I dont know. Maybe not in 2013, but I think the line will tank in 2014. I would also expect us to see a whole bunch more Matty exclusives show up at Ollies this year, and maybe everything show up in 2014!!!!
I dont know. Maybe not in 2013, but I think the line will tank in 2014. I would also expect us to see a whole bunch more Matty exclusives show up at Ollies this year, and maybe everything show up in 2014!!!!
I disagree - I think 2014 will see a bit of a resurgence as long as they stick to what has been mooted - i.e. less overall product (12-16 figs at a guess), more heavy hitters and vintage figs in order to round the line out and probably no further price increases until 2015. Also if CG turns out to be a hit maybe some renewed interest and goodwill sub sales as a result.
That said - this is all assumes that Matty/DR keep the screw ups to a min for the foreseeable future.
All conjecture at this point.
Would adding more variants of the most popular figures help the line? I mean most of the POP characters I haven't even heard of. Not to offend She-Ra fans. I'm not saying get rid of those.
I mean even more minicomic versions of popular characters (red Beast Man, green Trap Jaw) or variants that are closer to the vintage figures (Mer-Man with bare feet/hands and orange trunks, He-Man with a vintage face). And more Filmation variants as well. Stuff like that.
Then again, doing so will result in even more convoluted bios (Trap Jaw's older green-skinned brother Too-Lar), so maybe not.![]()
I'm all for variants, but I think that right now, Scott's mission to use 2014-15 to finish off as many vintage figures as possible is the right thing to do. I want every figure from all 3 vintage lines, as well as key filmation/MYP figures before they go back to prototypes and new characters. Ultimately, I don't think the line is strong enough to sustain all these prototype characters, and I want all my classic figures before the line tanks.
Actually, that line only follows if you presume the line wasn't over priced to begin with.
One figure, regular craptastic "standard" shipping, $37 this year for DOS. That is a really, really high price for these figures. They are not *that* impressive, especially when we have all the issues we have to put up with.
There is also the question of lost sales because of this. Personally, I'm buying fewer figures - I am getting a subscription Neotessa. Normally I would have gotten on sale day and bought 2-3 more since she is POP. Same if she had multiple heads, or swap-ability with another figure. I bought extras a lot. Now? I just won't be doing it. So instead of spending $90 or $100 at Matty this month, I'm spending a third of that.
People can justify it all day, but the fact remains the line was very high priced no begin with, it's it like they were giving these things away.
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Exactly! They were overpriced to begin with. When the line first started, I believe the majority thought the price for these would be around $15, along with thinking they would be cheaper than if they sold them at a retail store. $20 was pretty expensive for a figure in 2008.
Matty will get a little bit of my money from not buying extras on sale days anymore with Castle Grayskull, but they are still losing more than they are gaining from me. Every year, the prices are driving me to buy less and less.
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Thank you! I import A LOT of figures, and they can cost up to 100% plus of the original retail price for me to have them shipped here.
We have to remember that the MOTUC is a line of custom figures that are produced in relatively small quantities and only sold to a specific market online. Are they high in price? Yes. Are they over-priced? No. Not when you consider how much the line has grown since it's inception.
If I was told that I would be paying $27.00 per figure in 2013, BUT I would also be offered figures like Granamyr and playsets like Castle Grayskull, then I wouldn't flinch very much because, after all, these are the things we really want as fans. More figures, bigger figures, more accessories, etc.. all add extra labor costs (among others) to a line of figures like MOTUC.
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I respectfully disagree.
Years? As you stated, MOTUC has only completed 4 full years in its existence. (2009, 2010, 2011, 2012) In that same time frame I have seen price increases for other toy lines but ONLY ONE price increase for most of them. If the line had 2 price increases, it was approximately 10% and then another 10%. Not 10% and 21%! And honestly, the big toy price increase across the board came back in 2008/2009 when MOTUC was just getting started. I know I'm only griping about what ends up being $2 per figure, but as the price of the figure has increased, Digital River in their epic wisdom has increased the shipping cost as well. That makes the hit on everyone's wallet even worse.
By the way, I compare MOTUC to Marvel Legends as they have the same scale and somewhat similar articulation. Marvel Legends went from $10 bucks each back in the Toy Biz days up to $15.99 for quite a while. Just now are they reaching the $20 range. MOTUC STARTED at $20 per figure. Call it a decreased amount of production or whatever. But with all of the parts re-usage, and simplicity to maintain the homage to vintage figures (no action features, very few accessories, etc), MOTUC should have started at $15 each and should be $22 just now. Mattel IS making money regardless. They know what they are doing. And we are paying for it. And we will go on paying for it until they get way out of line. Which they will closely manage. And as long as Mattel dangles that carrot as close as they can to the donkey, things will continue as they are.
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It just means I have to buy less figures and be a lot more picky about what I get. In other words there might be months between figures for me from now on.
Scott asked, at Power Con, if, theoretically, we'd pay $30 (inclusive of shipping) if they used something like Amazon as a distributor.
At this point, people are paying $39 and change... Though I still think the shipping this month was based on the Netossa / Ram Man weight. It's really too high. My shipping for two Netossa's is $15.10.
That's INSANE.
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I always thought 20us was a very low price for these masterpieces, never thought we would see so many figures a year though
I'm only waiting for 8 more figures in this line, if they ever get made.
The price hike definitely makes it easier to want to be finished with it, and all Matty's BS.
I'm down for Amazon! Heck, there are figures on there that qualify for free shipping making them cheaper than matty! Griffin is one of them ($37 and free super saver shipping) Snout Spout is another. I'ld gladly support an Amazon distribution!
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Only ordered from Amazon twice, both orders held by customs, so I don't know if it would be a good alternative for international customersOriginally Posted by The All American:3187608
I think subscribers should be fixed at $25.00 (which I think is too much). I don't think the price point will be the death of the line so much as the remaining character selection and interest in some of the D-lister characters/less popular factions/concept stuff.
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I don't remember the word "Amazon" or another distributer in general ever being mentioned there, but people can correct me if I'm wrong. He was just talking or shall I say asking what people would think about figures being a flat $35 a piece or some thing of that nature if shipping was included.
That premise obviously makes NO sense though from the get go though as if you buy more then one figure your blatantly getting ripped off since there's no shipping to combine.
The Amazon argument is dead and has been discussed before repeatedly. For them to sell through Amazon the figures would WITH A DOUBT cost more then they are now and we're already seeing people foaming at the mouth to begin with. It would never work.......
That's not just insane, it's incredibly unfair.
I've ordered figures from Japan and paid for EMS post with cheaper rates than that!
Heck, BBTS ships cheaper and they use the form-fitting bubble wrap that (I assume) costs more than Matty's single sheet of crumpled paper....
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