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    Discuss your feelings about this picture.

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    Many of us traded action figures for Nintendo back in the days, at a age of around 10-13... But I know, what you mean...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berserker79 View Post
    Many of us traded action figures for Nintendo back in the days, at a age of around 10-13... But I know, what you mean...
    I think the image is a definition of these times, children of today and what is the reason why the action figures are no longer the main stars.
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    I think the real point is a child this age actually knowing how to operate an iPhone. When I was his age I was happy with a yo-yo and a Slinky. My Max was playing games on Kim's iPad -- at least it was her iPad until he got his hands on it -- when he was three. Just before his fourth birthday Kim got a call asking to verify that she'd purchased $350 worth of games in one day. You got it -- our little Max bought the games. The agent laughed and said this sort of thing happens once or twice a month. He was very nice, credited back the purchases and asked Kim to explain to Max that buying some games costs money. Kim did that and immediately afterwards locked down her credit card.

    Seriously, it does astound me how advanced and tech-savvy kids are today. I remember when our oldest son, Alex, first got into video games close to a decade ago. It always amazed me that he was six and seven years old and could get a new game and instantly know how to play it. I'm not a gamer, partly because I could just never get the hang of how to play them. Most likely that's because I'm an older guy. Kim told me Alex could play the games instantly because "gaming is his native tongue." By extension I realized she meant that it was a second language for me, and thus much more difficult. But I've always been in awe of the fact that kids pick it up so quickly and are somehow wired for it.

    When I a child the challenge for parents was to make children grow up faster. Today the challenge is to keep them young longer. In that regard I do think that action figures can play a positive role. Even more importantly, action figures and playsets allow children to use their creativity in a way that iPads and video games do not. There is certainly a place for both, but I can tell you that our Max has tons of action figures and playsets and he likes them every bit -- if not more -- that his iPad games.
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    Times change.

    Our generation were the first to experience action figures as a big deal, before that it had only been sporadic "doll" lines which never hit it big. There's no reason to believe that it would be around forever. Look at toy trains, those were a huuuuuge deal in the 40's and 50's and today mostly just older men still buy them...

    But yeah, it does make you a bit melancholy

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    What's to discuss?

    The kid prefers video games to action figures.

    I do as well so I can't say he is making the wrong choice.

    So my feelings towards this picture are...I have no feelings towards this picture, it simply is what it is
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsfang View Post
    So my feelings towards this picture are...I have no feelings towards this picture, it simply is what it is
    you have it, your feeling is The kid prefers video games to action figures.

    This is not a critique of the present, I think it's great and very positive children to interact with the technology, but also I think it has its downside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsfang View Post
    What's to discuss?

    The kid prefers video games to action figures.

    I do as well so I can't say he is making the wrong choice.

    So my feelings towards this picture are...I have no feelings towards this picture, it simply is what it is
    these days io prefer toys. I'd rather spend $30 on a collectible than a video game. I still love gaming but i don't find the time to get really into it yet - I still have to finish arkham asylum and start arkham city, but i LOVE the game, I'm looking fwd to origins but honestly I'm putting more effort into getting the figures than the game

    i look at the pic and think he's taking a toy break and playing some games. when I was a kid I was never just into one form of fun. we played nintendo, football, soccer, tag, hide and seek, man hunt, motu, transformers grandizer, voltron, the a-team, we'd build forts make big plans all summer long. when we dedicated time to say a water fight, the toys games and sports stuff stayed home (I carried my power sword and shield though to defend against water balloon attacks.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by krosfyah View Post
    these days io prefer toys. I'd rather spend $30 on a collectible than a video game. I still love gaming but i don't find the time to get really into it yet - I still have to finish arkham asylum and start arkham city, but i LOVE the game, I'm looking fwd to origins but honestly I'm putting more effort into getting the figures than the game
    I'm in the same boat. It's funny how at that young age we go from toys then to games consoles and for some us back to toys again completing the circle.

    Although admittedly I haven't been much of a gamer these past few years, for some reason I wanted to play Batman AA & AC. With Arkham Asylum, i've yet to finish it as I started playing it a few days ago. Weird thing is, i've completed Arkham City... IMO better than Asylum.
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    I prefer videogames to action figures. I collect MotUC, and I have my vintage stuff, but I don't really collect figures anymore. I pick up the odd one here and there, but really, Videogames are what most of my spendable money goes to.
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    My son is 9 and loves collecting action figures, and splits his time between gaming and playing. I don't think much has changed since i was his age, it's just that consoles, tablets, and laptops are a bigger part of life now and not to mention cheaper.

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    Get the kid some better toys!
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    This picture is an accurate representation of the current state of action figures.......

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    Depressing... This is my Brothers to a T. Born in '82, I'm all about the toys, them born in '86 and '89 can't pull them away from their Game Boxes. Don't get me wrong i like playing games, just not for 12-16 hours straight. Every now and then I will see them peak interest when I mention toys, but they are more excited about a new Final Fantasy or Call of Duty. Sad... And Depressing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benedict Judas Hel View Post
    Get the kid some better toys!
    Indeed, he has Max Steel and some unrecognized figures. Besides the Power Rangers, get him some DC, Marvel, Transformers, G.I.Joe, Star Wars and MOTU toys and he would dismiss ay Candy Crush or Angry Bird.

    Besides the joke, it is a pity that pic is a sign of current times and IMHO, it truncates some childplay imagination
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    I started to lean towards video games near the end of the 80s myself. I remember times my Masters were sitting in a corner and I was playing away at Mario... That said...

    Even after the NES made the first impact and video games got BIG, I didn't play them exclusively! I had a well-rounded childhood between toys, video games, and playing outside with my friends, and I would never trade that for more of one or the other. It was the balance that kept each thing fresh and exciting to me.

    Things are a lot different now, though.
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    you know what that pic says to me?

    That that one specific individual child (and therefor not a representative of children as a whole) would rather for that one moment in his life be playing video games. For all any of us know he could have just finished playing with those toys and decided to move his attention to something else.

    I mean do you spend the WHOLE day looking at your action figures or do you do other stuff as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsfang View Post
    you know what that pic says to me?

    That that one specific individual child (and therefor not a representative of children as a whole) would rather for that one moment in his life be playing video games. For all any of us know he could have just finished playing with those toys and decided to move his attention to something else.

    I mean do you spend the WHOLE day looking at your action figures or do you do other stuff as well?
    I must agree with this sentiment. It's very possible the timing of this photo has everything to do with it. That could have been me with an NES controller in my hand, or a game boy. It would have told ZILCH about my childhood to someone who didn't know me.
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    You're right that it's "possible". It's also possible a meteorite is going to fall in my backyard overnight. It's just not likely.

    So let's think about it -- which do you think sell more and takes up more playtime with today's children -- action figures or video games?

    Sorry to be the one to break the news, but U.S. sales of video games more than doubled between 2008 and 2010, up to $25 billion, while last year action figure and play-set sales had a double digit drop to $1.3 billion. Oh, and worldwide video game revenues were $67 billion.

    This isn't something I'm happy about. As I said, I believe action figures and play-sets are much more engaging for children's imaginations. But this is just the way it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Montork View Post
    I must agree with this sentiment. It's very possible the timing of this photo has everything to do with it. That could have been me with an NES controller in my hand, or a game boy. It would have told ZILCH about my childhood to someone who didn't know me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heeeere's Olesker! View Post
    You're right that it's "possible". It's also possible a meteorite is going to fall in my backyard overnight. It's just not likely.

    So let's think about it -- which do you think sell more and takes up more playtime with today's children -- action figures or videogames?
    We're not being fair here, objectively. The 80s were a golden age for toys. The 90s were pretty good too. Today's toys lack imagination, originality, flair, wonder. It's all cookie cutter, and technology is MUCH more advanced. Video games didn't start really making an impact till the mid to late 80s, and even then due to their very high prices were slow to take over. Toys today are much more expensive too, while video games never really left the $50-60 range. Back in the 80s you could get Castle Grayskull, a vehicle, and a few figures for the price of ONE game. Even in the mid 90s action figures were $5 a pop most places.

    If we had video games as advanced as today's at the beginning of the 80s, and not as large of a price gap between toys and video games as we did then, how do you think He-Man, Transformers, Voltron, and the rest would have fared?
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    Sad . What a waste of action figures.
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    My friends boys play with guns n video games. I've never seen them with an action figure. I guess it's a sign of the times.

    And when I saw that pic all I could think about was I hope their imagination hasn't died
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    I agree with you about the lack of creativity in today's toys -- the incredible work of the 4 Horsemen being a notable exception. But I disagree with you on price, as it relates to the 80s being an issue. The cost of three action figures and a vehicle purchased for $25 in 1980, when adjusted for inflation comes out to sixty-eight dollars in 2013 dollars -- about the cost of a top video game. So price-wise all things are about equal so when we're talking about action figures back in the 80s vs. video games of today -- price-wise, at least -- it's a level playing field.

    The thing that I think factors in most -- and this will sound odd coming from someone that's been a TV writer for over thirty years -- is television. Much of children's television makes it so easy for kids not to think and that's the death of creativity. As with the 4 Horsemen in the toy arena, there are wonderful and engaging exceptions in television, such as YO-GABBA-GABBA, DORA THE EXPLORER and others. The problem comes in when the audience demographic moves to eight years old and above. I'd love to see more series for older children that inspire creativity as there are for younger viewers. The same goes for video games, though I have noticed lately that there are a handful of video games moving in that direction, with real stories, fully developed characters and player-interaction. I find that hopeful as it's a lot better than just sitting there blowing zombies to pieces.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Montork View Post
    We're not being fair here, objectively. The 80s were a golden age for toys. The 90s were pretty good too. Today's toys lack imagination, originality, flair, wonder. It's all cookie cutter, and technology is MUCH more advanced. Video games didn't start really making an impact till the mid to late 80s, and even then due to their very high prices were slow to take over. Toys today are much more expensive too, while video games never really left the $50-60 range. Back in the 80s you could get Castle Grayskull, a vehicle, and a few figures for the price of ONE game. Even in the mid 90s action figures were $5 a pop most places.

    If we had video games as advanced as today's at the beginning of the 80s, and not as large of a price gap between toys and video games as we did then, how do you think He-Man, Transformers, Voltron, and the rest would have fared?

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