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    Skyfall

    So...I did a search and couldn't find a thread on this (I was shocked).

    Anyone seen it yet?

    I just saw it and was surprised that I liked it considering how hyped it's been. Craig is still not my preferred Bond, which makes some of the raves a little hard to take at times, but he's excellent here just the same. Great cast too, and the visuals are terrific. It's a real step up from Quantum of Solace, and at least as good as Casino Royale.

     

    Judi Dench's M has a good send off, I'll miss her, and although he's good there is something unnerving about Voldemort replacing her. Also liked the new Moneypenny and Q, and hope that we'll get back to Quantum or even Specter because the big bad here another rogue agent like in Goldeneye so if the heroes created a monster like him then I'd like to see more of the monsters they made him to fight in the first place.


    EDIT: Mods, if there's a glitch, I'm sorry, because even doing a search now I cannot find any threads just on Skyfall even though I created this thread.
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    I did a search and couldn't find anything either. Which seems strange, but I guess it happens. Some things slip through here without discussion.

    I loved the movie! I have yet to see Quantum of Solace. I bought the blu ray cheap. I had heard so-so things but I'll give it a go. There was some really gorgeous cinematography on display here. The scenes in Shanghai and the climactic scene springs to mind. It just felt very classy. I really appreciated how, for the 50th anniversary, they reveled in the past (a bit) before clearly setting things up for the future.

     
    I agree that Dench's M was given a great send off, though I was sad to see her go as well. That being said, Ralph Fiennes was set up well for his new role too. The new Q was great as well. Loved the bit with the gun and the radio.

    Overall, I think the movie really gave the franchise the boost it needed for the future.

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    I've seen it and I liked it a lot; however...

     
    ... has Bond's nationality always been Scottish? I've seen most of the movies and I always thought of him as an English gentleman, but it is clear that there's a point of pressure there when it is interviewed by that shrink doing the word association when asked "Country" & "Skyfall".
    Also, when M wrote his obituary, he entitled him as a "Captain". I always thought that he was "Commander"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhanen View Post
    I've seen it and I liked it a lot; however...
    Hmmm... I pretty sure it said Commander, actually. That's what I remember it saying, anyway.

     
    As for him being Scottish, I don't think that's been stated (I don't think we knew much of anything about him, really) but I think it's an interesting idea of his background being Scottish, and them taking him and molding him into an "English gentleman." I think that might be part of showing how completely he was molded by the government to be an agent.

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    I think Flemming made Bond Scottish after Sean Connery began playing the part. I'm pretty sure I've seen that before. Also I too read Commander when that detail came up.

     
    More than ever before I wonder if we are going to repeat any previous adventures like stuff with Spectre (which arguably was the closest the franchise ever got to a continuing story arc). This movie very much ends with the familiar set up seen in previous Bond movies, placing the events of the last three at the beginning of his career. I'm not sure its worth rehashing anything in a post-cold war world, but I'd love to see the same team try their hand at Blofeld and Tracy Draco/Bond from OHMSS.
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    Wow, what can I say about this movie? It was down right amazing!!! It is not only now my fourth favorite Bond movie (knocking Thunderball to #5), but it is also the best movie of 2012 hands down. Avengers was incredible, but the events, character development, and action scenes are even better. It's story keeps you guessing on what is going to happen and Bardem's character is by far the best villain of the series since Sanchez in Licence to Kill. Every scene with Q was full of brilliant dialog and the final bits of the movie are as unforgettable as those found in On Her Majesty's Secret Service. There are multiple homages to the previous movies and it was truly worthy of being the movie for its 50th anniversary. Not to mention it was well worth the four year wait from Quantum.

     
    BTW, who found it awesome that Voldemort is now in charge of MI6? I knew the name of the character sounded familiar and kept thinking about it during the movie when it hit me that that was M's name in the books.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhanen View Post
    I've seen it and I liked it a lot; however...
    That's not a spoiler. Ian Fleming made Bond have Scottish descent in the book "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" to account for Connery being casted as Bond and he liked the way he played the character in Dr No. In fact, they touch upon that in the movie too, which is funny considering Lazenby played the role of Bond who was not Scottish.

    Quote Originally Posted by JonWes View Post
    I did a search and couldn't find anything either. Which seems strange, but I guess it happens. Some things slip through here without discussion.

    I loved the movie! I have yet to see Quantum of Solace. I bought the blu ray cheap. I had heard so-so things but I'll give it a go. There was some really gorgeous cinematography on display here. The scenes in Shanghai and the climactic scene springs to mind. It just felt very classy. I really appreciated how, for the 50th anniversary, they reveled in the past (a bit) before clearly setting things up for the future.
    Oh my god, the cinematography was amazing in both those scenes. In fact, the sniper fight in Shanghai is probably my favorite part of the movie.

    As for Quantum, it is a great movie, but you have to really watch it around the time you watch CR because it is more of a continuation than another Bond movie. Plus, the first half hour of the movie is a little rough to sit through because of how much action they threw into it. Once the plot gets moving, it gets good.

    Oh yeah, I also like how the villains seem to be named off of colors. Mr White, Dominic Greene, and now Silver.
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    I loved Casino Royale. It was the Batman Begins of Bond movies. It breathed new life into the franchise, while not alienating the fans of the classic Bond. Quantum of Solace severely dropped the ball with the forgettable sequel and sort of erased all momentum the first one had.

    Skyfall is the best of the trilogy and is exactly what is needed to keep making Bond films in the future. Both James Bond and M are facing the idea of being obsolete. M16 is under attack and 007's loyalty to M is all that is left to save it.

    Much like Casino Royale, this takes a completely fresh tone to the franchise with the look and feel of the film, however it also bridges the gap between these new Bond films and the classic elements of the originals. Q is introduced, along with his gadgets. James Bond is back to womanizing and seducing beautiful women as part getting the job done along with the classic cars. It's a great mix of old school vs new school.

    The cast is fantastic. Craig is a great grizzled Bond. Judi Dench is amazing as M. Javier Bardem is a very fun, creepy, and charismatic villain, very different than his Antoine Chigur. And Ralph Fienners is a great addition to the cast. We only get a taste of Q, but I look forward to him in the future films.

    Great movie, go see it. I'm not sure Bond purists will love it, it is purposely different at times, but I just enjoyed the movie as a stand alone film.

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    I disagree. The Craig Bond series is clearly in a new universe. Judi Dench and Felix alone prove this. Remember, Bond never met Felix before Dr No in the old series, but if this universe was in that world, he would have known Felix. Plus, Dench's M cannot be M in both Bond's beginning career and then late into it.
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    Also there's the Cold War being over in Craig's series. You just can't reconcile that with the old ones.

    Does Silva mean "silver"? That's very interesting because

     
    It suggests he may have been associated with Quantum. The movie kind of brushed over the suspicious detail that Silva's cyanide capsule failed to kill him. I think there could have been more there if they are inclined to reference these details again in another movie, which doesn't usually happen I know but...hmmm.
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    Really enjoyed the movie. Now I'm glad I didn't sell my 1:18 Joyride DB5. A new James Bond in gray suit custom figure is on the way!
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