It's going to be awesome!
And as far as "the way it is now"? Still not because of sub support. The way you know this is very simple, as one has only to look at everything else on MattyCollector that never did, and never would've made it to any kind of thermometer quota, and yet the product still shows up, and still sells just fine.
I think it's HIGHLY optimistic to expect a "full year" for 2015, and I even expect another big dip in sub sales this summer. As long as they continue with the same rigid, fan-UNfriendly structure, that is.My question to you is,if we get full years for 2014 and 2015 and then just some filler after that,is the line as you say at its demise?
That's probably a fair assessment, but IMO it speaks more of his character and actions than it does mine.I just think you are someone that will never be happy with anything Scott does.
Especially since I am FAR from the only one who has drawn similar conclusions.
Where I'm coming from is looking at a line that, thanks to the talents of the 4H and their talents alone, could pretty much run itself. What sold this line was word-of-mouth based 100%, solely on the merits of the quality of action figure design and sculpt that the Four Horsemen delivered--initially out of the blue, totally unsolicited, mind you. Scott has opted to insert himself in a rather unwelcome manner into every single facet of this line, transforming it from what could've been a smoothly-running, collector-catered line to one that is largely a self-aggrandizing vanity project with missteps and problems every step of the way.You seem to always have failure as your outcome for every endgame imaginable. Again,this line will end some day,so what ate your expectations? Honestly,mine have already been meet,if we finish out 2015 complete I say this was successful.
I really am trying to see where you are coming from,but you give Scott and company. O credit for the good,and all blame for the bad.
If I had to quantify it, easily 90% of the good ideas for this line have come from either the 4H, or from fan suggestion/feedback. Now, let's consider the source of bad ideas, and it's not even a fair fight . . .
I feel I'm totally fair-minded and will recognize credit where its due.
Did Scott make a successful pitch to his superiors at Mattel to get a greenlight? Yes.
But beyond that, I just don't see it.
And if you weigh the harm done against the good, IMO the result isn't in his favor.
It's going to be awesome!
As of today, Mattel is continuing to sell the castle under false pretense by listing specs they know are wrong on the pre-order page, therefore ToyGuru's claims about being upfront ring hollow.
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Guess I'm one of the few folks who are now sold on preordering in the current, second round. I was coming off of the Hoverboard debacle in December and wasn't interested in preordering a damn thing from Matty. I think the Castle looks good despite the shrinkage, and the cancel-ability post SDCC is a safety net. Toys R Us is charging $250 for the vintage Millennium Falcon re-release. I don't think the Castle pricing is out of line.
But I agree.....now that they know the exact dimensions, they should post the correct info.....but who knows, maybe it shrinks a little more once in plastic form?
Keep The "Classicized" 200x Heads in MOTUC!
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Y'all crazy... lol... the castle still looks amazing and I'm glad I ordered it. I don't want it any bigger.
Personally, I have no problem with the current size as long as they fix the jawbridge/head clearance issue and don't cut any accessories. That said, I will still purchase the Castle either way. Even though I don't always like what Scott has to say, at least there is communication and straightforward answers.
Not happy with this response..to me it seems like excuses..whether or not he really believed what Mattel was promising I dont know..but corporate Mattel won in the end. I dont believe WE made the playset happen..it was always going to happen in my opinion. I feel the only reason MOTUC is not available in stores is mainly for a more focused audience and less inventory.
Thats just my opinion!
Anyway..in case noones noticed, the new motuc castle grayskull and the 200x grayskull are about the same size..I posted a link to a video someone put up displaying a motuc trapjaw in relation to it. at 12:30 in the video..youll even see that the ceilings are even higher on the 200x version. I personally feel Mattel was aware of this and patterned the new castle grayskull based on that size. The video is also posted in the castle discussion
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On a more positive note, the MOTUC Castle Grayskull will be more in scale to our vintage figures. So the worse case scenario is that I will display my vintage figures with it and hide the vintage castle behind it.
If they stretch the Jaw bridge out it may not look right at all. All in all, it is too expensive for what we are getting but who wants to be without the official Grayskull? They got us... I'm not happy about it but I can't promise that I won't cancel. The constant double talk and over-promise/under-deliver that TG spews may just be enough to make me cancel. That video with him and the tape measure just made me uncomfortable... I felt like he thought he was talking to dummies.
This castle is going to be unbelievably awesome. The centerpiece of any persons collection. People were willing to pay alot more than this for just a castle front facing. I'm super excited. Childhood dreams come true!
Well since they raised the current pre-order price 10%, why can't we get 10% more castle?
If at least #4 on the list happens I'll probably keep all my pre-orders.
Its funny to see a 9995584738832345 thank you posts for Scott's "Clearing the Air" (???) thread which has absolutely ZERO new news ! Not sure if this has become a trend lately.
But as I said on the CG main thread, It’s pretty much like beating a dead horse & nothing is going to change !
One thing is for sure, no matter how many posts/threads we make, No matter how much we scream, I don’t think Scott is going to revisit CG all over again.
This thread can get another 10 pages of out-raged fan posts, but trust me, Scott’s attitude will still be like……………………
(Remember Stone Cold Steve Austin’s 1996 King Of The Ring Speech)
Scott (To Fans) : "You sit there, and you thump your Castle Grayskull B-Sheets, and you say your prayers….. And it didn’t get you anywhere ! Talk about your Castle Grayskull dreams…. Talk about the size differences…… talk about foam mock-up 3:16,
Scott 3:16 says………….. I Just Fooled Your Ass" !!!!!!!!!!
Post #84 in this thread as to why I think people are saying their appreciative.
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Rock People: Granita
NA: Darius / Sebrian / Crita
Thanks Scott for this reply.
I know you probably have to respect some economical constraints, you are tied and bound, and Mattel doesnt let you do what you would want to do as a passionate collector you are, but try to explain Mattel that s really important they succeed perfectly this item.
Even if they have to sacrifice a bit of money and get a lower gain on the castle.
Cause this is the Graal for all motuc collectors and you have to succeed to satisfy ALL of us. It s not like a figure, where it s impossible to get the unanimity. To satisfy all of us, the castle would need to be a bit taller and to have all accessories. And you promised that Scott. I think we dont have to accept not to have all the accessories cause the production is more expensive than you thought.
You should accept to decrease the gain on the castles sales to increase the number of fans and assure the continuity of the toyline.
I am sure if you explain that to Mattel, they have to accept to lose a bit to win a lot more later, they could undertstand and accept to modify the castle.
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I can't believe how negative some "fans" are
Every time against every word Mattel wrote to us... makes not fun to read these posts.
Every day the same users... I know everybody can't like everything but THIS seems sometimes is not only simple criticism, some are against Mattel in everything they are doing and that is not fine I think. We are getting so many awesome figures through the year aaaand Castle Grayskull!!!
And it looks fantastic! And they hear about fans and making changes!!!
Not everything is perfect for everyone but why so angry after so good toys and news???
Sory for my english, isn't perfect... but I hope you understand what I want to say
It has the potential to be perfect if Mattel wouldn't be so eager to turn this into a quick buck again.
"A knight is sworn to valor. His heart knows only virtue. His blade defends the helpless. His word speaks only truth. His wrath undoes the wicked."