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    comment about clear vs yellow bubbles

    Ok,,

    I've been meaning to talk about this and well i finally have found some time to post this

    I'm a big AFA/MOC collector of Motuc and Vintage

    my comment is i know a lot of folks look for clear bubbles for their collection.. and to be honest it's also my first choice, but it the grand scheme of things, all of those clear bubbles will turn yellow.. this is age of the item and oxygen getting to the plastic. So with that being said, us collectors that pay big bucks for clear bubble vintage Motu.. is it worth it????

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    no not really... I am also a big time AFA graded collector and as long as the overall grade is an AFA 85 i am not really fussed if the cardback has a clear or yellow bubble
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    Pshah. If they're all going to yellow at some point, then explain to me why I just overpaid for a clear bubble Jitsu!

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    exactly..... so when you really shell out the duckets for a clear bubble.. just note.. it won't last or stay that way for long



    Quote Originally Posted by Snoutful View Post
    Pshah. If they're all going to yellow at some point, then explain to me why I just overpaid for a clear bubble Jitsu!

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    I always have a loose figure to go along with my MOC's, and the bubble can be whatever colour, i dont mind.
    In 99% of the time i display the loose figure and put the MOC in a box and store it. I dont even know what draws me to buy the MOC's apart from opening them sometimes to get a clean figure for display.

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    AGE, in all seriousness, this is an excellent topic for discussion and very happy you brought it up.

    I think we are of the same mind that clear is first choice, but I personally do not purchase a seriously yellow bubble just to get a figure MOC. I do have a few mildly yellow ones in my collection, and they look just fine amidst the others.

    Let me back up to explain what I mean by mildly yellow. In my experience, there are multiple "degrees" or intensity of bubble-yellowing. Some rate it as mild-moderate-severe. I've seen others get really descriptive when describing the oft-encountered murkiness or cloudiness assocated with the yellow that impairs view to the figure, versus a clearer yellowing like the plastic was stained that way. There are even some bubbles that are not yellow per se but have had their transparency darkened over time.
    Regardless, I would expect most collectors would concur with this widely-varying degree of yellowing in MOCs that are all about the same age (roughly 30 years old).

    So, I think you're right that the destiny of every MOC will be a yellow bubble. But a lot of the more serious degrees of yellowing - and this is just my opinion, reasonable minds may differ - are a consequence of improper storage area (hot attics or damp basements for 20+ years), an environment of tobacco smoke, or being in direct extended exposure to sunlight. Again, just an opinion on that point, a segue to...

    Two questions I'll add to your topic here that may further pique the discussion:

    1. For bubbles that have made it +/- 30 years still clear, is yellowing somewhat preventable, or the extent of it singificantly reducible, by UV-resistant encasing?
    2. Is yellowing reversible by a method that is safe and will not cause harm to the cardback, mini-comic, figure, or bubble itself?

    To the first question, I'll add that every time I have AFA'd a piece I select the UV-encasing option with this being my thought process. It's then in a fairly oxygen-minimized environment (they can't like vacuum it of ALL air, of course...though they do vacuum my Paypal account of funds). I do think you're right that yellowing STILL occurs even with AFA-graded pieces over time, which I have seen on several occasions through auctions, but I think that doing this might help to minimize the extent of the yellowing.
    Thoughts from yourself and others on my hypothesis?

    To the second point, I know of the "RetroBrite" process and some YouTube videos displaying how it works. But, honestly, I'm skiddish to try this. First, I'm not much of a chemist. Second, it takes multiple sessions of applying the chemicals and light to achieve any sort of results. Third, I'm concerned about potential long-term effects that have not yet come to light (no pun intended) with, what I understand to be, a fairly recently recognized process in its application to action figure MOC bubbles.
    Has anyone in the forum tried this or similar methods to reverse yellowing?

    Thanks again for kicking this topic around, AGE.
    Last edited by Snoutful; May 24, 2013 at 09:29pm.

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    Seems some BTAS has yellowed too (not the actual bubble but the inside "trays")

    As Ivan Drago would say : "if it yellows , it yellows"
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