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    Proof that the SKELETEEN concept came from the late 1980's...

    Well, apparently eagle eyed 13977 was digging through this screen shot from the powerpoint presentation of the MOTUC reveals back in July of 2011 (at 2011 SDC) and noticed an interesting factoid -



    Notice one the very last line it says "meet SkeleTeen on his own ground."

    This seems to be proof that the name SkeleTeen did indeed originate from the old New Adventures ("Dare armor" version) prototype material from the late eighties/early nineties...and shows that Scott Neitlich didn't just come up with the name like some have speculated

    I hope one day we get to see the whole early-NA/Dare/Skeleteen bible as it's prob got some super interesting infos in it!

    (I feel particularly stupid as I actually tried to decipher the above back when it was shown at SDCC 2011, and completely missed the SkeleTeen bit! Duh!!!)

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    EDIT: In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the reason one of the versions of NA Skeletor had a pony tail, was because he was based on the design for a cool early-nineties teen SkeleTeen, and that design got carried over when they decided to stick with Skeletor as the main villain...



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    Come up with it on his own or rescued a canned idea from the past. It doesn't matter, it's still a silly name.


    Just watch. Next Dare won't turn into 'He-Ro', but will become 'He-Teen'.
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    I am really glad it turned out to be a concept from the 80's as I know there have been some who have doubted this and often want to call into question everything Scott says or claims - glad this seems to be proof he is genuin.

    Still the name is really annoying.
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    Skeleteen is a horrible name.
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    I don't mind the concept for moving the story forward, wish he wasn't the villain wish he came out good. The problem I and many others have is the name is just bad even for a toyline with the names it has in it.
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    Good catch

    I think for many people it doesn't matter of it was made in the late 80's or in 2013...Skeleteen is a terrible...terrible name. And this is a line with names like Clawful or Castaspella (sorry I love you sweetie but you have a very silly name )
    It is spelled "Crita", not "Critta". Misspell her name and Crita will knock the "T" out of you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MISSILE-TOE View Post

    EDIT: In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the reason one of the versions of NA Skeletor had a pony tail, was because he was based on the design for a cool early-nineties teen SkeleTeen, and that design got carried over when they decided to stick with Skeletor as the main villain...

    http://www.he-man.org/assets/images/..._back_full.jpg

    http://www.bustatoons.com/blog_image...evealed_02.jpg
    So that is why NA skeletor's face looks like a mask, with the human eyes!!! because its based on skeleteen's face design and not vintage skeletor's face!!!! Amazing!

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    Yeah, it's an aweful name regardless of when it was created or by whom. As goofy as some MOTU names can be, none of them are in any way related to the character's age. What the hell happens when 'Skeleteen' turns 20? And what did they call him from when he was born through the age of 12?

    I actually do hope that we get a Dare/He-Ro figure at some point because I actually do like at least some aspects of that 'bible' for the proposed cartoon from 1996. But as I recall from that specific version (it's been a while since I've read it), it dealt with Dare taking over the power sword, but Skeletor was still the main villain. I don't recall Skeletor having a son in that bible. And that works IMO since with Skeletor being such a magic based being regardless of which origin you prefer for him, he could potentially be the kind of villain that continues to exist for multiple generations. There is no need for there to even be an offspring of Skeletor. But if one will exist regardless, at least give him a better name... and a better look for that matter. Don't make him look like a rejected villain concept for Biker Mice From Mars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LANTERN-RO View Post
    So that is why NA skeletor's face looks like a mask, with the human eyes!!! because its based on skeleteen's face design and not vintage skeletor's face!!!! Amazing!
    There's nothing to indicate that. None of Mattel's Skeletor figures have ever had eyes, just glowing red sockets, and that includes the New Adventures ones. Only the Jetlag cartoon depicted Skeletor with eyeballs.

    To me it doesn't matter if the SkeleTeen name (and design?) is from the 80s or not, it's still terrible. I certainly don't consider it "too cool not to use" (Neitlich's words). It should have stayed in the trash where it belongs.

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    skeleteen as gooda name as he man or skeletor. as usual those names get a pass because we are used to them not because they are not silly.

    skeleteen. sure why not? i know old argument but how are people still supprised about how the line works when we already knew this from go?

    buzz off, fisto, Catra... all "silly", all perfectly fine. as is skeleteen. i actually having it grow more and more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baronterror View Post
    skeleteen as gooda name as he man or skeletor. as usual those names get a pass because we are used to them not because they are not silly.

    skeleteen. sure why not? i know old argument but how are people still supprised about how the line works when we already knew this from go?

    buzz off, fisto, Catra... all "silly", all perfectly fine. as is skeleteen. i actually having it grow more and more.
    So just because MOTU has had some campy names in the past, fans should be happy with any lame names that get created or used now?

    This isn't any old heroic warrior, evil warrior or Horde member, this is the son of Skeletor. He deserves better than to be ridiculed because of his non-threatening, lame name.

    I haven't seen this much dislike for a name since the first "real" names were introduced. I think that speaks for itself as far as the fandom is concerned.
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    Imagine that skeleteen is not using a simple mask but Skeletor's skull as a mask! That must be a bloody powerfull ítem!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dedset13 View Post
    I haven't seen this much dislike for a name since the first "real" names were introduced. I think that speaks for itself as far as the fandom is concerned.
    I think that is likely the most compelling argument against the name; the backlash is far bigger than that for Squiddish Rex and Hector combined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The All American View Post
    A bad name and bad concept is a bad name and a bad concept. Sorry Skeleteen, you are not nostalgia worthy.

    I feel the same way with the Dare/He-Ro Filmation cartoon pitch, just not worthy of Masters of the Universe. Interesting historical tidbits, but let's leave it at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MISSILE-TOE View Post
    EDIT: In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the reason one of the versions of NA Skeletor had a pony tail, was because he was based on the design for a cool early-nineties teen SkeleTeen, and that design got carried over when they decided to stick with Skeletor as the main villain...
    From what little I've seen on the inside, this isn't the case (no Skeleteen/Battle Blade Skeletor connection).

    However, in Filmation's pitch circa 1988/89 for He-Man and the Masters of Space, a show featuring the characters from the new He-Man line, Skeletor did have a sister called Skeletrix and a nephew and niece called Funnybone and Hunnybone. No Skeleteen, though.

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    I would prefer the name Skeletrix. Not his sister because that would be odd. I wouldn't mind seeing her as Dare's villain a copycat of some kind, give her a bit of a harlequinn style get up, and have her like fruit flavored cereal.

    That post started off serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagar View Post
    From what little I've seen on the inside, this isn't the case (no Skeleteen/Battle Blade Skeletor connection).

    However, in Filmation's pitch circa 1988/89 for He-Man and the Masters of Space, a show featuring the characters from the new He-Man line, Skeletor did have a sister called Skeletrix and a nephew and niece called Funnybone and Hunnybone. No Skeleteen, though.
    Ummm...is this true......?
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    I don't hate the concept at all, in fact I would rather get his figure than some vintage characters. I will say at first I didn't like the name but it is growing on me. I think the worst name in all of MOTU is Netossa, I can't say it without smiling. I remember when I first read it years ago in Toyfare, I thought they were making it up. So in a world of silly and weird names, Skeleteen has its place. As stated above if Scott did make up a new name it would've received criticism if not MORE than he already is. I am glad he stuck to the original name. He will still have to come up with Skeleteen's real name however, so that will be interesting to see what he does with it.

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    I don't mind the concept of Skeleteen so much but the name keeps reminding me of one of my favorite childhood drinks...





    I wouldn't mind a Skeleteen figure, though...As long as we also get Dare/He-Ro, Kay-La, and Queen Teela too. That would complete the SoHM faction for me. A Keltra custom is already in the works!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micro-Man View Post
    I don't mind the concept of Skeleteen so much but the name keeps reminding me of one of my favorite childhood drinks...

    http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6808/keltra22x.jpg



    I wouldn't mind a Skeleteen figure, though...As long as we also get Dare/He-Ro, Kay-La, and Queen Teela too. That would complete the SoHM faction for me. A Keltra custom is already in the works!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MISSILE-TOE View Post
    Ummm...is this true......?
    Absolutely true, no point in not telling the truth. I worked on some of the DVD special features for The New Adventures of He-Man. Remember the concept artwork gallery, including pictures of Darius, Starship Eternia and a dinosaur/lizard-like man? These weren't from Jetlag, they were Filmation artwork. The dinosaur character was called Steel Claw, one of a whole cast of non-toy characters. I think there may also have been a tentacled, bald-looking alien evoking the look of Sydney Greenstreet (or Sydney Greenfield, as I believe James Eatock called him on one of our commentary tracks) in a casino setting. Lar Takar of Club Royale, Nukanaan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagar View Post
    I worked on some of the DVD special features for The New Adventures of He-Man. Remember the concept artwork gallery, including pictures of Darius, Starship Eternia and a dinosaur/lizard-like man? These weren't from Jetlag, they were Filmation artwork. The dinosaur character was called Steel Claw, one of a whole cast of non-toy characters. I think there may also have been a tentacled, bald-looking alien evoking the look of Sydney Greenstreet (or Sydney Greenfield, as I believe James Eatock called him on one of our commentary tracks) in a casino setting. Lar Takar of Club Royale, Nukanaan.
    I must of missed those, I don't tend to look at the picture galleries on DVD's TBH, I'm going to check them out when I get home tonight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagar View Post
    From what little I've seen on the inside, this isn't the case (no Skeleteen/Battle Blade Skeletor connection).

    However, in Filmation's pitch circa 1988/89 for He-Man and the Masters of Space, a show featuring the characters from the new He-Man line, Skeletor did have a sister called Skeletrix and a nephew and niece called Funnybone and Hunnybone. No Skeleteen, though.
    Too funny. Skeletrix are for kids!
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