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    200X Timeline

    I tired to find something in the Search, but has anyone tired to put together a timeline of He-History?
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    hmm....since you're asking this in the "new masters" forum, I would assume you are asking what the timeline is for thta...with King Grayskull and whatnots...

    Or are you asking a timeline that is in the classic cartoon to new adventures of He-Man cartoon....

    Or are you asking the whole works, including mini-comics, books, comics, cartoons and all that.

    Or what precisely?
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    Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think all of the series actually form a coherent timeline.

    For example, in the Classic series, Hordak invaded Eternia when Adam and Adora were infants and was alive and kicking on Etheria throughout the time depicted in the MOTU series. In the 200X series, Hordak was banished to Despondos in the Ancient times, where he stayed throughout the 200X series. Maybe I'm just not creative enough, but I don't think those two are reconcilable.

    In any case, you brought up an interesting point... It would be interesting to see a timeline of each series. Although the 200X seemed contradictory in itself. Am I crazy or did Season 1 say that Zodak and the Council of Elders banished the Snake Men into the Void... And then Season 2 said that Hordak defeated the Snake Men? I guess both of those can be true, but it just seemed a little off to me.

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    It's probably best not to try to link the Classic and 200X shows together.


    There are so many inconsistencies between the two, you'll only end up tying yourself in knots.

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    I think the period before and after the intro to “The Beginning” is the hardest to pin down. We don’t even know if Randor was married to Marlena or if Adam (and Adora—sorry, I consider her an inseparable part of this) was born when he became King. We don’t know how the Hall of Wisdom disappeared or how the Mystic Wall was set up.

    As far as the ancient history goes, my understanding is that it went something like this:

    Hordak casts spell of separation.
    Snake Men challenge him and all Eternia.
    Horde fights Snake Men and defeats them.
    King Grayskull battles Hordak, banishes him to Despondos
    Grayskull dies and Elders come to power
    Snake Men rise again
    Elders imprison Serpos in Snake Mountain
    *He-Ro and the Council of Wisdom fight Snake Men, city of Zalecia destroyed (all as seen in the comics)
    Zeelar and Zodak get involved, Zeelar dies, Zodak swears revenge
    Snake Men are banished
    A long time passes and then Miro (Randor and Keldor’s father) comes along.

    If you're looking to retcon all that with the classic and New Adventures time lines, I have no idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gbagok
    I think the period before and after the intro to “The Beginning” is the hardest to pin down. We don’t even know if Randor was married to Marlena or if Adam (and Adora—sorry, I consider her an inseparable part of this) was born when he became King. We don’t know how the Hall of Wisdom disappeared or how the Mystic Wall was set up.

    As far as the ancient history goes, my understanding is that it went something like this:

    Hordak casts spell of separation.
    Snake Men challenge him and all Eternia.
    Horde fights Snake Men and defeats them.
    King Grayskull battles Hordak, banishes him to Despondos
    Grayskull dies and Elders come to power
    Snake Men rise again
    Elders imprison Serpos in Snake Mountain
    *He-Ro and the Council of Wisdom fight Snake Men, city of Zalecia destroyed (all as seen in the comics)
    Zeelar and Zodak get involved, Zeelar dies, Zodak swears revenge
    Snake Men are banished
    A long time passes and then Miro (Randor and Keldor’s father) comes along.

    If you're looking to retcon all that with the classic and New Adventures time lines, I have no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage
    It's probably best not to try to link the Classic and 200X shows together.


    There are so many inconsistencies between the two, you'll only end up tying yourself in knots.
    I think it's possible to mesh the two. But only if you concider one of the two dominant to the other. Know what I mean?
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    I think you can combine elements of one with elements of the other.


    That would create a whole continuity in and of itself, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage
    That would create a whole continuity in and of itself, however.

    Don't think so. The continuity could stay the same, you'd just have to pick one. I would say the "new" continuity, since it was based on the original and is ay more coherant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAPPER
    KEEP IT COMING gbagok this is great!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Wish I could take credit for it, but it's what the TV show and the comic gave us. I’m a little fuzzy on what the sequence of events was after Miro came into the scene.

    He had two kids, Keldor and Randor
    He defeated Count Marzo
    Randor became a Captain same as Miro
    Keldor built an army (seen in Icons of Evil and Price of Deceit)
    Keldor marched on the Hall of Wisdom
    Elders made Randor the King of Eternia
    Randor fought Keldor, Keldor’s face was burned off
    Keldor became Skeletor
    Mystic Wall went up
    Teela-Na became pregnant with Teela
    The Great Unrest (I think, or maybe Keldor’s uprising was the Great Unrest?)
    Randor got the leg brace (I assume in battle, but maybe he just sprained something)
    Hall of Wisdom disappeared (or is destroyed)
    Palace of Eternia built by an architect who was a fan of the Hall of Wisdom
    Skeletor broke through Mystic Wall
    Randor’s son Prince Adam becomes He-Man

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    Some fan over at he-man.de did this chronology including everything:
    cartoons, movie, comics. all four series included.
    Sorry in german only:
    http://www.he-man.de/chrono/chrono.php
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    Translated...

    The Timeline translated This mostly what Im looking for
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    It might just have gotten lost in the translation, but I didn't see any mention of the Snake and Ape Clans from the Time Corridor (at least, not prior to Marlena's appearance). It also drops any mention of King Grayskull, and Evil-Lyn is an astronaut and not the daughter of the Faceless One. To be honest, those are not parts I'd throw away if I was going to combine the old and new continuities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbagok
    As far as the ancient history goes, my understanding is that it went something like this:

    Hordak casts spell of separation.
    Snake Men challenge him and all Eternia.
    Horde fights Snake Men and defeats them.
    King Grayskull battles Hordak, banishes him to Despondos
    Grayskull dies and Elders come to power
    Snake Men rise again
    Elders imprison Serpos in Snake Mountain
    *He-Ro and the Council of Wisdom fight Snake Men, city of Zalecia destroyed (all as seen in the comics)
    Zeelar and Zodak get involved, Zeelar dies, Zodak swears revenge
    Snake Men are banished
    A long time passes and then Miro (Randor and Keldor’s father) comes along.

    If you're looking to retcon all that with the classic and New Adventures time lines, I have no idea.
    Buuut.... how can the Spell of Seperation come before Zeelar's demise, Snake Mt was in a lush forest then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oICEMANo
    Buuut.... how can the Spell of Seperation come before Zeelar's demise, Snake Mt was in a lush forest then.
    I think someone from MYP said that the jungle setting was a mistake. It would have to be, wouldn't it?

    Zeelar was killed in Snake Mountain.

    The Elders imprisoned Serpos, which created Snake Mountain.

    The Elders were created when Grayskull died and Hordak was banished.

    Hordak cast the Spell of Separation before he was banished to Despondos.

    I suppose you could speculate that Hordak somehow found a way to manifest himself on Eternia after his battle with Grayskull, but I don't think anything happened to show that he could ever do that. Also Zalecia appears to be in the Dark Hemisphere when Grayskull goes there in "Powers of Grayskull." But that could have just been night time, because it looks like the light hemisphere when he sees the Oracle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbagok
    It might just have gotten lost in the translation, but I didn't see any mention of the Snake and Ape Clans from the Time Corridor (at least, not prior to Marlena's appearance). It also drops any mention of King Grayskull, and Evil-Lyn is an astronaut and not the daughter of the Faceless One. To be honest, those are not parts I'd throw away if I was going to combine the old and new continuities.
    Not even STAR TREK can keep its continuities straight!

    You REALLY want to see some anal retentive fans? Try spending some time on a Trek BBS ("This violates the continuity previously established in Episode 'Yadda Yadda Yadda', S4, 'Star Trek: Blah Blah Blah'." )



    If Trek can't do it, why should we expect MOTU to do any better?
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    200X Timeline

    Will we get a definitive timeline for who was where and at what time? With 200X/MYP, there has always been some confusion as to when certain events took place in the scheme of things. Is there are firm timeline at all? Will we ever get to know? Val?

    If any one thinks they know, lets hear it and see if we can figure it out

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbagok View Post

    *He-Ro and the Council of Wisdom fight Snake Men, city of Zalecia destroyed (all as seen in the comics)
    Thread from history but where in comics was this He-Ro thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasted View Post
    Thread from history but where in comics was this He-Ro thing?
    In the Volume3. I forget which issue. Maybe 4th.... When King Hsss visits The Faceless one at Zalesia, there is wallpainting that shows He-Ro fighting SnakeMen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oICEMANo View Post
    Buuut.... how can the Spell of Seperation come before Zeelar's demise, Snake Mt was in a lush forest then.
    This always bothered me too. I guess you can explain by saying it was a flashback/dream by Zodac so it doenst have to be 100% accurate.
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    Well here is what Gbagok wrote

    Hordak casts spell of separation.
    Snake Men challenge him and all Eternia.
    Horde fights Snake Men and defeats them.
    King Grayskull battles Hordak, banishes him to Despondos
    Grayskull dies and Elders come to power
    Snake Men rise again
    Elders imprison Serpos in Snake Mountain
    *He-Ro and the Council of Wisdom fight Snake Men, city of Zalecia destroyed (all as seen in the comics)
    Zeelar and Zodak get involved, Zeelar dies, Zodak swears revenge
    Snake Men are banished
    A long time passes and then Miro (Randor and Keldor’s father) comes along.
    He had two kids, Keldor and Randor
    He defeated Count Marzo
    Randor became a Captain same as Miro
    Keldor built an army (seen in Icons of Evil and Price of Deceit)
    Keldor marched on the Hall of Wisdom
    Elders made Randor the King of Eternia
    Randor fought Keldor, Keldor’s face was burned off
    Keldor became Skeletor
    Mystic Wall went up
    Teela-Na became pregnant with Teela
    The Great Unrest (I think, or maybe Keldor’s uprising was the Great Unrest?)
    Randor got the leg brace (I assume in battle, but maybe he just sprained something)
    Hall of Wisdom disappeared (or is destroyed)
    Palace of Eternia built by an architect who was a fan of the Hall of Wisdom
    Skeletor broke through Mystic Wall
    Randor’s son Prince Adam becomes He-Man
    Of course he wrote that Teela-Na became pregnant after the great unrest. But didn't she meet Dun... Her husband during the great unrest? Then of course it's a shame we never learned when Randor met Marlena. And that she became pregnant with Adam and....? during the same time Teela-Na did? After all both Adam and Teela are 16 years old in the MYP series. So much back story I wish was filled in!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gbagok
    A long time passes and then Miro (Randor and Keldor’s father) comes along.
    He had two kids, Keldor and Randor
    I realize this comes from a brief overview timeline.

    I was just wondering: Was the whole Randor and Keldor are half brothers/Illumina has Miro's illegitimate child (Keldor) a storyline that was created for the MYP show, or was Illumina a piece of conceptual art (by Emiliano methinks...?) whose origin and rumours of her origin took on a life of their own?

    I'm guessing it may have been part of the new school comics canon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Prozac View Post
    I realize this comes from a brief overview timeline.

    I was just wondering: Was the whole Randor and Keldor are half brothers/Illumina has Miro's illegitimate child (Keldor) a storyline that was created for the MYP show, or was Illumina a piece of conceptual art (by Emiliano methinks...?) whose origin and rumours of her origin took on a life of their own?

    I'm guessing it may have been part of the new school comics canon?
    Don't know about Illumina being a concept at MYP that MVC was going to use.

    I always got the impression that Illumina was MVC creation.


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    And no, as I said many times: Illumina isn't related to Keldor in any way!
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    So when do we think King Hsss actually ruled Eternia? I figured it happened long before King Grayskull. But if that were the case, where did he rule from if there wasn't a Snake Mountain until much later?

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