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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher of Madness View Post
    We just got a "free apology gift". And then a large number of people on this forum complained that it wasn't what they wanted, and some posited that giving it away for free was somehow helping Mattel (by letting them "write it off") so therefore the sentiment was nothing but greed from Mattel's part anyway.

    And now someone wants more free stuff. Unbelievable.

    Let me write the first post for the thread that starts immediately after this "second free apology gift" comes out:

    "Well, I just got (item name. Doesn't matter what it is really because the rest will be the same). This is so stupid, why would I even want to get (item). Now I have to figure out what to do with it, I probably won't even be able to sell it and I don't have the luxury of just GIVING it away. I bet Matty is getting a huge kickback from making them, probably took all the funding they were going to spend on Rio Blast, and I bet Scott is lying in a huge pile of money laughing right now. Way to bone us again Matty!"
    Amen to that.

    I wonder what the hell is going on lately? Those who are.. let's say "unhappy" with MOTUC, please just show some guts and stop collecting.

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    Those of us that stuck it out, i.e. subscribers, got a free gift already. Why should we get another one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mollusc herald View Post
    There's nothing wrong with capitalism.
    There is PLENTY wrong with capitalism, but this is not the space to debate such a misinformed claim.

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    We're not owed anything by Mattel. In fact, I was very surprised by the first gift offering. Sure they have had more than their fair share of problems with this line, and lord knows I'm guilty of the occasional derogatory coment, but I'm not expecting any more free handouts. As far as I'm concerned, the company has already done right by me.
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    Seriously TC... get real.

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    This is gonna sound cheesy but my gift is the fact that these figures are even being made. I never thought I'd ever own a Shadow Weaver. Okay, so I had to pay for it and subscribe to a year's worth of product, but I'm just happy we're even getting these things made! If they keep 'peppering' in accessories with the figures like the Fangman sword, then that'll keep me happy! And, sure, the line is not without its issues but when I look at some of the stuff we've got, I'm pretty happy to be collecting, and I don't need someone to offer me free gifts to carry on. If people start voting with their wallets then that's fine, up to them, and if I was ****** with the line I'd make a stand presumably and stop collecting, but we're not there yet and I'm happy to get whatever I can afford!
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    Don't we all wish we could get free stuff when we felt we "deserved" it
    Some companies do giveaways and drawings, but they are usually limited to only a handful of winners. If you were a Mattel shareholder, how would you feel if they just started giving away free stuff to everyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vikor View Post
    And vice-versa for all those who go for the throat just because someone expresses an opinion that falls outside of the domain of capitalist logic.
    I went for the throat, did I?

    No...there were no Mods blowing me up with infractions this time, so I must still be painting inside the lines.

    Quote Originally Posted by Terry75 View Post
    People's false sense of entitlement never fails to astound me.
    Agreed, my friend. It sickens me, but it does serve as something of a study of our "Me First and the Gimme-Gimme's" society in a microcosm.
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    A lot of love would go Toyguru and Matty's way if Shadow Weaver became available for general sale on the site. Those who bagged a subscription figure, including myself, have had enough time to reap the benefits/scalp ebayers. Time that everyone gets one!
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    Why would Mattel give us free stuff? You don't go into McDonald's and ask for free food just because you've bought a lot of their burgers over the years.

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    I thought this thread would be overwhelmed with disagreement, and no doubt its from the orgers who have the best pricing, lowest shipping rates, and easiest access to purchasing and trading. They often forget that the rest of us really have to shell out money to collect this line. The whole 'if you don't like it, don't buy it' argument is nothing more than snappy retort from people who just care to have for themselves.

    Companies give freebies away all the time. Asking for a freebie is neither wrong, or in poor taste. We are talking toys here, not lifetime subscriptions or gold bars. We have seen the vast surplus of figures that get moved around for various reasons. There is no harm in asking for a little something, better sales and more opportunities to have the products we try to buy, given what some of us have to endure to collect this line.

    For those who received the 'apology gifts' of Mer-Man and various other figures for whatever reason, and complained. Easy solutions there. Give it to someone else. Help someone else out. This thread is not meant to be a capitalist/socialist argument. Its not meant to rile anyone. You either want a free figure, or you don't. Coming here and making snarky insinuations about what it means to ask for a free figure, is in bad taste, and saying its a bad idea doesn't serve to help anyone.

    I won't be returning to this thread anymore, I can see where it is going. Not even worth my time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Waters View Post
    I went for the throat, did I?

    No...there were no Mods blowing me up with infractions this time, so I must still be painting inside the lines.



    Agreed, my friend. It sickens me, but it does serve as something of a study of our "Me First and the Gimme-Gimme's" society in a microcosm.
    I didn't say you specifically went for the throat, but certainly this thread in generally could serve as a case study in how message board posters attack and vilify those with alternative opinions. The fact that you are now talking about being "sickened", well now that's going for the throat as far as I'm concerned.

    This threat isn't about greed and selfishness in my view, what I think is being expressed here is about a measure of goodwill towards the fans. And even broader than that, there is this thing called reciprocity, where people share with each other and exchange goods and services outside of a capitalist system. Does it sicken you that I sometimes mow my neighbour's yard just because, and in return they bring us apples from their apple tree from time to time? Does it sicken you that my brother sometimes looks after my kids and doesn't see a dime, but instead we'll have his family over for dinner? Does it sicken you that people in my neighbourhood share rides to work rather than all driving ourselves or taking taxis? Does it sicken you when a group of friends organize a potluck dinner and have a wonderful feast? Does it sicken you that Wikipedia exists, where countless people contribute their own hard work and intelligence to a project that's value for humanity is so infinite that it is intangible?

    There are plenty of alternatives to capitalism that just make good sense, and I've noted only a few of them. But what was being proposed here in this thread isn't even necessarily a clean break from capitalism. Giving a gift, which Mattel has already set a precedent for (and bravo to them for that!), is often a really great business move because it procures a great deal of brand loyalty. Ever get a bonus at work, or a pat on the back as employee of the month? Same thing. It is about building morale, and it makes good BUSINESS sense as well. I don't think anyone is telling Mattel how to do business, it was just a suggestion. A suggestion made on a message board of fans, a suggestion without ill intent, a suggestion to gauge the opinion of others. In the end, just a suggestion. So why attack the individual for making it? Calling him names like "greedy", "selfish", and "entitled". This is reprehensible behavior, and it is one of the reasons why this website's posters have such a bad reputation. It is also one of the reasons why I lurked for so long rather than being a poster. I'm start questioning my decision to chime in when I see how vicious some of you can be when someone holds an opinion that is alternative to your own.

    A little bit of respect and civility go a long way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky Breaker
    I thought this thread would be overwhelmed with disagreement, and no doubt its from the orgers who have the best pricing, lowest shipping rates, and easiest access to purchasing and trading. They often forget that the rest of us really have to shell out money to collect this line. The whole 'if you don't like it, don't buy it' argument is nothing more than snappy retort from people who just care to have for themselves.

    Companies give freebies away all the time. Asking for a freebie is neither wrong, or in poor taste. We are talking toys here, not lifetime subscriptions or gold bars. We have seen the vast surplus of figures that get moved around for various reasons. There is no harm in asking for a little something, better sales and more opportunities to have the products we try to buy, given what some of us have to endure to collect this line.

    For those who received the 'apology gifts' of Mer-Man and various other figures for whatever reason, and complained. Easy solutions there. Give it to someone else. Help someone else out. This thread is not meant to be a capitalist/socialist argument. Its not meant to rile anyone. You either want a free figure, or you don't. Coming here and making snarky insinuations about what it means to ask for a free figure, is in bad taste, and saying its a bad idea doesn't serve to help anyone.

    I won't be returning to this thread anymore, I can see where it is going. Not even worth my time.
    The problem with your suggestion is that people expect ricidulous free stuff from Matty. Remember when Toyguru said that subscribers were getting a free figure for the Frosta thing? People were expecting anything from a newly tooled weapon to a newly tooled figure. That's ridiculous. Then when the Mer-Mans and the Sy-Klones and the Stratoses and the Buzz-Offs started showing up, what happened? People started complaining and even saying what a failure that was, and, let's be honest here, they got a free figure for a QC issue that wasn't even noticeable.

    So imagine that yeah, Toyguru says "hey, Sky Breaker brings a valid point, we should give the fans a free gift." What would you be expecting to get? If said free gift is a sticker sheet, would that disappoint you? If it's a green Power Sword in a polybag?

    Let's be realistic here, and this is not a jab at any fan in particular, but a LOT of orgers like to whine. Don't take my word for it, just go to the Free Figure for the Frosta Forearm Fiasco thread and to the one where it was announced that the free figure was going to be a figure of Matty's choice. It's ridiculous the amount of posts complaining about a free figure.

    Honestly, they don't have to give us anything, and I wouldn't expect anything for free from them.

    Oh, and just so you know, I'm a cherry picker. I pay $27 per figure this year, and insane shipping prices. I don't buy, sell or trade on the org. I didn't get a free figure for the Frosta thing.
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    While Mattel sending a token of appreciation to loyal customers (either subbers or non-subscribing repeat MOTUC customers throughout the 4-5 years that the line's been alive) sounds cool; I don't see them doing that.

    If and that's a big IF... they did that, I'd expect something simple as a Power Sword Repaint at most... a Full figure is not needed. The least I'd expect is an e-mail from Matty saying something along the lines of "thanks for your support"

    They don't HAVE TO, but if they do, that'd be really cool!
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    I do see a huge entitlement mentality in this world today and it is ridiculous. That said I do not believe that is what the topic poster was saying at all. I think a free gift to fans is a great idea,it is great for business as well keep old fans happy and gaining new ones. If they did a free gift again,do not announce it,just give it away. I think accessories or anything is great fo fans.

    This has nothing to do with politics,just great treatment of loyal customers. That builds a great future for fans and company alike.

    Now my friends will be the first to say they are careful when sitting in my chair,it leans to the right,but I am all for fre gifts as customer relations.

    We defenitaly have a entitlement problem in this world,but perhaps if we had a heart and helped out each other once and a while,governments would not have to.

    I love getting presents,but I truly love giving more. Mattel can be the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonWes View Post
    To be honest... I'd rather they make up for past mistakes by not making them again! That'd make me happy.
    This a thousand times.

    Also as others have pointed out, we do get free posters with the sub. We'll be getting one with the castle as well. We also got an apology figure over what happened with Frosta. The figures are over all, fantastic. Bring on the rest of the year!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky Breaker View Post
    I thought this thread would be overwhelmed with disagreement, and no doubt its from the orgers who have the best pricing, lowest shipping rates, and easiest access to purchasing and trading. They often forget that the rest of us really have to shell out money to collect this line. The whole 'if you don't like it, don't buy it' argument is nothing more than snappy retort from people who just care to have for themselves.

    Companies give freebies away all the time. Asking for a freebie is neither wrong, or in poor taste. We are talking toys here, not lifetime subscriptions or gold bars. We have seen the vast surplus of figures that get moved around for various reasons. There is no harm in asking for a little something, better sales and more opportunities to have the products we try to buy, given what some of us have to endure to collect this line.

    For those who received the 'apology gifts' of Mer-Man and various other figures for whatever reason, and complained. Easy solutions there. Give it to someone else. Help someone else out. This thread is not meant to be a capitalist/socialist argument. Its not meant to rile anyone. You either want a free figure, or you don't. Coming here and making snarky insinuations about what it means to ask for a free figure, is in bad taste, and saying its a bad idea doesn't serve to help anyone.

    I won't be returning to this thread anymore, I can see where it is going. Not even worth my time.
    You're seriously misinformed, or rather I feel, just making up base assertions that you can't back up. Where, per chance, have you gotten even a bit of backing for your statements on which orgers are the ones disagreeing? I guarantee you I do not get the lowest shipping rates, best pricing (whatever that means) and easiest access to purchasing (you mean a computer and the ability to type in URLs?).

    Is asking for a freebie wrong or in poor taste? No. What it is, though, is horribly and selfishly misguided.

    And yes, saying its a bad idea does serve to help because it helps, in theory, over-entitled people get a better grip on common sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho View Post
    Why would Mattel give us free stuff? You don't go into McDonald's and ask for free food just because you've bought a lot of their burgers over the years.
    But you can come in and get free water-downed coffee this month.

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    Bad form to start a thread and then say you won't come back. LOL. But I'm wondering if maybe you just chose poor words and didn't mean 'free gift' and instead meant 'sub extras'? Like sticker sheets or an accessory here and there? IDK, that I could see. Not a 'free gift' figure exclusive or anything, but I have to admit I love the maps and little extras Mattel gives and wouldn't mind seeing more of those. Perhaps his delivery is off and we're being too harsh?

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    I'd never turn down a free gift but I appreciate them more when they're a suprise and not asked for. The only thing I expect or demand is good service and a good product in exchange for my hard earned dollar. As long as they give me that I'm very happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by He-Dude View Post
    Who asks for a free gift... I mean really...
    Lol.

    Sigh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vikor View Post
    I didn't say you specifically went for the throat, but certainly this thread in generally could serve as a case study in how message board posters attack and vilify those with alternative opinions. The fact that you are now talking about being "sickened", well now that's going for the throat as far as I'm concerned.

    This threat isn't about greed and selfishness in my view, what I think is being expressed here is about a measure of goodwill towards the fans. And even broader than that, there is this thing called reciprocity, where people share with each other and exchange goods and services outside of a capitalist system. Does it sicken you that I sometimes mow my neighbour's yard just because, and in return they bring us apples from their apple tree from time to time? Does it sicken you that my brother sometimes looks after my kids and doesn't see a dime, but instead we'll have his family over for dinner? Does it sicken you that people in my neighbourhood share rides to work rather than all driving ourselves or taking taxis? Does it sicken you when a group of friends organize a potluck dinner and have a wonderful feast? Does it sicken you that Wikipedia exists, where countless people contribute their own hard work and intelligence to a project that's value for humanity is so infinite that it is intangible?

    There are plenty of alternatives to capitalism that just make good sense, and I've noted only a few of them. But what was being proposed here in this thread isn't even necessarily a clean break from capitalism. Giving a gift, which Mattel has already set a precedent for (and bravo to them for that!), is often a really great business move because it procures a great deal of brand loyalty. Ever get a bonus at work, or a pat on the back as employee of the month? Same thing. It is about building morale, and it makes good BUSINESS sense as well. I don't think anyone is telling Mattel how to do business, it was just a suggestion. A suggestion made on a message board of fans, a suggestion without ill intent, a suggestion to gauge the opinion of others. In the end, just a suggestion. So why attack the individual for making it? Calling him names like "greedy", "selfish", and "entitled". This is reprehensible behavior, and it is one of the reasons why this website's posters have such a bad reputation. It is also one of the reasons why I lurked for so long rather than being a poster. I'm start questioning my decision to chime in when I see how vicious some of you can be when someone holds an opinion that is alternative to your own.

    A little bit of respect and civility go a long way.
    Couldn't have said it better. Bravo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vikor View Post
    In the end, just a suggestion. So why attack the individual for making it? Calling him names like "greedy", "selfish", and "entitled". This is reprehensible behavior, and it is one of the reasons why this website's posters have such a bad reputation. It is also one of the reasons why I lurked for so long rather than being a poster. I'm start questioning my decision to chime in when I see how vicious some of you can be when someone holds an opinion that is alternative to your own.

    A little bit of respect and civility go a long way.
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