Cool information (I was initially expecting this to be an April Fool's Joke). I'm all for weird, unused concepts to make their way into MOTUC, so I think this is rather neat.
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"We have a Ram-Man"
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I'll lead you into danger
And all that troubles man
I'll lead you far from hunger
Just take my frozen hand
MISSILE-TOE - Hey man thanks for giving me credit for this Wish I'd known you and Kevann had already transcribed most of it, it would have saved my hours of squniting at my monitor
Here's my current version of it:
He-Ro and The New Masters
In addition to Darius and Madre?. He-Ro gathers about him a fighting force of all the leaders of the planet:
HYDRON – Hydron is a warrior from the underwater city of Serus. He is a masterful aquatic warrior who can swim underwater for hours. His people have developed a sophisticated marine technology. and Hydron brings this expertise to the Master's cause. He can also communicate with certain variates of marine life.
ICARIUS – Icarius is a ???? from the floating city of Levitan. He is a master of aerial combat and is more at home in the air than on land. With his jet powered wings he is a most capable ally.
VIZAR – Vizar comes from the underground city of Onnor. He is a skilled tunneller and can blast his way through most materials. He is a master spy and can blast in and out of any fortress.
Nocturna – This noble warrior is schooled in a different discipline - even as old as that of the Masters themselves. He can sneak into the middle of the enemy camp in the middle of the night unnoticed and disarm his opponent? without their knowledge.
In addition to these living allies, He-Ro still has the Zquelan? the vehicle Man-at-Arms built for him so long ago. This versatile? space craft carries him and his loyal followers through space to meet SkeleTeen on his own ground.
I really hope Scott will post this full bible one day, soon
I'm interested in seeing if this bible contains a sketch of the Madre? character. I suspect this character might have even eventually become Tatarus/Kayo as he is noticeably absent from this page. In case anybody is wondering, there is no way this is Mara (or became Mara) as Mara was created by Jack Olesker for the NA cartoon a few years later.
Interesting to note the cities of Serus, Levitan and Onnor all made it to the final version of NA,
The Starship Eternia also has a different name which I can't quite make out, I notice you guys think it could be Javelin.
I'd love to know if name Dare actually appears in this early Mattel bible or if Scott is actually pulling it from the later HR SOHM cartoon bible. I suspect it isn't in it and wouldn't be surprised to find out that the use of the name He-Ro in these two bibles is a total coincidence.
MOTUC NA Most Wanted: Darius, Kayo, Vizar, Hoove, Lizorr
Trade my Red Stone He-Ro Staff for a Green one
HE-MAN UK Adventure Magazine #26
Not a big fan of the name, but a character based on the image from the comic would be cool.
Concerning Skeleteen... years ago (2 or so years after NA ended), the topic of MOTU came up in a conversation and a friend of a friend joked that Skeletor actually had a green "Mohawk" hairdo. 'Tis strange...
ne jabba no badda!
One Gum Drop to rule them all, One Gum Drop to find them,
One Gum Drop to bring them all and in the sweetness bind them
In the Land of Candy where the Gingerbreads lie.
-Tag line for the Candy Land Movie Adaptation
There are sentences I should just stay a way from. - The Doctor
Rob Liefeld isn't a comic artist, he's a women's clothing designer. Think about it
"I will use this power for all the good that can be done, to work for peace, to encourage virtue, and above all, to preserve life in all its forms..." Superman
The name Skeletor sounds evil and imposes fear, even if you didn't know who he was.
Skeleteen is quite the opposite. I picture his enemies laughing when they hear his name. It truly is a sad predicament for the son of the Overlord of Evil.
I understand nostalgia and wanting to pay homage to characters "true" origins, however, Skeletor's son isn't some random character or concept. A character as important as the son of Skeletor, who brings the story forward and could be the future of MOTU, deserves better.
I'm on Scott's side with 99.9% of the way this line has been handled, but this is a big mistake.
"Oh Lord, Bless this M&M... and the mighty cockroach I slain in battle to get it." - Al Bundy
can it be used as a derogatory name instead of his REAL "Codename"? Cause it sounds to dorky to be used seriously.
"I am Skeleteen, Overlord of EVIL and Eternia WILL BE MINE!!" does not inspire fear like his father did.
Glimmer is coming!! YES!! YES!! YES!!!
"Now son, we've talked about this. You don't even have your Eternian learner's permit yet. You can only go if your mother drives you."
"Man...that's so bogus, dad! None of the other villains have to have their moms drive them to their raids. It's so unfair. I hate you!"
"Ha ha ha! That's my Skeleteen!"
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"It is not by reasoning or by our understanding that we have received our religion; it is by external authority and command."-Michel De Montaigne
Heretical Vintage Purist and Non-Fan Extraordinaire!
Any body out there have a picture of him from the comic yet or is that impossible to get. And is skeleteen going to be imbued with a part of demo-man as well.
I hope the name Skeleteen eventually gets changed. Here's how I can palate it:
- He gets teased by others because he's Skeletor's son "He's some kind of 'Skeleteen'"
So, that's how he gets his name, it's a nickname that sticks (I'm sure we all know those ones we hate, like that ). Anyway, over time as he steps out of his father's shadow, I would like to see him gain his own name. Something like...I don't know...Devestation! That could be good.
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Very good, but that name has got to be changed.
Wish List: Eldor, Skeleton Warriors, King Argho, Horde Wraiths, Kobolds, Prahvus, Lord Masque, Rock Monster, Gen. Tartaran, Evil Seed, Carnivorous Plant, Lizard-Man, Hawke, Crimson Fury, Melaktha, Spinwit, Ra-Jarr, Kelclar, King Miro, Dare, Missile-Toe, Sh'gora, Vizar, Harpy, ABC Giants, Lodar, Dragoon, Darius, Negator, Masks of Power Demons, Slob-Boar, Bubblor, Three-Beast, Nocturna
Since the name has not appeared in an official capacity, I really hope Mattel will be persuaded to change it before that time comes. It just doesn't fit. I don't believe it's a situation like Demo Man where the name was originally met with some push back and then more widely accepted down the road. I believe Skeleteen is a bad name now and will still be a bad name no matter how long it sticks around.
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Skeleteen is definately worse, though.
I want to be clear, I am not a fan of the name Skeleteen, but I very much appreciate that they are using it since it was originally the name he was going to be given. We don't know if it was a "placeholder" or not, as far as we know this is the only or one of only a few references to his name and speculating that it was a placehold does nothing because, as far as we know, no other name was ever recorded and no notes that we are aware of note Skeleteen as being a "placeholder" name. I'm also sure Skeleteen will not be his real name, so I will be interested to learn his real name.
TG, how can something be nostalgic when we've never heard of it?
No one has been desiring a Skeleteen toy for 20 years. Unlike He-Ro, Eldor, Star Sister, Mara or Darius, no one was clamoring for this guy, so there is no nostalgia that gives that lame Skeleteen name an automatic pass.