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    Illumina, Red Beast, Dare or Crimson Rose?

    New answer from Toyguru.

    "In the plan we hit all vintage MOTU and POP as well as key NA figures. We also hit character from other media that are major fan request ( ie Geldor, Shokoti, etc...)

    What we don't hit are some of the NA more obscure toys and variants and some POP variants (ie Shower Power Catra, Too tall Hoove).

    Obviously this is dependent each year on hitting the sub number etc, but if we get to 2014 and 2015, the revised roadmap should complete the major MIA characters including vintage toy characters. With rising costs, we want to maximize each slot. What you won't see until a potential 2016 line are characters like Illumina, Red Beast, Dare or Crimson Rose. (Unless of course any of those figs are in the yet announced 2013 slots)."


    Potential hint for an unannounced slot? I am hoping for Dare.
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    Red Beast Plz!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockinHard View Post
    No Shower Power Catra? This line is a DISASTER!!!!
    Nooooooo!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    No Oo-Larr. Bummer.
    Yeah. No one has requested that figure.
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    Terrible.
    This ticks me off. I would like an Illumina, Dare, and especially Red Beast. Those are the reasons I'm even still interested. I don't care about any vintage figures that are left. I really hope that a slot or slots (SDCC?) left in 2013 are for concepts.
    It's a shame that Scott bought into the repetitive posts from the louder-than-numerous people who freaked out about concept characters last summer.

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    I'm wondering if we might not see a Dare vs son of Skeletor 2-pack as a SDCC exclusive? Iit would be a good way to re-use that He-Man statue they always modify and lug out.
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    How is that a hint? He all but says that those characters aren't possible until 2016. It's the un-hintiest hint there's ever been. It's basically a tombstone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadley View Post
    How is that a hint? He all but says that those characters aren't possible until 2016. It's the un-hintiest hint there's ever been. It's basically a tombstone.
    Because of the comment unless one is included already in the sub.
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    Man, they really need to do Red Beast. They should have done him for the 30th.
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    It's the right thing to do to keep the line alive. Obscure stuff is overrated and don't sell well on secondary market, so not many casual customers want it.

    Producing characters, that are strongly demanded is the best way to keep most customers for another year. The line can't exist only for hardcore fans, who want all characters.

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    I think he means Crimson Fury, not Crimson Rose. Or am I mistaken and there is a Crimson Rose?

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    I'm sad Toyguru put Illumina so far down the line for a possibility (3 years away?!). I mean, Toyguru said via his video announcement (before everyone knew the voting was officially over), that Geldor beat Illumina by ONLY 20 votes. I mean, does that not clearly state she's FAN DEMANDED, just like Geldor?

    Of the characters shown, I would prefer Illumina. Red Beast is basically Beastman...just red, and even though I LOVE Dare and Crimson Fury (if TG is referring to him), the line won't feel incomplete if we do not get any of those characters. For me, the line will feel incomplete if we do not get an Illumina figure. Not only does she have a great design and a killer, proposed, backstory...to me Illumina also represents the MOTU fandom and community. Fans created a website (the .org), worked their way up to working on the official MOTU comic (and created Illumina), fans bought the comics, got interested in the character, she became somewhat of a mascot and she won the .org Fan Vote. For me, Illumina represents the fandom that has always stuck by the MOTU brand; through the great days in the 80's and through all the rough patches. Especially the times when there was nothing "MOTU" in the general public. That's when WE were trapped behind the wall (like the wall Illumina was trapped behind).

    EDIT: Also, I am sad about the possibility of not getting Shower Power Catra. Catra had 3 versions (4, now that the Filmation one has been made). How many He-Man variants have we had so far? Half the line?

    Quote Originally Posted by King Tamusk View Post
    I think he means Crimson Fury, not Crimson Rose. Or am I mistaken and there is a Crimson Rose?
    There's a girl in the MOTU Filmation cartoon that was a rose. I forget her name, but she had an important duty. Orko picked it from a mountain for Dree Elle and bad things happened. I figure TG means Crimson Fury or her. Not sure which.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkspecter View Post
    Red Beast is basically Beastman...just red
    ...the line won't feel incomplete if we do not get any of those characters.
    I'm with you on Illumina, but Red Beast is very different from Beast Man. He's more bear/werewolf like, whereas Beast Man is an ape. The designs are quite different. Saying he's "Beast Man, just red" is like saying Demo Man is "Skeletor, just green".
    The line will certainly feel incomplete without him, as we would then have 2 of the concept sketches, rather than all 3.
    I feel it would also be incomplete without Dare. Just my opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Berserker79 View Post
    It's the right thing to do to keep the line alive. Obscure stuff is overrated and don't sell well on secondary market, so not many casual customers want it.

    Producing characters, that are strongly demanded is the best way to keep most customers for another year. The line can't exist only for hardcore fans, who want all characters.
    The characters listed here are demanded, and most of the truly popular vintage characters have been released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiplash7 View Post
    I'm with you on Illumina, but Red Beast is very different from Beast Man. He's more bear/werewolf like, whereas Beast Man is an ape. The designs are quite different. Saying he's "Beast Man, just red" is like saying Demo Man is "Skeletor, just green".
    The line will certainly feel incomplete without him, as we would then have 2 of the concept sketches, rather than all 3.
    I feel it would also be incomplete without Dare. Just my opinion.
    OH! I was thinking mini-comics RED Beastman. I forgot about the bear thing. It would be cool to have a bear in MOTU.





    I would like Dare too...and Kay-La.
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    Re: Illumina, Red Beast, Dare or Crimson Rose

    IF I had to select one to be released in 2013, then I would select Dare.

    But, I'm glad to hear that IF there is a 2014 and 2015, then they will focus on vintage MOTU and POP. I can't even begin to imagine a MOTUC collection that includes Rokkon, Stonedar, Extendar, Modulok, Entrapta, Glimmer, Queen Angella, Double Trouble, Mermista, Peekablue, Flutterina, Sweet Bee, Kowl, Loo-Kee, Spinnerella and Perfuma! But, that would be pretty awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkspecter View Post
    For me, the line will feel incomplete if we do not get an Illumina figure. Not only does she have a great design and a killer, proposed, backstory...to me Illumina also represents the MOTU fandom and community. Fans created a website (the .org), worked their way up to working on the official MOTU comic (and created Illumina), fans bought the comics, got interested in the character, she became somewhat of a mascot and she won the .org Fan Vote. For me, Illumina represents the fandom that has always stuck by the MOTU brand; through the great days in the 80's and through all the rough patches. Especially the times when there was nothing "MOTU" in the general public. That's when WE were trapped behind the wall (like the wall Illumina was trapped behind).
    I just wanted to say that this is exactly how I feel about the character and why it means a lot to me that she gets in the line at some point. I realize that not everyone feels that way, but I think there are a lot of us on the org that do.

    I still think she should have been in place of Geoff John's slot in the 30th anniversary sub as she much better represented the essence of what that line was supposed to be about (as Mattel pitched it, anyway).

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    I would LOVE it if Illumina were this year! And that would get Scott a ton of good will, which wouldn't hurt right about now!

    Quote Originally Posted by King Tamusk View Post
    I think he means Crimson Fury, not Crimson Rose. Or am I mistaken and there is a Crimson Rose?
    Can someone refresh me as to who those two are?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mern-Ra View Post
    I would LOVE it if Illumina were this year! And that would get Scott a ton of good will, which wouldn't hurt right about now!



    Can someone refresh me as to who those two are?
    Crimson Fury:



    The full issue 10 of the UK She-Ra magazing can be read here:

    http://he-man.org/publishing/item.php?id=2050

    The woman I was thinking of from Filmation, is the Goddess from The Bitter Rose episode. Here's the synopsis:

    Man-At-Arms presents a gift to the king and queen, a painting of the famous Bitter Rose, which was formed by the tears of a goddess looking for her warrior husband. Dree Elle fawns over the fable, and Orko decides he should give her the Bitter Rose. Orko plucks it from Rose Mountain, causing the mountain to crumble. The avalanches threaten the home of the Insect People. Skeletor sends Beast Man and Trap Jaw to steal the Bitter Rose. He-Man protects the Insect People's village from the avalanche. Orko is captured and taken back to Snake Mountain, but Garth saves him. Beast Man and Trap Jaw pursue them in the Roton, but their blasts accidentally hit the rose and wither it. The love between Orko and Dree Elle brings the Bitter Rose back to life. They return the rose, stabilizing Rose Mountain. The rose turns into the goddess, whose bitterness has finally been cured by Orko's act of love in giving her rose as a gift to Dree Elle. She allows vegetation to grow on Rose Mountain and disappears, finally fulfilled.
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    Illumina & Sleetah boxset, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkspecter View Post
    The woman I was thinking of from Filmation, is the Goddess from The Bitter Rose episode. Here's the synopsis:



    http://www.bustatoons.com/blog_image...se_goddess.jpg
    I'd like her, too, she looks cool. :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by evenflow View Post
    New answer from Toyguru.

    "In the plan we hit all vintage MOTU and POP as well as key NA figures. We also hit character from other media that are major fan request ( ie Geldor, Shokoti, etc...)

    What we don't hit are some of the NA more obscure toys and variants and some POP variants (ie Shower Power Catra, Too tall Hoove).

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    Potential hint for an unannounced slot? I am hoping for Dare.
    I really wouldn't read too much into that comment. Scott is cryptic and likes to throw fans of track so that he keeps his SDCC Reveals a secret.

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    I'd like to see Val given his due and make illumina. I know some people would say that they might be bigger fans, and that may be true. But come on, he did the 200X comic, he's head of the .org and they even mention his fandom in helping keeping the torch burning on the 200X animated DVD.
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