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    I like Filmation better :(

    I can't get into the MYP Productions He-man.

    I like Filmation's He-man and She-ra.

    Filmation's vision of the characters is better to me.

    Also, the artwork, drawing, ideas, concepts, and writing were more compelling and attractive.

    The special effects of He-man and She-ra's transformation sequences blow MYP out of the water.

    The Filmation cartoons had more heart, creativity, and emotion.

    Filmation's Sorceress was hotter than MYP's Sorceress.

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    I can't get into the Filmation He-man.

    I like MYP's He-man (there is no MYP She-Ra...thank the flying spaghetti monster)

    MYP's vision of the characters is better to me.

    Also, the artwork, drawing, ideas, concepts, and writing were more compelling and attractive.

    The special effects of He-man's transformation sequences blow Filmation out of the water.

    The MYP cartoons had more heart, creativity, and emotion.

    As for which Sorceress is hotter... I don't really care nor can I say. They are just pics so they are both equally NOT hot



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    I love them both! I grew up with the vintage series, then it went away for a while. Then I seen the commemorative series that lead to me finding out about the MYP (200X) series. My favorite episode is "The Power of Grayskull" for multiple reasons-> King Grayskull, Snake Armor King Grayskull, Battle Lion, Veena, Hordak, and Snake Armor He-Man. My favorite action figures from the series is Snake Armor He-Man, and the "Blood Red" variant of Skeletor. That's why I love 200X as much as the Original. It is such an awesome series. The art style is original, and fresh.
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    200X is better than Filmation in EVERY way apart from music.

    The 200X music was pretty much non existant and instantly forgettable.

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    I like MYP because of the pacing and action. Some of the character development is pretty cool. Don't like the designs for the most part, but there's some good story telling there.

    Still prefer Filmation, though.
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    The only thing I liked better about Filmation was the transformation sequence. All other elements were more cheesy and childish IMO. The characters were very one dimensional with the exception of a few. The myp series was a lot more mature and it took its audience and characters a lot more serious. Also the fact that there was a story arc that spanned more then one episode is much better then anything Filmation did IMO. I do wish though that they would have stayed closer to the horsemen designs. A prime example is whiplash which looks way better as a figure then as his animated counterpart.
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    I highly prefer FILMation over MYP.

    The music and background art of FILMation are so well done and unique and there really is no comparison when it comes to the transformation sequence.

    MYP was slightly more of a mature story line and aimed at an older target audience than FILMation was. I enjoyed the ongoing story line of MYP and enjoyed that new MOTU adventures were being told. For me, the biggest problems with MYP were the redesigns and some of the story lines that blatantly changed the mythos. Like King Grayskull being the source of the power of Grayskull, Marlena not being from Earth, etc.

    Much like the new DC comics, while not a fan of everything about MYP, I enjoyed it for what it was, new MOTU stories.
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    Glad you like Filmation as it has its charms but I find the excessively reused animation sequences, the lack of emotional expression on the character's faces, and the preachy storytelling to be pretty awful.

    In my assessment, MYP is far superior in both animation and storytelling.

    But honestly, I find the characterizations and stories in the original mini-comics to be more interesting and inspiring.

    I find both Sorceress' equally "hot" but the British accent does give the Filmation version an edge. But I'll take the Goddess over both of them.
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    MYP had better storytelling but the redesigns were terrible and the toys made everyone hideous deformed hunchbacks. So yeah, for everything else FILMATION was better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by He-Dad View Post
    MYP had better storytelling but the redesigns were terrible and the toys made everyone hideous deformed hunchbacks. So yeah, for everything else FILMATION was better.
    The only hunchback in the line was He-Man and they fixed that with the staction.

    Edit: oh and skeletor, but it fits his design IMO.
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    Everything about Filmation blows MYP out of the water. The stories, the art, the music, the characterization, the voice acting-everything was better. MYP had a lot of the typical clichéd things that we've seen in action/adventure toons over the last twenty or so years. There were a few decent episodes, but overall I was very disappointed with MYP. I actually enjoy the Filmation toons more now than I did when I was a kid. Filmation had a lot more heart to it, in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vancak View Post
    Everything about Filmation blows MYP out of the water. The stories, the art, the music, the characterization, the voice acting-everything was better. MYP had a lot of the typical clichéd things that we've seen in action/adventure toons over the last twenty or so years. There were a few decent episodes, but overall I was very disappointed with MYP. I actually enjoy the Filmation toons more now than I did when I was a kid. Filmation had a lot more heart to it, in my opinion.
    To each his own.. I grew up with Filmation and it's what got me into Masters of the Universe but man, was I disapointed when I saw the episodes again when the dvd's came out. I only like it out of sentimental reasons. I saw the Brave Star movie the other day and that's proof of what Filmation could have done. Mature story telling, good effects and less stock footage. Too bad they didn't do that with He-Man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dura_grip View Post
    Also, the artwork, drawing, ideas, concepts, and writing were more compelling and attractive.
    Everyone has their preferences and I can respect that but when you say the the writing was more compelling, that is just pure fantasy. Other than the 2 part Shokoti episodes, every episode was stand alone with no origin story or story arc of any kind. Continuity was nonexistent in the Filmation He-Man cartoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vancak View Post
    Everything about Filmation blows MYP out of the water. The stories, the art, the music, the characterization, the voice acting-everything was better. MYP had a lot of the typical clichéd things that we've seen in action/adventure toons over the last twenty or so years. There were a few decent episodes, but overall I was very disappointed with MYP. I actually enjoy the Filmation toons more now than I did when I was a kid. Filmation had a lot more heart to it, in my opinion.

    Again, to each their own but the stories and the voice acting? What stories? Over 130 episodes of He-Man and all of them stand alone episodes(Shokoti 2 part excluded) with ZERO continuity or carry over. You could miss the first 20, 30, 40, or 100 episodes of the series and jump right into it without having missed anything important from a story aspect. How is that possible? Because there was no story.

    As for the voice acting, it worked when I was little but Lou Scheimer was about 70% of the voices and he isn't Frank Welker so it quickly becomes obvious(painfully so) that the voice acting was bad because Filmation was cheap.

    I prefer the Filmation interpretation of Eternia because the world looks alien. I also prefer the transformation sequence and music but NO WAY did Filmation beat MYP in story telling or voice acting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by He-Dad View Post
    MYP had better storytelling but the redesigns were terrible and the toys made everyone hideous deformed hunchbacks. So yeah, for everything else FILMATION was better.
    I agree with that- especally Beast man. Some of the characters were so pumped up (like Trap Jaw). But I felt some were actually improved. Especally Evil Lyn, Orko, and Mer Man.
    I wasn't a fan of Skeletor's fangs or Teela's ridiculously long hair but they are my only gripes about their design.

    The main thing I don't like about the 2002 series is that it was a reboot and not a continuation. Because of the way Roboto is introduced it's clearly not a prequel either. But on the whole I think the 2002 series is just as good as the filmation. I just wish there were more as they seemed to evolve the characters. Even when Filmation did this with Teela's quest, everything was put back to normal again at the end. I'd loved to have seen the moment where Teela discovers Adam is He man and moves into Grayskull. If nothing else it may force an apology for all the remarks about Adam's cowardace.
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    I think Orko and Evil-Lyn (the grey skin, while better than yellow, is still off-putting) look significantly better in the Filmation series.

    Mer-Man was a major improvement. Clawful was a big step back.
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    Filmation He-Man/She-Ra was cool and it has a lot of cool characters but it seems dated and unbelievable to me as and adult (Still like it though)

    But for a more "real" version MYP MOTU was better

    See in Filmation the good guys always won and no one died and everyone agreed that they were doing wrong and saw the errors of their ways (Except Skeletor and the Evil Warriors)

    Filmation made Skeletor a buffon where as MYP made him as a REAL threat

    And Price Adam was a KID not some guy that got a suntan when he changed into He-Man...

    Like I said Filmation for it's time was cool and still has a place but seeing it years later as an adult it was one sided not realistic like in MYP And MYP had a lot of cool things that Filmation couldn't (or wouldn't do) like Stinkor,showing Keldor become Skeletor etc.

    Funny thing about Stinkor Lou thought that he would be a running fart joke but MYP he was a threat and no joke... And some people will think Filmation was the be all end all over NA & MYP

    No.....That would be nostalgia talking....
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    The Filmation music and choreography captured the audience's emotion and attention.

    "The Secret of the Sword" was the greatest continuity story ever.

    The first time Adora changes into She-ra, in "She-ra Unchained", was one of the greatest, most joyous moments of my life.

    The way all those Filmation characters were drawn was phenomenal. They were the way the characters were meant to look like. To me, they were the incarnation of who those characters were.

    The design concepts and background drawings were so innovative. It sucked you in, like you were actually there.

    Also, Filmation had Bob Forward and J. Michael Straczynski on top of Larry Ditillio.

    And the team of voice actors John Erwin, Melendy Britt, Linda Gary, Alan Oppenheimer, George Dicenzo, Eric Gunden. They were the epitomy of He-man, She-ra, Orko, Skeletor, The Sorceress, Man-At-Arms, Hordak, etc. So much so that anybody who would come after them would be a let-down.

    It just goes to show you that Filmation imagination and creativity with cell animation beats computer-generated technology.

    Finally, the Filmation females were the best-looking. Adora alone was the most beautiful girl in the universe, inside and out.
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    "I disagree, it's a very good game, but I think Donkey Kong is the best game ever."

    Kidding aside, I grew up with the Filmation cartoon and absolutely loved it. It was probably my favorite cartoon when I was 5. I didn't see the MYP cartoon until a few months ago, and I watched every episode on Netflix. I thought it was very well done and enjoyed it immensely. So there you go, I like them both.

    I have no interest in the 200X toys though. I'd love to see them redone to be more like the Classics toys.

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    first, let me just say that i like them both...but i love the FILMATION show. comparing them feels a lot like comparing a classic model of sports car with it's modern counterpart. the latter has more features, but the former has more personality.

    for all of the new and improved that the MYP series brought to the table, i feel like a lot of the personality that filmation brought to he-man was lost. the latter was iconic, and most of the improvements that MYP was able to implement was due to significantly less restrictions (a bigger budget, outsourcing animation, much less restrictions on violence, etc...). an example of this would be skeletor's presence as a credible threat.

    the serialized storyline for MYP was great, but was not as inviting to new viewers. MYP tried to be more sophisticated and "mature" with it's stories and characterization. the problem was that they didn't go far enough. filmation made the ridiculous qualities of MOTU seem endearing. MYP often made them look awkward. you've got this sophisticated (for a daytime cartoon) story going on, and then someone exclaims, "Lord Buzz-Off, Fisto needs our help!!"

    either embrace the silliness or don't. go all the way sophisticated or don't. having 60% sophisticated and 40% silly just draws attention to the silly in a bad way.

    and as far as adam being an obvious kid in the MYP series...i don't count that as an improvement. as far as i'm concerned the power of grayskull is capable of clouding the minds of he-man's friends and family, cutting off their ability to recognize that they are one and the same unless the secret is revealed. they can see it physically, but the spell keeps them from making the connection, mentally. this is a world of magic we're dealing with after all.

    the women of filmation were drawn in a much more appealing way as well. for me, sorceress, teela, and evil-lyn were cartoon crushes. the best thing MYP had was anything involving Keldor, or Stinkor...but i hated the snake armor He-Man wore. For all the grief that filmation got for producing a half hour toy commercial, i felt MYP was more blatant in showcasing variant armors and such just to sell figures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megalodon View Post
    Filmation made Skeletor a buffon where as MYP made him as a REAL threat
    Yeah, Filmation Skeletor WAS A JOKE! MYP Skeletor was ruthless! Especially when he hunted down Evil-Lyn to kill her for siding with King Hiss. He had no remorse whatsoever. The REAL "Evil Lord of Destruction" in MYP also took on both He-Man and King Randor in a sword fight. Yes, a sword fight in a sword and sorcery based franchise! Who would have guessed?

    In Filmation, He-Man and Skeletor did a lot of talking and standing around. One thing they never did, was fight each other with weapons.


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    And Price Adam was a KID not some guy that got a suntan when he changed into He-Man...
    In Filmation's defense, they originally planned to make Prince Adam look differently but like they did quite often in their interpretation of He-Man, they kept Prince Adam looking exactly like He-Man to save some cash. Better story telling be damned!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vancak View Post
    I never once felt that the Filmation shows were toy commercials. With MYP, almost every episode seemed like a toy commercial. Filmation had heart, while MYP was empty.
    Agreed. But honestly that was one of the things I LIKED about MYP... Filmation SUCKED as a toy commercial. None of the TOYS looked anything LIKE the cartoon. Merman? Clawful? Snake mountain? King Randor? Sorceress? Attack Trak... Wind Raider?? ... none of them translated well to the toys. I spent a LOT of time wondering WHERE the rest of Man at arms armor was for example or why I had to play with a 'battle armor' He-man instead of the 'real' he-man...

    It was a TERRIBLE commercial.

    MYP however?? There were a LOT of variants floating around in that series and they matched the toys pretty well and gave kids a legitimate REASON to want a 'snake armor' or samurai armor version...


    Quote Originally Posted by MasterCollector View Post
    Yeah, Filmation Skeletor WAS A JOKE! MYP Skeletor was ruthless!
    Filmation was only SOMETIMES a joke... or even most times, I'll concede that... but I STILL remember a time where Evil-lyn and XXXXXx was planning a coup with some unstoppable magic spell... and skeletor walks in.

    Evil Lynn screams out how she's finally got the power to stop him or something... and blasts him. He holds up his hand and stops the blast cold. And in a chilling voice just says 'I am NOT amused....'

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    Filmation had Adora and She-ra. That automatically puts it above MYP.

    You can't create a more gorgeous incarnation of a character.

    She was the best!
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    200X Evil Lyn is hotter, cartoon wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDKNB View Post
    200X Evil Lyn is hotter, cartoon wise.
    Really? She looks kind of old in the MYP series, particularly during certain shots. And the costume is much less attractively colored and lacks a cape. She also has sickly grey skin, which is better than the yellow in the vintage figure, but worse than the Filmation depiction.

    I thought all the women in the MYP series looked much worse than their Filmation concepts.
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