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    Painting help on how to use acrylics efficiently

    I have been painting successfully about 10 years ago with Citadel miniature quite frequently, but acrylics ("Reeves" acrylics in this case) are new to me. However this weekend I finally decided to go from words to action, and actually use acrylic paints and brush and try to make Alcala Skeletor head more yellow. I felt painting it white first would not be needed, as I was not doing anything radical and I planned to leave the green on the edges. So I went right on with yellow. I watered it down to avoid brush marks showing on the paint (watched Intern Rick's video about it), but it ended up being rather uneven and not too smooth looking. I could see brush strokes at some points, but I do not think I could water it more.

    Good news is that with toothbrush and some Fairy (for hand washing dishes), you can get all the paint off, so no disaster there.

    I presume there is not much more to this than trying to get the paint thickness correct? I am a bit hesitant of doing full primer as getting all off on failure would be a pain, plus I do not want to colour the hood or the edges. Or is the primer required for acrylics to stick with any good results? If the surface isn't smooth, it just steps out too much as a custom paint to me.

    I know there are very experienced figure painters here, so I decided it is wisdom to check!

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    Alcohol is great for thinning Acrylics, plus it helps the paint dry better and stick better....bad thing is, most acrylics are more transparent when trying to paint them, whites, reds, silvers....they're just not as heavy, but alcohol helps, especially when mixing colors.
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    That could be my problem, I used water to thin it. I have to look some up from an art store. I should have known alcohol helps with anything!

    Does removing the paint in case of mistake become an issue as well with alcohol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invicta View Post
    I have been painting successfully about 10 years ago with Citadel miniature quite frequently, but acrylics ("Reeves" acrylics in this case) are new to me. However this weekend I finally decided to go from words to action, and actually use acrylic paints and brush and try to make Alcala Skeletor head more yellow. I felt painting it white first would not be needed, as I was not doing anything radical and I planned to leave the green on the edges. So I went right on with yellow. I watered it down to avoid brush marks showing on the paint (watched Intern Rick's video about it), but it ended up being rather uneven and not too smooth looking. I could see brush strokes at some points, but I do not think I could water it more.

    Good news is that with toothbrush and some Fairy (for hand washing dishes), you can get all the paint off, so no disaster there.

    I presume there is not much more to this than trying to get the paint thickness correct? I am a bit hesitant of doing full primer as getting all off on failure would be a pain, plus I do not want to colour the hood or the edges. Or is the primer required for acrylics to stick with any good results? If the surface isn't smooth, it just steps out too much as a custom paint to me.

    I know there are very experienced figure painters here, so I decided it is wisdom to check!
    Sometimes the brand of the paint that you're using is a factor.
    I personally prefer the Games Workshop/Citadel paint line since they seem to be more opaque than the usual acrylics out there.

    I tried switching to the non-modeling Acrylic paint available in bookstores, since it's cheaper, but ended up going back to citadel because I didn't like the coverage all that much. The pigments seem to be less opaque than what I was used to, and I found out that once I've applied enough layers to solve the opacity issue, the final paint work would be end up looking too thick.

    As a mid point, I buy/use the basic Citadel colors and use cheaper acrylic brands as tinting color, if I needed to mix off-palette colors.
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    I can't recommend using Cartoon Colour Vinyl Acrylic Paints enough. They are the most pigmented paints I've used, it goes on so smooth that I've never ended up with any brush marks. It's the kinda expensive ($40 for a set), but each bottle will last you a few years. It dries to a super matte finish and is very durable, I don't even bother with primer for most projects. It's the same paint that the Four Horsemen use on their prototypes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BadVermin View Post
    I can't recommend using Cartoon Colour Vinyl Acrylic Paints enough. They are the most pigmented paints I've used, it goes on so smooth that I've never ended up with any brush marks. It's the kinda expensive ($40 for a set), but each bottle will last you a few years. It dries to a super matte finish and is very durable, I don't even bother with primer for most projects. It's the same paint that the Four Horsemen use on their prototypes.
    Vermin, what kind of sealer do you use? I'd like to know exactly what successful customizers use...most guides assume knowledge. I have none at all and I don't want to blow it!

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    I've honestly stopped using sealer with Cartoon Colour paint, it doesn't seem to need it, plus I prefer the super matte finish. I still "play" with my figures every day, and the paint has held up. For example I swapped Stinkors forearms and repainted them, the paint still looks as good as the day I painted it, no bleeding or paint rubs are visible. The only time I use a sealer is if I'm wanting to make the finish glossy.
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    This was just the thread I needed. Thanks guys. Is Cartoon Colour Paint the same used for cel painting? There is a website called cartoon colour company that sells cel-vinyl. Is that what you guys are talking about?

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