Roast Gooble Dinner - Episode 106 Discussion!

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Episode 106 of He-Man.org's Roast Gooble Dinner is here!
We hope you're hungry.



Val Staples, Danielle Gelehrter, "Pixel Dan" Eardley and Eamon O'Donoghue are back to discuss He-Man and She-Ra.

In this episode we discuss
shout outs,
accents,
listener e-mails,
Dreamworks acquisition,
hints of She-Ra,
LaLa Land Records,
canon changes,
He-Man's strength,
your era of nostalgia,
disliking characters,
multiple variations of canon,
shock of new characters,
revamping She-Ra,
Filmation subscription,
keeping MOTU alive and popular,
Masks of Power demons,
humor in MOTUC,
criticism and positivity
and much more!

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[Ravenskarr]

Yeah, Eamon, I recall Cy-Clone and Moss Man appearing on card back first too. I actually went into the toy shop a second time with pen and paper and did a rough sketch of them both. At home I would lay on the floor doodling MOTU for hours and make up stories about them. I don't know what the people working in the toy shop must have thought of me as I knelt there quickly sketching these two new characters straight from the card back, but I recall it was the only thing I thought about at the time. I was so stoked about getting new characters. I don't know why people get so uptight about it now. I love Dreago-Man and Cy-Chop!

[Crusader]

Masks of Power demons

Yeah !!!

[Ravenskarr]

I think that it would be difficult to make a new She-Ra cartoon without mentioning something about MOTU since her one line as she raises her sword is, "By the honour of Grayskull"

[maltesefalcon]

listening to the podcast at the moment (at the 1:13 mark) and the she-ra situation is simple. she-ra is the frasier to he-mans cheers, or even to use daniels example he-man is buffy she-ra is angel. the could arrange it as a show where she-ra is allready established ie most batman series and have an origin episode with he-man further along the line. acknowledge that he-man exists in that univers but focus more on etheria and the rebellion.

give us episodes that show the general populaces opinion on a rebellion after all one mans freedom fighter is anothers terrorist. i would also like to see some characters having mistrust for adora being that she used to be a member of the horde. she-ra allready has its story: he-man is the established hero who is embraced by the authorities and she-ra is on the fringes she is not able to just solve the problem by throwing them into mud embarrassing them into running away.

[Niki]

I think that it would be difficult to make a new She-Ra cartoon without mentioning something about MOTU since her one line as she raises her sword is, "By the honour of Grayskull"

As silly as this may sound to you, they did that with the german audi cassette stories. Adora held aloft her sword and said: I AM SHE-RA!

Everyone knew she could do that and even begged her when danger was approaching.

Catra and Clawdeen lived close to a volcano, which housed a mysterious "sorcerer of the volcano".

There was no mention of He-Man or the Horde and somehow it worked.

[Replikor]

YAY!!! More Roast Gooble!

Just in time for Christmas!!!


MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!

[MegaGearMax]

Hulk fought the Sentry at the end of WWH. The Hulk in World War Hulk was so angry that he was called Worldbreaker, as he could cause catastrophic damage with each step at the end.

Just because you have super strength, doesn't mean you have high resistance to injury. I think Hulk would beat He-Man, because He-Man doesn't have Hulk's durability. He-Man can die from a gunshot...the Hulk can't.

I prefer Eamon's preference for He-Man's strength, where He-Man isn't Superman powerful, but moreso like Captain America or Conan.

[tim]

Thanks, great discussion.

He-Man defeats Hulk!

[Benedict Judas Hel]

He-Man defeats Hulk!

Only in alphabetical order...

[Hoffrod]

I would tend to think that He-man's battle experience and rational combined with castle lifting strength is what would give him an edge to finding a way to subduing Hulk. Hulks blind rage is intimidating and powerful, but there are ways around it. Hulk has a tendency to just walk into harms way and go through it, where He-man can avoid and counter.

[Berserker79]

I just listened to the podcast and I found the popularity/new characters topic interesting.

I personally am not interested in seeing MOTU being popular for the following generations, because of the changes the brand has to make and already made. I have a certain, limited image of MOTU and the reason, why I collect MOTUC is, that this line currently captures that image. If MOTUC would be more 200x or DC Comics related in style, I wouldn`t want to have something to do with it. Nostalgy is THE reason for me for collecting this line. Even if kids in 10 years would like He-Man, it wouldn`t be the brand I remembered. To be honest, I wouldn`t have any problems if the brand dies with our generation, because it`s an 80`s brand, it belongs to our generation and it wouldn`t be the same in 10 or 20 years.

I welcome new characters, if they look like 80`s MOTU for me, but only figures like Draego Man, Demo Man and CG Man transport that vibe to me. I also think, the green FFM guy looks like he belongs to the 80`s, so I´ll keep him. If Mattel wants to include new characters, they better have some strong vintage touch. If not, I won`t buy them.

I know, that there is a big faction of collectors, who want everything MOTU, but there are many, who have a similar attitude like me.

[Count Marzo]

Sweeeeet!

Looks like quite a few intriguing topics that I'm definitely interested in hearing you guys discuss.

[Zombihamma-AI]

Great show guy, I love it when a impassioned conversation happens, very cool,
As for She-ra , I think it could work, like you guys said as a hero on her own,
But really I prefer Golden Girl.

[King Tamusk]

I totally want a two-pack of the Masks of Power Demons. It's a great idea that I hope we see one day. Along with the two demons, there needs to be the two orcs, the two masks you can fit over the orcs heads, and a quartz stone that can open and has a sword of the ancients inside.

The Red Demon can reuse a lot of parts from Beast Man, while the Green Demon might require a few more new ones, due to his specific spikes and ridges.

A very fun representation from the mini-comic, for sure.

[JimPansen]

Waitin for Christmas now with the Gooble-Crew

[rankinman]

It's a saternalia miracle. :-p

[Chroniklor]

Yeah !!!

Masks of Power Demons... totally

[SCB]

Two thing I want to say respond to.

1. He-Man should be super strong, around Thor, Superman, Captain Marvel levels. He's battling enormous magic in the forms of Hordak, Skeletor, Evil Lyn, Count Marzo, Shadow Weaver, etc. Then he's going against creatures such as Shadow Beasts, Gy-Gor, Megator, Snake Men, tons of Horde troopers, robots, etc.

A super human man such as Captain America would not be enough to fight such enormity. Plus remember that episode of MYP with King Grayskull? He tore through the Horde armies with his power. He-Man and She-Ra share his physical power and they need it against everything they are up against.

It's not that He-Man's Filmation power would make him look too powerful, it's that everyone else around him already is.

2. He-Man and She-Ra should be separate brands, but should never stop acknowledging each others existence in their cannons. Batman and Superman aired at the same time in the late 90's and would do crossovers together in two part episodes. It was never a problem finding screen time for both since each had their own strengths. She-Ra and He-Man would be the same dynamic. They would have to team up whenever Skeletor and Hordak join forces, much like when Joker and Lex Luthor get together.

Part of the fun with the new Marvel movies is the crossover factor. The characters reference each other even when they aren't in the movie and it makes the entire thing much grander in scope.

[MAXX]

Thanks Val for reading my mail to the question "what did you do to support the line?", that was a nice christmas surprise

And if anyone is interessted in checking the progress of the project, go to this thread, but beware, lots of images are loading and a little quickly made Man-E-Faces Animation at the end of the thread (with subtitles ):
http://www.he-man.org/forums/boards/...eginning-phase

If you have any questions about it, let me know.

Merry Christmas, happy Holidays to you all and a happy new year.

[gbagok]

Whew, on behalf of Blackstar...ouch, Eamon! Getting that Warlock dragon toy was right there up with getting Battle Cat, but that was without having seen the cartoon too.

I can't imagine them not selling She-Ra without the He-Man connection. Not that it couldn't be cool, but the trouble is when she started the show saying "I am Adora, He-Man's twin sister," that was your gravitas in a nutshell. Why do I care what she does? Bam, she's He-Man's sister. Done. It's like the Star Wars prequels posters showing the little boy with Darth Vader's shadow. Some thought it was wrong to use that angle to sell the movie because it demanded knowledge of the original, but no way was it good sense to not tell people why they should care who the kid was (even though we didn't need to know who Luke becomes in order to care about him in the original Star Wars). The reason Xena isn't such a great contrast is she didn't have the same noteworthy connection with Hercules as She-Ra with He-Man. If she'd been Hercules's sister, I think they'd have used that. Hey, I could be wrong, I just don't know how you downplay such an important marketing hook.

[rhea]

Gbagok, I can see you're point in a way ,but that was when She-Ra was a completely new character/property. She doesn't require the He-Man connection now to be introduced to a new audience in a new project because he doesn't have a current project with enough availability to a mass audience for them to build her show off of. Personally, I would like them to still have their relationship, but one of the things I enjoyed about the first She-Ra mini comics was that she was already established as a heroine before He-Man came to Etheria to find her. So, I think they could forgo the He-Man connection initially and perhaps bring in his presence later.

[Crusader]

Masks of Power Demons... totally

I'm still hoping we can get to them before the line ends. They did quite well on the obscure character poll and now we have the Mighty Eamon to champion for them

[iron_pride]

Very good.

[Rodster6]

Hunny Boo Boos family can't be that poor. I refuse to take seriously anyone who claims to be poor yet is grotesquely over weight. That whole show is actually about child abuse.