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    Two-Bad Will Not be a Larger Than Standard Figure

    Read this one in the Q & A's:

    Kastorís Korner: Ram-Man, while larger than a standard MOTU figure, is the first non-giant or beast deluxe figure. Does his release suggest that other off-size characters, such as Two-Bad or Modulok, would also likely be considered deluxe figures, if they were to be made?

    Mattel: Less so for Two-Bad but we could potentially see Modulok or Multi=bot being released this way. Two Bad is really a basic figure. He isnít larger, just has two heads and a slightly wider chest.


    I was under the assumption that Two-Bad would be a larger than standard figure like Ram-Man but it doesn't look like it.

    This is pretty disappointing since not only would it be a good balance to have an oversized figure for both the good and evil warriors but I'm also a little concerned about how he would look with just a larger chest sculpt on the smaller waist and legs.

    I know that's how he was done for the vintage line but I always thought it looked a little goofy and was hoping that they would improve on it for the Classics line.
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    That is kind of odd. I mean, I realize Two-Bad was a basic figure in the vintage line (and 200x) but so was Ram-Man. Classics is the first line where Ram-Man has been placed at a different price point or a different size category than other basic figures. No reason Two-Bad couldn't be, either. I say this not because I think he needs to be larger (scale wise) than the other figures, but just because I want him done right while still coming with one or two accessories.
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    I don't see the problem, 2002 version is not over-sized and it is fantastic! a wider buck is all we need!

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    I never saw Two-Bad as a taller figure, just two regular guys merged together. Maybe wider, like his vintage figure, but that's all.

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    This makes sense to me. Two-Bad was created by fusing two warriors together. As far as we know, those warriors were humanoids of normal height - they were not giants or even oversized humanoids. I don't see why the resulting creature would grow in height.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbecue17 View Post
    That is kind of odd. I mean, I realize Two-Bad was a basic figure in the vintage line (and 200x) but so was Ram-Man. Classics is the first line where Ram-Man has been placed at a different price point or a different size category than other basic figures. No reason Two-Bad couldn't be, either. I say this not because I think he needs to be larger (scale wise) than the other figures, but just because I want him done right while still coming with one or two accessories.
    Two-Bad is a figure that should definitely come with two accessories... They each have their own personality so they should each be able to control a "weapon"

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    Maybe "oversized" isn't the best word to use. I just mean larger than the standard figure like Ram-Man. Ram-Man isn't going to be any taller than the other figures, he's just going to be bigger. That's all I'm looking for for Two-Bad.

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    Leech is a figure we already have who had a wider chest piece but is still a 'regular-sized' figure. I think Two-Bad should be fine.
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    I always pictured Two-Bad slightly shorter than Granamyr, so this makes me VERY angry!
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    Quote Originally Posted by geooco View Post
    Leech is a figure we already have who had a wider chest piece but is still a 'regular-sized' figure. I think Two-Bad should be fine.
    Agreed... He even has a wider hip piece, doesn't he? Something of that size could work very well. I definitely don't think he needs to be Ram-Man width.

    My initial thought at reading the response was that it means we aren't likely to see Two-Bad in a 3-pack with his 2 separate bodies. I was looking forward to getting all three, but this seems to indicate he would come as a standard, single-packaged figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scud View Post
    I always pictured Two-Bad slightly shorter than Granamyr, so this makes me VERY angry!
    I can't tell if you're serious or not. Granamyr is this huge beast of a dragon. In what media has Two-Bad ever been shown to be anywhere close to this size?

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    I can't decide until I see the finished product. He should be close to a normal size figure to be correct in scale, but I can see the appeal of him being a little oversized. The BEST idea I've seen is where he can be separated into his two individual halves and put together. That would make him the only figure I'd actually buy 2 of!

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    I feel that Ram Man was an exception, in regards to his size. I feel that most figures should be the same size going forward. If they were to do a troll, goblin, or something, then maybe a bigger buck. I feel that the 200X characters were drawn in different scales, but the toys should remain at the scale they are currently in. And I definitely DO NOT want a Two Bad that splits apart! I have no confidence in the design team to make this work correctly and I do not want a big crack down the middle of the figure. I want 3 different figures or just Two Bad as a single figure, like was done in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scud View Post
    I always pictured Two-Bad slightly shorter than Granamyr, so this makes me VERY angry!
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    But on the plus side at least Mattel is actually commenting on him, they could have just said that they currently do not have plans for him so conversations concerning him have not taken place.... hopefully that means he is coming soon .....
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    Guess we'll have to wait and see the figure and go from there.

    But in general for me, bigger is better for the baddies. (alliteration )

    I mean, I'm still bummed about how puny Beast Man is.

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    All they're saying is he doesn't need to cost the same as Ram Man since all he is is a larger torso with two heads. This makes sense to me. He was never a giant or a 200x super monster like Clawful.

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    I'm sure the figure will be awesome. They already have more than enough kits to make his legs and arms. The chest piece and two heads is all that really needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobshumway View Post
    Read this one in the Q & A's:

    Kastor’s Korner: Ram-Man, while larger than a standard MOTU figure, is the first non-giant or beast deluxe figure. Does his release suggest that other off-size characters, such as Two-Bad or Modulok, would also likely be considered deluxe figures, if they were to be made?

    Mattel: Less so for Two-Bad but we could potentially see Modulok or Multi=bot being released this way. Two Bad is really a basic figure. He isn’t larger, just has two heads and a slightly wider chest.


    I was under the assumption that Two-Bad would be a larger than standard figure like Ram-Man but it doesn't look like it.

    This is pretty disappointing since not only would it be a good balance to have an oversized figure for both the good and evil warriors but I'm also a little concerned about how he would look with just a larger chest sculpt on the smaller waist and legs.

    I know that's how he was done for the vintage line but I always thought it looked a little goofy and was hoping that they would improve on it for the Classics line.
    Not a surprise actually. The original figure was the same configuration as TG described, so it stands to reason that the update would follow a similar track. Personally I feel that the larger format should be used sparingly and only where warranted. Two-Bad (at least for me) is not that instance. Ram man however is a perfect fit for it. He's large, in charge, and in all senses his up-sized Classics format makes perfect sense. With TB it would seem like indulgence simply to have a balance on the good v.s. bad guy camps.
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    The great thing about the Two Bad answer is that it sounds like he's already planned for the near future. Usually they would say, "But there's no Two Bad figure planned right now".

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    I've got no issues with him being a standard figure with a wider chest/torso. It should work fine.
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    I think that will be fine. What I wouldn't want is a "pancake" torso like the vintage had. But slightly wider whould work just fine
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    I don't have a problem with this. I didn't expect Two-Bad to be oversized.

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    I thought the primary need for the "oversized" sku was to give 100% tooled figures a more effective chance of release in motuc. Two-Bad will be 90% used parts providing we get Tuvar and Baddrah.

    I see Extendar getting this sku though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobshumway View Post
    Maybe "oversized" isn't the best word to use. I just mean larger than the standard figure like Ram-Man. Ram-Man isn't going to be any taller than the other figures, he's just going to be bigger. That's all I'm looking for for Two-Bad.
    Right, but Ram Man needed a new Torso mold, new loincloth, and completely new legs, just based on his design, not for proportion's sake. Because he was also out-of-proportion as a Vintage toy, the 4H and the design team were able to justify the totally new tooling he has and blow-out his proportions the way they did.

    Two-Bad, based on the character's look and vintage figure, could reuse everything a normal MOTUC reuses (lower torso, waist, loincloth, upper legs, upper arms and shoulder joints. The only new piece that is essential and uniquely Two-Badd is the upper torso, made extra wide with two neck-pegs. That's negligible enough, apparently, that the 4H and Mattel's Design team feel they can pull it off properly without a 100% new tool.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonSOS View Post
    I see Extendar getting this sku though.
    I can see it, he needs 100% new tooling. How we're expected to get a fanbase to pay $30 for one of the most unloved Masters out there... Maybe if *everyone* else from the vintage line was done, Scott could market him as "the very last vintage figure", to justify the cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zargon View Post
    But on the plus side at least Mattel is actually commenting on him, they could have just said that they currently do not have plans for him so conversations concerning him have not taken place.... hopefully that means he is coming soon .....
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