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    MOTU counterparts in history, myth and folklore

    I just stumbled upon this eerily Yoda-like creature, painted in a book from the 14th century:
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    It made me wonder: could our beloved Masters of the Universe also have this kind of lookalikes? Can you name some characters, places, items and concepts found in real-life, history, myth or folklore (but not in modern fiction) that evoke or resemble those from MOTU?
    I already thought of several ones. The Green Man from the celtic folklore (and church sculptures in the UK) is a pretty convincing Moss-Man, IMO:
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    There is also a Fisto counterpart in the Irish mythology: Nuada Silverhand, a powerful warrior with a metallic hand and forearm:
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    And Scareglow, locally known as the Ankou or Death's workman, can be found in a number of churches in Brittany, western France:
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    Please tell me what you think and add your own MOTU lookalikes!
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    I understand where you are coming from but I think you are making a stretch of things. A really big one on the first one.

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    Sumerian He-Man



    Helios riding Apollyon
    This is the written description of Apollyon.
    "Head like a Lion
    Body armored like a scorpion
    Wearing a crown of Iron.
    "



    She-Ra and the Statue of Liberty



    Helios Mantel (Latin) = He-Man
    Also Apollo




    Helios = Apollo (Colossus of Rhodes)

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    Well, of course I'm reaching, that's part of the game!
    By the way, I think I've found a more convincing real-life Moss-Man:

    Quote Originally Posted by midor View Post
    I understand where you are coming from but I think you are making a stretch of things. A really big one on the first one.
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    Really interesting! The Statue of Liberty/She-Ra connection is brilliant, I had never thought of that
    But I'm a little bit confused about Apollyon, isn't it another name for the demon Abaddon (yeah, I looked on Wikipedia)? If so, I don't see how he is related to the greek god Helios?
    I would love to know where the description comes from.

    Quote Originally Posted by InThe80s View Post
    Sumerian He-Man

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...3725b291e1.jpg

    Helios riding Apollyon
    This is the written description of Apollyon.
    "Head like a Lion
    Body armored like a scorpion
    Wearing a crown of Iron.
    "

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...0d665ca86f.jpg

    She-Ra and the Statue of Liberty

    http://i.imgur.com/cS3MWVH.jpg

    Helios Mantel (Latin) = He-Man
    Also Apollo

    http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...psr0q273f0.jpg


    Helios = Apollo (Colossus of Rhodes)

    http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...pse1777b08.jpg
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    MOTU is actually chock full of archetypes that also appear in myth and legend. This isn't a surprise - most fiction tends to draw from this because it is such a rich source. Much of it might be changed a little to be "kid friendly" but its there in some form.
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    Yeah it's definitely got lots of archetypes from numerous myths and legends.

    Procrustus, possible inspired by the Greek Titan Atlas.

    New Adventures also has lots of Greek mythology references:

    Icarius, the original and International name for Flipshot, with his flying abilities is clearly a reference to Icarus, son of Daedalus who flew to close to the sun. Though coincidently there are actually two characters in Greek Myth with the name Icarius, see this thread:
    http://www.he-man.org/forums/boards/...d.php?t=130349

    Tatarus, the International and presumably the original name for Kayo, I've always though this was a reference to Tartarus, the lowest level of the underworld in Geek mythology.

    Sagitar, who is clearly based on a Centaur and can only be a reference to Sagittarius, a Centaur in Geek mythology, immortalized in a constellation of the same name.

    Darius, leader of the Galactic Guardians and Master of Weapons, is this a reference to Darius the Persian king who invaded ancient Greece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 13977 View Post
    Tatarus, the International and presumably the original name for Kayo, I've always though this was a reference to Tartarus, the lowest level of the underworld in Geek mythology.
    I thought it was a reference to the Tatars, a turkish people renowned for their bravery in battle (Kayo/Tatarus being the strongest of the Primus protectors).
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    A person could write an academic paper on all these different mythological inspirations - not that anyone other than me would probably be that interested in reading it.
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    We're already two. Guaranteed best-seller

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave-Man View Post
    A person could write an academic paper on all these different mythological inspirations - not that anyone other than me would probably be that interested in reading it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlyZarkov View Post
    We're already two. Guaranteed best-seller
    For an academic paper, a readership of two isn't so bad

    Might even get a captive audience of a dozen or so at a conference

    I'm surprised that no one's called out the Trinitarian aspect of the Goddess in her latest DC incarnation, which calls to mind various Godheads like the Trinity, the Morrigan, and the Trimurti.

    The Trimurti works especially well, in this case, not for imagery, but for the roles of each of the deific aspects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Streamside View Post
    I'm surprised that no one's called out the Trinitarian aspect of the Goddess in her latest DC incarnation, which calls to mind various Godheads like the Trinity, the Morrigan, and the Trimurti.

    The Trimurti works especially well, in this case, not for imagery, but for the roles of each of the deific aspects.
    This is true, and very interesting, but when I started this thread, I was just thinking lookalikes and not really religious symbolism. Aren't we supposed to go to the Tar Swamp for this kind of topic?
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    "Evoke" and the discussion of name meanings above is what put me on the symbolic trail. In that case, let's talk about a different "goddess."

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    And a heroic, super-strong man slaying a many-headed serpent (Hssss?):

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    ...which we see in the earlier Hindu God Ananta-Shesha / Shesha-Naga:

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    These are excellent! Speaking about hindu deities, we also have a perfect Chief Carnivus in Lord Narasimha.
    tumblr_o7hiq0pKwS1sjjdtyo1_500.jpg

    And the flying, heroic, hairy ape-man known as Hanuman is not unlike Stratos.
    giai-ma-bat-ngo-ve-than-khi-linh-thieng-nhat-the-gioi-hinh-8.jpg

    By the way, I think I've found your own avatar in the mayan mythology: Camazotz, the Bat of Death. Ain't he cute?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Streamside View Post
    "Evoke" and the discussion of name meanings above is what put me on the symbolic trail. In that case, let's talk about a different "goddess."

    isis-ph1.jpg

    And a heroic, super-strong man slaying a many-headed serpent (Hssss?):

    75fe028b52a74fc719b64c9c3c75cfea.jpg

    ...which we see in the earlier Hindu God Ananta-Shesha / Shesha-Naga:

    Nagas247566.JPG
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    Quote Originally Posted by Streamside View Post

    I'm surprised that no one's called out the Trinitarian aspect of the Goddess in her latest DC incarnation, which calls to mind various Godheads like the Trinity, the Morrigan, and the Trimurti.

    The Trimurti works especially well, in this case, not for imagery, but for the roles of each of the deific aspects.
    I hadn't read the comics in question. Besides the Holy Trinity of Christianity, you've also got the Maiden, Mother and Crone of Celtic lore, the Norns and the Fates, and I could probably dig up a ton more archetypes that show the various stages of age or the progression from child to wise person.
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    Can't believe I forgot the most obvious one… Here's Snout Spout (complete with his trademark axe) as the Hindu god Ganesha.

    ganesha_014.jpg

    Also, Roman era Germanic hero Arminius (or… “Hermann” in German ), sometimes identified with the dragonslayer Siegfried, is as close as a real-life He-Man as it gets.

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    Somehow, I never thought of Ganesha as putting out fires with his nose. He always seemed a little more classy than that. LOL.
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