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    Do, you like the idea of Demo-Man

    Simple question.

    Do you like that Mattel Made up a new character named Demo-Man?
    This is not about the name....just the idea of the character itself.
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    Mortally wounded in battle with his half-brother Captain Randor™, Keldor™ turned to his dark-arts master Hordak™ to save his life. Merging Keldor™ with the extra-dimensional being Demo-Man™ from Despondos™, Keldor™ was forever changed into Skeletor®, Overlord of Evil™! He gathered together the greatest outcasts and evil warriors of Eternia® in his quest to gain entry into Castle Grayskull™ and obtain what he believes is the universe’s ultimate power source.
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    Beside the name (but I think - hope that demo stays for demon) I think that the idea can be great. The theory that Keldor was the blue brother of Randor never convinced me (as I already wrote in other threads). Mixing the human Keldor with another identity has more sense, it can explain why Skeletor is blue skinned, has three toes on each foot and has the appendages on the forearms...

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkluke74 View Post
    Beside the name (but I think - hope that demo stays for demon) I think that the idea can be great. The theory that Keldor was the blue brother of Randor never convinced me (as I already wrote in other threads). Mixing the human Keldor with another identity has more sense, it can explain why Skeletor is blue skinned, has three toes on each foot and has the appendages on the forearms...
    But Keldor still has blue skin because he's a half Gar

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    Actually, I don't care.

    I plan to throw out faker's bio because it sucked & have no problem doing the same with skelly's. I'm still left with my own imagination that way.
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    With two working background stories already, this one was unnecessary. But it does not really matter, I can always merge the part I find making most sense into the one coherent canon.
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    Nope. It's unnecessary.

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    It doesn't really matter, since they merely gave a name to what was seen in the myp ep where keldor was changed.
    in filmation, skeletor was a demon, in myp, he started out as keldor. They simply combined the two origins so now he's a demon as well as formerly being keldor. nothing has really been changed.
    I'm not sure why it comes as a shock to so many fans, since it's info we've known since the myp series. they simply named the 'force' Demo-man. i guess they had to call it something.

    skeletor is still the evil lord of destruction in my view. At least now it's official that keldor & Randor are related.
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    I think it's unnecessary but I can live with it. I really don't want to see it as part of any entertainment though. as I can see it being way too easy for writers to try to come up with an 'excorcism' storyline to save Keldor. I always liked the idea that Keldor was corrupted by seeking powerful dark magics and not to mention a rivalry with his brother. I liked the notion that Keldor and MArlena had a thing going but as he became darker and more twisted she drifted away blah blah blah. anyway it's not my cup of tea but I can live with it as it is on a card back. the name sucks though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Multibot View Post
    It doesn't really matter, since they merely gave a name to what was seen in the myp ep where keldor was changed.
    in filmation, skeletor was a demon, in myp, he started out as keldor. They simply combined the two origins so now he's a demon as well as formerly being keldor. nothing has really been changed.
    I'm not sure why it comes as a shock to so many fans, since it's info we've known since the myp series. they simply named the 'force' Demo-man. i guess they had to call it something.
    It was never stated he merged wiht something else in MYP cartoon. That was only Hordak spell.
    So, yes, it's shock because this new Skeletor is a completely different thing from his previous incarantions. He's a merge of two characters.
    While so far, he was only one, with his unique personality, beheavior, motivations, etc.
    If that isn't a big change, I don't know what else is

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    Yeah, as far as I'm concerned Mattel has fixed something that wasn't broke. They completely ruined Skeletor for Me.
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    Chris here...

    I hate the name but am intrigued by the concept - if someone is allowed to craft an awesome story around it (which I would think ultimately someone would be - it's obvious Mattel have a storyline they want to build around this toyline, am I the only one who can smell mini-comics?! ), I think it would be cool!

    Still, I agree with those who've said that De-Mon or something like that would have been a better name - however, I'm sure we shall find out more about "Demo-Man" since his name bears a TM by it on Matty's website!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emiliano View Post
    It was never stated he merged wiht something else in MYP cartoon. That was only Hordak spell.
    So, yes, it's shock because this new Skeletor is a completely different thing from his previous incarantions. He's a merge of two characters.
    While so far, he was only one, with his unique personality, beheavior, motivations, etc.
    If that isn't a big change, I don't know what else is
    whatever.... a bunch of words on the back of a toy package has everyone's panties in a bunch.... he still looks like the same skeletor, i knew as a kid, to me. New Skeletor?? not really, it's only 'new' if you consider the bio on the package to be 100% official canon. to me it's just something to read & nothing more. he's still a blue skin man with a skull face, sword, havok staff & such. i don't see him as this 'new thing' you speak of.

    before the myp series he was hordak's student & a demon from another dimension, not hordak's creation made with a magic spell. is anyone in an uproar over that? they should have been, if they're making a big stink over this demo-man crap.
    it's a shame the myp series ended so soon, as they might have stated Skeletor was 2 beings in one. Whatever happened, he certainly was a changed man; whether he was still in control of his own actions, or wether he was now a demon in keldor's body, it makes little difference. He was transformed into a new being, one that was obviously alot more powerful and magical. I don't think he'd become that powerful in that short of time without some other supernatural assistance. maybe there was more to that spell than what was revealed at the time...
    And why would hordak even care about keldor if he didn't have some ulterior motive. maybe he did posess him with a demon during the spell, as a way of being freed later, and to make skeletor more obedient to hordak when the time came. It's a shame the show ended before they could explore that.
    i wondered why Hordak didn't just restore keldor's face back to normal rather than turning him in to Skeletor, if all he used was magic. so the demon idea makes more sense to me now... he's still Skeletor, with his own personality & all, but 'skeletor' is the combination of 2 beings; not much different from 'Ermac' from Mortal Kombat.

    seriously, if the bio on the package is that big an issue, maybe people should just choose to ignore it, or see it for what it really is; nothing more than a fabrication of fantasy.
    How can there be such an uproar over one frikkin name? to me skeletor is the same character i grew up with. I'm simply getting a better looking figure than we had in the 80's. That's how i see it.

    i'm sorry if some fans think skeletor is 'ruined', but i think he's just become that much more interesting & complex. Before he was just a guy with his face burnt off, & made magical; now he might be a 'posessed' man with his face burnt off & magical. A demonic posessed guy is much scarier than your average lunatic villan imo.
    I guess that explains how he can see & hear with no eyes & ears, and speak even though he has no tongue.
    hmmmm...... actually, skeletor is like ghost rider, except he doesn't change back to human.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Multibot View Post
    whatever.... a bunch of words on the back of a toy package has everyone's panties in a bunch.... he still looks like the same skeletor, i knew as a kid, to me. New Skeletor?? not really, it's only 'new' if you consider the bio on the package to be 100% official canon. to me it's just something to read & nothing more. he's still a blue skin man with a skull face, sword, havok staff & such. i don't see him as this 'new thing' you speak of.

    before the myp series he was hordak's student & a demon from another dimension, not hordak's creation made with a magic spell. is anyone in an uproar over that? they should have been, if they're making a big stink over this demo-man crap.
    it's a shame the myp series ended so soon, as they might have stated Skeletor was 2 beings in one. Whatever happened, he certainly was a changed man; whether he was still in control of his own actions, or wether he was now a demon in keldor's body, it makes little difference. He was transformed into a new being, one that was obviously alot more powerful and magical. I don't think he'd become that powerful in that short of time without some other supernatural assistance. maybe there was more to that spell than what was revealed at the time...
    And why would hordak even care about keldor if he didn't have some ulterior motive. maybe he did posess him with a demon during the spell, as a way of being freed later, and to make skeletor more obedient to hordak when the time came. It's a shame the show ended before they could explore that.
    i wondered why Hordak didn't just restore keldor's face back to normal rather than turning him in to Skeletor, if all he used was magic. so the demon idea makes more sense to me now... he's still Skeletor, with his own personality & all, but 'skeletor' is the combination of 2 beings; not much different from 'Ermac' from Mortal Kombat.

    seriously, if the bio on the package is that big an issue, maybe people should just choose to ignore it, or see it for what it really is; nothing more than a fabrication of fantasy.
    How can there be such an uproar over one frikkin name? to me skeletor is the same character i grew up with. I'm simply getting a better looking figure than we had in the 80's. That's how i see it.

    i'm sorry if some fans think skeletor is 'ruined', but i think he's just become that much more interesting & complex. Before he was just a guy with his face burnt off, & made magical; now he might be a 'posessed' man with his face burnt off & magical. A demonic posessed guy is much scarier than your average lunatic villan imo.
    I guess that explains how he can see & hear with no eyes & ears, and speak even though he has no tongue.
    hmmmm...... actually, skeletor is like ghost rider, except he doesn't change back to human.
    I think more than anything the biggest fear is that they'll use this story for some future entertainmant and as I said in my earlier post do a poor job of storytelling because of it. I love getting mythology and info but I agree that sometimes a bit of mystery is welcome.
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    I think it's fine and don't really have a problem with it.
    In fact, Demo-Man sounds like something that would go up against- say- He-Ro- quite nicely!
    I like it partly because it IS rather classic MOTU-ish.
    Beast Man's "real name" drives me nuts because it's just over-syllabylic (is that a word?) and like something culled from LOTR.
    Demo-Man, whoever or whatever it/he is, sounds right at home in MOTUC because of already-existing character names like He-Man, He-Ro, She-Ra, Trap-Jaw, Tri-Klops, Evil-Lyn...

    Seriously, if Masters had NEVER had a character in it called Evil-Lyn, and suddenly Mattel sprang this "new" character called Evil-Lyn on us now adult collectors, everybody would be moaning and rolling their eyes "Evil-Lyn? COME ON! That's retarded!"
    So, to me, this Demo-Man thing works.

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    I don't mind the idea, I just don't like the name.
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    I voted "No" because I am working on the assumption that this is a totally new character concept and moreso that this change in the bio has brought the "Disondos" element into MOTUC (which I really don't like). Dispondos made Etheria irrelevent (IMO) 2K MOTU, and now that She-Ra and the POP girls are allowed to come to the party I hate the idea that Etheria will be replaced with Dispondos. But if this demon (possibly Scareglow in another name) was from Infinita I would like it more. I could deal with this character if it was just Scare Glow in another name, but I see no need for any new characters or messing with Skeletors origins. His back story works just fine as it is. I would like to learn more about his time as Keldor, his relationship with Miro, Randor and more importantly his mother and what happened to her: along with what happened to Miro's second wife, Randors mother? I have always thought this is a storyline that should have been expanded and decided to write a semi fan fic about it a year ago.

    In my story Keldors Mother "Kellara" was a blue skinned gar woman and married Miro in an aranged marriage to ease political tensions between the gar and white skinned races of Eternia (who were close to war). But Kellara was a follower of the old religon that worshiped Shekotti which was in direct oppisioion to the main religion of Eternia that worshiped the Goddess and forbayed the worship of Shekotti. It was the duty of the Sorceress of Grayskulll to ensure that Shekotti's worshipers were watched and that support never grew too strong. But this mearly forced the faith underground. Kellara was killed by Miro when he and Kodac Ungle (allerted by the spirit of grayskull that someone was trying to reach Shekotti) found her and a number of Shekotti's followers trying to raise her sole from the dead: in her last survivng temple. The aim was that Shekotti would inhabit Kellara's body by paying the fates with the blood of a child of great importance, her son the young prince Keldor. In her mind Kellara was going to make Keldor a great myrter to the Gar cause, and gain the power from Shekotti to win back Eternia for her people. But she failed and a five year old Keldor wittnessed Miro stab his mother through the heart upon the command of Kodac Ungle. Shekotti had begun to inhabit Kellara's body and the vestles immedieate death was the only way to stop the transference: before the demon goddess gained access to Eternia's plane of reality.

    The young Keldor was never able to forgive Miro for what he saw him do to his mother. When his father re- married a member of his own race a few years later and a second prince was born, Keldors hatred grew even more for his father along with the new queen and his half brother: sending him on his warped quest for dark power. He poisoned Randor's mother when he realised Miro was going to name his brother as prince regent. Years later he eventually tried to take the life of his father, but a young Randor intervened protecting his unarmed father. Keldor was banashed from the kindgom of Eternos and cast out into the wilds. When he was close to death after being attacked by a mob who escorted him from the kingdom, a cloched figure appeared and saved him. The rest you can kinda guess.

    I just always needed to have an event that turned Keldor's heart from the light, and was the start of his journey into darkness. (IMO) going into Keldor's backstory would be much a more intresting prospect than this whole demo-man stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krosfyah View Post
    I think more than anything the biggest fear is that they'll use this story for some future entertainmant and as I said in my earlier post do a poor job of storytelling because of it. I love getting mythology and info but I agree that sometimes a bit of mystery is welcome.
    I do agree that some bit of mystery is a good thing. it's worked for Orko (the most mysterious motu character imo), and for snake-Eyes from GI Joe. but there comes a time when the story must move forward & questions must be answered.
    MOTU has been around since before 1982, so I think the mystery has kind of worn out it's welcome. I'd like to see a complete origin bio for every character, it's been more than long enough. I'm just glad we're finally getting 'real names' for the characters. I can't imagine Beast man's parents naming him 'Beast man' when he was born....

    Angel-T: Was Infinita or Despondos even called by name in either series? I can't recall.... I do know the 'other dimention' in the filmation series was never named on the show, can't remember if the myp series named it or not. I do agree they dropped the ball by not having any mention of Etheria or Adam's sister (or even 2 power swords) in the myp series. That's why I favor the original in some parts, yet at the same time the myp show did fill alot of gaps left open by the original series.
    Who knows, maybe there will still be an Etheria, maybe despondos is part of Etheria. you know, like the name of a country? Or maybe when Hordak takes over Etheria it becomes a very dark horrible place & he renames it Despondos, because it sounds more evil than Etheria. Maybe when She-ra & co. free the world it will once again return to being Etheria.
    Just like 'Edenia' in Mortal Kombat, that became 'Outworld' when Shao Kahn took over.... I wouldn't have any problem with Etheria being renamed 'Despondos' as long as it returned to its original name once the Horde was defeated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krosfyah View Post
    I think it's unnecessary but I can live with it. I really don't want to see it as part of any entertainment though. as I can see it being way too easy for writers to try to come up with an 'excorcism' storyline to save Keldor. I always liked the idea that Keldor was corrupted by seeking powerful dark magics and not to mention a rivalry with his brother. I liked the notion that Keldor and MArlena had a thing going but as he became darker and more twisted she drifted away blah blah blah. anyway it's not my cup of tea but I can live with it as it is on a card back. the name sucks though
    Maybe they could do that, and find out that it's not the demon making Keldor evil, but the other way round!
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    THe idea itself is cool. I am not sold on the name, however. I will reserve judgement until later, perhaps when more information is revealed. Maybe Demo(n)-Man is a villain who went up against the likes of KG or He-Ro and Eldor?
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    i dont like it,
    seems like they are trying to turnskelly into anikin/vader. giveing excuses as to why he is evil.
    i prefer the original story(skelly is demon from another dimension)
    i lived with the whole keldor /randors brother thing and melting face.
    i just dont wanna see any lets save skeletor from his demon crap pop up in future cartoons (if they make any)
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    I don't like it - the name is a complete write-off, and to be honest who actually needs it? Skelly was a solid enough character without this. Those areas of doubt or mystery actually added to the sense of evil...and that's what the main bad guy needs.

    Anyhoo, I think it will be easy enough to ignore if you want to - just don't read the back of the packet. ToyGuru's recent comment on continuity may have been a failsafe pre-empt to stop anyone getting too steamed about just this subject.

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    I don't like the idea, that Keldor had to be merged with something to become Skeletor. I liked the MYP story best. Keldor is Randors blue skinned brother and after his little accident and a little magic help from Hordak he became even stronger. Skeletor is unique! He doesn't need to be merged with something to be the ultimate "Evil Lord of Destruction or Overlord of Evil"!

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    The idea is OK, but the name is just dreadfull. He should not be a living being or man, but a spirit/demon. If he once was alive, it should be explaine dthat it as during the time of He-Ro and Grayskull, and that now he is simply a living spirit who possessed Keldor through Hordak's magic.

    He needs a way cooler name too. Drop "Man" from the title, because that implies he is still alive.

    Some cooler name ideas, off the top of my head are:

    V'Tala (from Vetala: vampire-like demon spirit from Hindu mythology, who brought corpses back to life)
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    Dai-mon (or Daimon)
    Dai-man
    Dae-mon (or Daemon)
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    It could be that Demo-Man was the only name Mattel could copywrite.

    Personally, I think he should be called Tim.

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    Sure, why not? I love new ideas for MOTUC. And that's what this poll is about right? a new Idea. I think the results of this poll are biased based on the fact that people aren't liking the name Demo-Man. I guarantee if there was another name used, the poll's results would be different.

    I honestly don't know why people are getting so upset about it. I mean the main character is called He-Man, and the character getting the most excitement is called He-Ro! The name Demo-Man fits right in with those examples. MOst of the MOTU characters have silly names(Ram man, Evil-Lyn, Extendar, Fisto, Clawful.....Snout Spout???). For one, they were targeted toward kids, and they were also introduced in the 80's.

    Demo-man isn't that terrible. I can think of worse: Good-Kate, Erector, Swim-Or, It-Man (a ******), Peg-Leg, etc,,,,lol
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