will have defected figures forever. Instead of making it right we will have nearly double digits of figures that will be defective and never have mint versions.
It's easier to just order a big load of black plastic and paint over it as needed than to sit and carefully order and figure out how much of each color you will need for a line (as I am sure they order those types of things in large lots based on many figures, perhaps even for a whole year of the line).
"Hey, instead of carefully planning the line, let's just order a bunch of generic black plastic and then we don't have to worry about planning or management and spend our time being snarky on the forums."
That's probably what it was more like, in that case.
This stuff does happen, for sure. But this isn't mass retail. The point is: for a short run with slim to no chance of a variant or re-issue, there really needs to be an increased level of scrutiny when reviewing prototypes before production on our "High Quality Adult Collector line". Why aren't the Four Horsemen reviewing prototypes before production? It's their sculpts. Who would know better than them.
Not for nothing, but not only have swapped limbs have been caught by the 4H, but limbs belonging to other CHARACTERS almost got swapped, but not for the 4H spotting them. That's not speculation either.
I love my toys, and I am coming to grips with how these toys have to be, and am grateful the right color are on them, but I don;'t get the contradictory approach:
Rattlor, DB Skeletor, Mekaneck, Vykron, Spikor: Paint paint paint!
SLL, Frosta: You know what? Nah...
I think Mattel Design might need some "re-design".
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I think they had the right idea with Rattlor. He lost armor but was painted well and needed all those apps. Then they decided to keep a shield Frosta never had AND paint it (even though it could have been an ice construct) but not paint the back of her outfit nor flesh tone on her face. The decisions we now see are something I need to speak to Ruben about in person.
Weapons can wind up later in a weapons pack. Figures cannot.
-Four Horsemen need to QC their own sculpts and check paint apps, part orientation, etc.
-There needs to be a Ten Commandments of sorts by the fans that Mattel can hopefully adhere to (ex: Every female face at least must be painted flesh tone. Paint aps on the figure need to be complete, even at the expense of an additional weapon/armor. No painting at joints/limbs. Etc. Those kinds of things).
-Mattel should understand that the prototype (while a prototype) are what the fans expect the toy to look like after making it's voyage through the vendor.
-Look at the paint. Is white...WHITE? Sadly how many times have fans asked if Frosta is WHITE WHITE and she still came out dirty and gray-ish.
-They need to end playing fast and loose with the term "fan" We are 'fans" and they are "fans". Well, we fans are also the "paying customers" and they are the "business", so when the line is in the "fans' hands", it is not in our hands, but theirs. It's their ball to drop, and Ruben and co. isn't off to a sound start.
I am pulling for them to work it out for 2013, but seriously, they have been given too many chances, as much as they pushed back lately against the complaints of many on the boards. Speaking for myself, I am not coming as a perfectionist fanboy. I am the buyer. And I would like my feedback valued.
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That's the thing that I think people forget. OK, he can't be expected to head off every issue before it happens. But when it does happen, it is his responsibility to take care of the issue and take steps to correct it.
And that's where the failure in management becomes apparent, especially now that he is actively throwing Ruben under the bus as the person responsible for these things.
A manager takes responsibility, he doesn't simply keep blaming his team for mistakes that he should have guided them through, especially once they become known and/or repeated issues.
Part of me really hopes that Ninjor (and whoever else is black) is painted black and has some other color underneath just to see a slew of 'give us black plastic' threads.
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