Thanks for the interview. We all expected it, anyway, but it’s good to hear that it’s more a MOTU comic than a DCU one.
Thanks for the interview. I wonder if the DC version of He-Man follows Filmation/Classics continuity of Adam being half-Earthling, or the 2000x continuity and have his mother from Eternia as well?
Found this summary online. It seems like it's following the events of the mini-series directly.After narrowly escaping his last battle with He-Man, Skeletor has fled to the most unexpected realm to recover: EARTH! Once there, he sets a plan in motion to siphon off Earth's core magic. Forging an unlikely hunting party, He-Man and company go in search of Skeletor. Finding themselves at odds with the heroes of the DC Universe, He-Man and the Masters of the Universe must find a way to stop Skeletor and his mysterious new master! This debut issue features two covers by Ed Benes, both available for ordering: one featuring the heroes of the DC Universe, and the other featuring The Masters of the Universe!
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CBR's interview says MOTU is a hit. With DC's track record, things that aren't hit's quickly get canceled or aren't expanded upon.
Newsarama also has an interview.
Team MOTU is He-Man, Teela, Battle Cat, Man-At-Arms, Stratos, Moss Man, and Roboto.
Team DC is Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman.
But I also want to play a little with Justice League Dark and a few other characters.
It'll be the primary characters. It's not going to be, like, oh, let's stuff the Creeper in here. There's just no space for it.Heh...so the Masters associate bats with Hordak? I guess that's a good track record considering who fans think Batros is Horde...Nrama: So what's it going to be like for these characters to meet one another?
Giffen: It seems to be the unofficial rule of crossovers of this kind that they meet, misunderstand, fight, talk, and team-up. But I tried to play it a little bit less than cliché.
That means He-Man and company show up on earth, and there's culture shock. They're not used to it. So misunderstandings will abound. I'm still playing around with it at this point, trying to feel my way around the characters' reactions.
But I don't want to jump right into them fighting. If there's going to be a misunderstanding, it's going to make sense. Like Teela doesn't want to hang out with Batman, because she thinks he kills kids, plus they associate his batsuit with Hordak, who's a villain.
So there will be those kind of misunderstandings. It's not going to be, "Well, we don't know who you are, so all of the sudden we're the WWE and we're beating the crap out of one another."
There will be some manipulation on the villain's part.
But for the most part, it is a team-up without a battle royale between the characters.
Yeah...that fits in with what he's stated about how the crossover is non-canon for DC.Nrama: So it's the He-Man characters as you've been writing them in the MotU comic.
Giffen: Yes. Absolutely. And I see this more as a He-Man book that guest stars the DC Universe. It's an Eternia story that spills over into the DC Universe.
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The cbr interview made me totally angry towards Giffen and DC and Mattel... I so dislike what they are doing!
Mattel shaking their own universe? Okay. But they shook it way too much.
While I'm keeping in mind that a big part of my job is giving the fans what they want, I also hope that the fans are aware that another big part of my job is to give them what they don't know that they want.No, you don't have to give me what i don't want, the consequence in that is, that i don't buy any of it and wish that they never would have made any of the new comics.They want new stories and they want things to happen that have consequence
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He turned the Justice league into a goofy group of lovable losers... and it made him VERY popular... But on paper it was a TERRIBLE idea.
He kind of has made a career out of 'giving fans what they didn't know they wanted'...
I feel much the same way - though I haven't yet cancelled my sub (a kind of horrified fascination prevents me - like not being able to look away from something grisly...) But I understand that a great many fans are doing so - and the chief reason does seem to be strong dissatisfaction with the way the comics are written and the frantic pace of change - which smacks of desperation - on display.
And I'm afraid that Giffen does come across in the interviews as more than a little arrogant and unlikeable; no wonder he warps well-known characters to make them unlikeable too.
If it loses established fans and doesn't draw in a new base to replace them, then it will fail. A pity - but if Mattel have entrusted MotU to DC then who is to blame - ultimately? My hope is that this is some kind of experiment, and that they will change direction yet again - hopefully back to something less outlandish and with a wider basis of appeal - once this foray has been seen not to be a success. One can but hope so.
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So it looks as if the irreversible shark-jump downturn in quality is upon us. Ho hum. Not good news for MotU.
And it could so easily have been avoided with a better choice of writer than Giffen.
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Certainly the Robinson/Giffen changeover and the sudden and unscheduled switch to the crossover (which is sure to sell better by broadening appeal - though only by subjugating MotU to the DCU...) don't suggest a confident long-term MotU strategy at DC.
But, in the end, the finances will determine the future; they always do.
To be frank, I don't care about the story. The fact that the crossover has the DC characters in their New52 costumes and He-Man in his "ancient armor" pretty much destroys any interest for me. It's like that Punisher vs' Batman comic from the 90s, where Punisher meets Az-Bat - didn't care a bit about it, cause I prefer crossovers to have the characters in their iconic looks.
"Why's Dragstor riding on Night Stalker?" "Cause he can."
It's all a bit - well - tacky - anyway. I mean, what the heck have He-Man and Batman actually got to do with one another? All very silly.
This is just an attempt to bolster flagging sales of third-rate MotU comics. It will work; it will boost sales. But for how long - and at what long-term cost to the reputation of the brand?
I have no problem with this and am glad its happening, it will be great to see some of my favourite characters from different properties join forces.
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A few points:
Crossovers do not "smack of desperation". Fans asks for this sort of thing all the time. I bet people were really excited when the first Superman/Spider-Man came out years ago. They don't have all that much in common other than their choice of colors, but it was still a fun story.
I do agree that I would enjoy this more if everyone had their iconic looks.
Giffen has said this is a MOTU story with DC characters in it, so there's no reason to think MOTU is going to be subjugated by the DCU. I doubt Skeletor's mysterious boss is going to turn out to be Brainiac.
It's not a sudden switch to the crossover if the main book (presumably) comes out at the same time. And who says it's unscheduled?
I suppose that they could have chosen not to confide the plan to the writer - but it does seem a trifle odd, wouldn't you say?
But the comic world may well be very different from that of books.
I just re-read the interview - and Giffen does seem to have been taken unawares, despite the fact that he was DC's 'in-house' MotU writer, and almost two series of issues in.
But I don't suppose we'll ever know for sure; or need to.
And I still think Giffen is pretty dam' poor as a writer of MotU ! Val Staples simply slaughters him on every plane in my view.
I have heard that DC has some communication issues with it's creative talent. So I think it might be more indicative of that than anything. But comics, as I understand it, can be a much faster paced business than books for sure.
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My biggest issue is that I don't recognize N52 AS superman, so it doesn't mean much to me.
Story arcs for the last two had them lose the right to be called Justice League and started their own team called the 'Super buddies'... The first arc of JLI had Guy Gardner bump his head after seeing a mouse and act.... silly the rest fo the time.
Admittedly I've never heard of him being this 'violent'... but the immaturity is nothing but what I would have expected.
Giffen has niche, and there are people who LOVE that niche.
I am not ONE of them... but they do exist.
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As opposed to to the masters and good dc fighting each other it would be cool if the good dc fought skeletor and his minions and he-man took on lex and his minions so to speak. I dont care much for he-man taking on superman but im still looking forward to it nonetheless.
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issue 3 From October was revealed but how about the issue 2 from September ? don't remember seeing anything.