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    Iron Man 3 Talkback - SPOILERS

    So IM3 opened in international markets today (not North America) so you foreign orgers, give us your take.

    Warning to all there WILL be spoilers.

    I read a HUGE spoiler that I won't post (because I haven't seen the movie) that I don't like the sound of but it COULD play out in a good way, so I will see the flick to judge, but it's a HUGE disappointment to me at this stage. reading it has dampened my enthusiasm to see the movie in a big way, but again I will go see it opening week most likely.
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    I'll share my thoughts tonight once I come back from the theater
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    Awesome! let me know how you feel about that big spoiler! lol
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    I added 'spoilers' to the title of this thread, but as the movie does not open in the U.S. until next week, please be kind and use spoiler tags for any relevant information at least until after the movie opens domestically 5/3. That way, people who want to hear fans' feedback about the movie without reading spoilers won't have the movie...well, spoiled!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thatman View Post
    I added 'spoilers' to the title of this thread, but as the movie does not open in the U.S. until next week, please be kind and use spoiler tags for any relevant information at least until after the movie opens domestically 5/3. That way, people who want to hear fans' feedback about the movie without reading spoilers won't have the movie...well, spoiled!


    ok, thanks. I just figured it's out but yeah people will come in to the thread for reactions not wanting to be spoiled.
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    I've just comme from the cinema... Movie is great! However, it is not Avengers great...

    This is the most script complex Iron Man movie to date, almost like Nolan's Batman; but it has much more humor due to RDJ's Tony Stark eccentricities. Plot is tricky, has some twists and there are moments in which it is required to pay attention to fully comprehend it.
    It is clear Shane Blacks hand on having good cop, rebel good cop with RDJ & Don Cheadle having very clever dialogues through the whole movie.
    I personally think that RDJ may have work close with Black in developing the story, since it seems to be Tony's story dealing with a more seemingly down to earth threat and human relationships issues.

    Now, some reviews that may result quite spoilerish...

     

    Extremis story line has been modified and excellently adapted to fit Mandarin & AIM's plot, whose relation with terrorism is extremely surprising & terrifying. Sadly, even more so with Boston incident
    There are some psychic scars from "Avengers" that Tony has to deal with and end up in the multi armors set up
    There's very few IM armor action scenes, it is a more Tony driven and having to deal with no technology story, and even with the armor seems to be in quite disadvantage.
    Last scene with the dozen armors is good, but I persoanlly wished they had a more detailed screen time, they just work as eye candy and for Hot Toys to have figures to built for the next decade
    Guy Pierce makes an excellent villain and equals Tony in smart moves. His defeat is quite lame though
    Peppers's role left me scratching my head by the end of the movie
    There's a sense of closure of the series on the whole movie from scene 1, and I do not know if or how RDJ may return in Avengers 2 or a possible IM4. I think that money may change that for sure
    After credit scene it is a cameo, related to the narration from the start, but does not hint any future movie, not even Thor.
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    Rhanen sums it up perfectly!! Very well said pal.
    I had the chance to see an advance screening of IM3 here in Australia Tuesday night. Rhanen's review talks about all the things I was disappointed in, yet also praises the movie in all the right aspects as well.
    I thought Iron Patriot was very cool and I liked the in-movie jokes comparing him against War Machine.
    For me the I didn't feel satisfied at the end of the movie. Maybe I had placed my expectations too high?
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    Went to see it yesterday and enjoyed it but didn't think it was anything special.
     
    I was disappointed The Mandarin is revealed to be an actor and not the true villain and the post credit scene didn't tease anything like the past ones have.
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    I really enjoyed it. the who mandarin angle I thought was awesome. btw I didn't get the relation of those tattoos' cheers for that. the armours where great I know you don't get to see half of them up close but very well done. the teaser as the end is for the next avengers movie. aka phase 2 apparently in rumors this was the last IM for Robert Downey JNR apart from avengers 2 which he is slated to return for. then again there was another franchise that the lead actor said he would do no more and that was called pirates of the Caribbean it was meant to end with at worlds end. but theres 2 more of those on the way.

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    Worst Marvel Studios movie ever, if this is Phase 2, then the future looks like DC's
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Joezilla View Post
    Worst Marvel Studios movie ever, if this is Phase 2, then the future looks like DC's
    $175m opening weekend and $680 WW gross in the first week would beg to differ.

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    I don't see why people are raving over it. I mean it was a fun movie but it felt like transformers 1 fun but dumb. It did not feel like the 'smart' movie everyone is saying it is. I don't see it. I liked avengers as well but I also felt it wasn't the masterpiece that people said, it was a LOT of fun but kind of flawed. This movie to me was pretty fun but very flawed. Better than the second as it was more enjoyable, but the second movie was more credible as a story IMO.

    to each their own but this movie was like cotton candy, tasty for a bit but no nutritional value and before it was done I was tired of carrying it around and i didn't want to eat anymore.


    I know it's a movie trope but come on, that guy was out to KILL tony in tennessee then when he gets his chance he captures him?? one line of dialogue makes that credible, JUST WRITE IT!!! AUGH! that always annoys me, and really war machine is escorting the president with ZERO background checking to see if it's REALLY Rhodes in there? after all the threats the president gets, there is NO security check?? AUGH!!!! sorry these points stick out hard esp when people laud the movie for being SOOO SMART!! again fun but DUMB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krosfyah View Post
    that always annoys me, and really war machine is escorting the president with ZERO background checking to see if it's REALLY Rhodes in there? after all the threats the president gets, there is NO security check?? AUGH!!!! sorry these points stick out hard esp when people laud the movie for being SOOO SMART!! again fun but DUMB.
    Really Garry?!?! Are YOU going to stop the Iron Patriot or any Iron Man suit? Please explain to me how the US Government who basically lucked into getting this piece of hardware by stealing it from Tony is supposed to say "lets check your credentials". There was absolutely no reason to think the suit had been compromised and as far as anyone knows only Tony and Rhodes had that suit or could make another (see Iron Man 2 for all the failed attempts worldwide and Iron Man 1 for proof even those who had access to Tony's tech could not make a replica).

    Not saying your other points are invalid but I would really like you to explain this one
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    Quote Originally Posted by markatisu View Post
    Really Garry?!?! Are YOU going to stop the Iron Patriot or any Iron Man suit? Please explain to me how the US Government who basically lucked into getting this piece of hardware by stealing it from Tony is supposed to say "lets check your credentials". There was absolutely no reason to think the suit had been compromised and as far as anyone knows only Tony and Rhodes had that suit or could make another (see Iron Man 2 for all the failed attempts worldwide and Iron Man 1 for proof even those who had access to Tony's tech could not make a replica).

    Not saying your other points are invalid but I would really like you to explain this one
    well you're right even if they knew they couldn't stop him, but I'd expect it to be protocol that he comes faceplate up or unmasked or something, I get why SHIELD etc wasn't in it to develop/explore Tony, but with them established in this universe, their absence felt odd even a SHIELD agent on AF1 would have been nice. it just FELT sloppy. Just write a few lines of dialogue, Captain America (who SHOULD be escorting the pres) is on a mission, blahblah is offworld, essentially one line of dialogue that sets up the future movies and allows the absence in this story.

    I get your point that they might not think anyone else could be in the armour, but I don't know it just felt strange. Yeah they lucked out getting the armour but Rhodes is a military man and he'd follow protocol esp at a heightened terror situation, wouldn't protocol say it doesn't matter WHO they are they have clearance points to pass?? (I am willing to let this one go if someone gives me a good argument for it) I would have preferred if they had a in air liaison with Iron Patriot where he was escorting the plane instead of being on board then he rips in and attacks in mid flight.

    And again I REALLY did have fun watching the movie but there are points that stuck sore. I can overlook them but Don't rave about it being SMART (not that you are Mark I'm looking at some reviews I read comparing Kingsley's Mandarin to Ledgers Joker did they even SEE this movie??) when there were several "Really!?!?" moments. The stinger at the end of the credits was my favourite scene. I really liked that.

    Again FANTASTIC performances, lots of fun and laughs, but it was flawed. (most movies are but some are less obviously flawed than others) and I hated Hangover 2 just to illustrate my perspective a bit.


    Oh regarding the kid stuff, I enjoyed it but if you hate kids in movies this one won't change your mind. Tony makes it more palatable but it contains all the same 'spunky kid' stuff you guys cringe at. (I'm not a hater of those things but I do prepare to groan at the standard "kid in movie" things, mainly because the tend to stick to a predictable formula for those.
    Oh i LOVED Tony's anxiety issues and the reasons cor them etc...stuff like that was smart...but it wasnt an overall brilliant film. It had smart elements and hilarious elements. Just maki g sure my rants dont paint me as someone who hated the movie. I just believe you can wait for it and where i thought it fell flat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Joezilla View Post
    Worst Marvel Studios movie ever, if this is Phase 2, then the future looks like DC's
    How did it suck?

    Sure, it isn't as good as IM1, Thor, or Avengers, but it was better than IM2, Incredible Hulk and on par with Captain America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markatisu:3253287
    Quote Originally Posted by Master Joezilla View Post
    Worst Marvel Studios movie ever, if this is Phase 2, then the future looks like DC's
    $175m opening weekend and $680 WW gross in the first week would beg to differ.

    If you hate Iron Man 3 then prepare to despise the remainder of the Marvel Universe
    Iron Man 3 sucked, I still have faith in thor 2 & captain america 2 & avengers 2 since the director knows how to do a good movie unlike iron man 2 & 3 which were let downs, iron man 1 still best movie in his series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Kain:3253338
    Quote Originally Posted by Master Joezilla View Post
    Worst Marvel Studios movie ever, if this is Phase 2, then the future looks like DC's
    How did it suck?

    Sure, it isn't as good as IM1, Thor, or Avengers, but it was better than IM2, Incredible Hulk and on par with Captain America.
    Manderin is only an actor not a villian just a stupid face, heck joker in batman might was well been a school janitor then his arch nemisis, the stupid campy humor, stupid kid, extremis soldiers being knock off human torches, the lack of iron man period, should called this movie tony stark, featuring 30 minutes of total screen time of iron man in full suit not him carrying a broken prototype that fell apart when he called for it several times for stupid comedy, not enough use of all his suits only mentioning some by name then blowing them all up at the end, Pepper Potts being the female human torch. Thats just part of this crap fest. All full on offical Marvel Studios movies been great just not iron man 2 & 3, iron man 2 is just bearly watchable. This movie was just as good as DC's Catwoman movie.
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    Here's how it ranks for me:

    Marvel Studios movies

    1. The Avengers
    2. Iron Man
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    5. Iron Man 2
    6. IRON MAN 3
    7. The Incredible Hulk

    I know that seems low but I really did enjoy it. I guess it has less "replay value" as in I don't feel like watching it over and over. But I did like it. Much, much more than "The Dark Knight Rises" and "Green Lantern". I'm hoping Man Of Steel will break into my favorite superhero movie list. Because right now, it's all Marvel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Joezilla View Post
    Manderin is only an actor not a villian just a stupid face,
    Yes, I am mad at that, but not because of how they did it, just because it made the rest of the movie fizzle out for me. And this is the movie world, NOT the comics. I gave up on comic accuracy years ago when the first X-Men came out.

    the stupid campy humor, stupid kid,
    I thought people wanted camp? Is that not why people want those Adam West Batman toys and crap?

    should called this movie tony stark, featuring 30 minutes of total screen time of iron man in full suit
    Sorry, this is a dumb statement. That's like saying you want nothing but 2 hours of action without a plot. Without character development. Well I got three movies just for you. They are called Revenge of the Fallen, Dark of the Moon, and GI Joe Retaliation.

    not him carrying a broken prototype that fell apart when he called for it several times for stupid comedy, not enough use of all his suits only mentioning some by name then blowing them all up at the end,
    While I will agree the amount of times they suit broke was annoying, at least it worked and was funny.

    Pepper Potts being the female human torch. Thats just part of this crap fest. All full on offical Marvel Studios movies been great just not iron man 2 & 3, iron man 2 is just bearly watchable. This movie was just as good as DC's Catwoman movie.
    I'd rather Pepper being a human torch than another worthless damsel in distress like she was in the trilogy. I am so sick of these female characters in comic movies having Peach/Zelda Syndrome.

    And this movie is not even close to being as bad as Catwoman. Catwoman is right there with Elektra, Jonah Hex, and Batman & Robin. This movie is still far far far above those.
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    Call me crazy... I thought it was the best one of the Iron man trilogy as far as entertainment goes. I.M.1 was the best comic book movie of the triliogy. Clever little twist and great use of under used characters, the studio's are not gonna let the property die it made WAY more money than I expected, understandably so. Good movie!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Kain View Post
    While I will agree the amount of times they suit broke was annoying, at least it worked and was funny.
    You guys realize that the suit that kept breaking was simply a prototype that did not even have weapons or a very good ability to fly (due to power issues) right?? Its one thing if it was the suits he had fabricated and tested like in IM1 and 2 but this was about on the level of completion as the original suit he created in the cave that burst apart after he attempted flight and landed in the desert.

    It was meant to break apart so he could call the pieces to him, so it stands to reason it would be easier to break apart if impacted.

    Its like some of watched a completely different movie with some of these complaints
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Kain View Post
    Sorry, this is a dumb statement. That's like saying you want nothing but 2 hours of action without a plot. Without character development. Well I got three movies just for you. They are called Revenge of the Fallen, Dark of the Moon, and GI Joe Retaliation.
    I don't think he's saying that he wanted a no-brainer action flick, just more Iron Man screentime with Tony in the armor flying around and blasting things. You know, doing Iron Man type stuff. I wanted more Iron Man time too, not different suits of armor falling off him every few seconds. That's my second, middling problem with this flick.

    The first is the Mandarin. While his reveal is better received on these forums, it's the talk of the comic movie boards on comic book sites. I'd rather that the Mandarin was an actual terrorist who favored Chinese iconography like the trailers suggest. No, he doesn't have to be outright comic book Mandarin with the alien rings of power, but making him a terrorist could have linked him with the group who first captured Stark. He could have been their shadowy leader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    The first is the Mandarin. While his reveal is better received on these forums, it's the talk of the comic movie boards on comic book sites. I'd rather that the Mandarin was an actual terrorist who favored Chinese iconography like the trailers suggest. No, he doesn't have to be outright comic book Mandarin with the alien rings of power, but making him a terrorist could have linked him with the group who first captured Stark. He could have been their shadowy leader.
    Oh, I agree. I wanted my Mandarin to be a terrorist like the movie started him out as. They did such a good job building him up, that revealing him to just be an actor completely made the movie fizzle out for me and I got bored. From that point on, everything else was utterly predictable. HOWEVER, that does not mean the twist was not clever and made you think about what the heck just happened.

    It was both a positive and a negative all in one. And as such, it really makes it hard for me to explain my disdain for the movie properly. Overall, I give it a 7/10, but that score could also be generous because it is the first movie to come out this year that hasn't down right sucked. I pray to the gods that Great Gasby and Star Trek are amazing, because if they aren't, there is nothing coming out this year that is going to be good until The Hobbit 2.
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    Saw it tonight - had a great time! Lots of comedy right up my alley, and I loved seeing Stark figure things out while his armor was messed up. His interaction with the kid was GOLDEN, as well. Not only was the kid actually a good actor (avoiding the "annoying child actor" thing) but the whole dynamic was hilarious and worked so well.

    As for the Mandarin thing: totally took me by surprise, and I liked it. Kinda sucks there won't be a regular Mandarin in the universe, but...eh. He's not the most amazing villain to me. You've got the comics for that stuff - I like the movie universe they've created. Plus...heck, the main villain here STILL could have survived if they wana pull some plot strings.

    Finally: I hope we see more of AIM! I assume someone else in the company can take over. Maybe make a little MODOK, who knows?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexx View Post
    As for the Mandarin thing: totally took me by surprise, and I liked it. Kinda sucks there won't be a regular Mandarin in the universe, but...eh. He's not the most amazing villain to me. You've got the comics for that stuff - I like the movie universe they've created. Plus...heck, the main villain here STILL could have survived if they wana pull some plot strings.

    Finally: I hope we see more of AIM! I assume someone else in the company can take over. Maybe make a little MODOK, who knows?
    Exactly, I mean we still have Fin Fang Foom which could easily do something story wise to turn the "Mandarin" actor into the actual Mandarin
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