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  • He Will Always Be One Of Skeletor's Evil Warriors!!!

    21 13.55%
  • He Is A Proud Member Of The Snake Men!!!

    31 20.00%
  • He Is On Skeletor's Team But Is Reporting To King Hiss!!!

    25 16.13%
  • He Works With The Snake Men But Is Reporting To Skeletor!!!

    15 9.68%
  • He Isn't Faithful To Anyone But Himself!!!

    54 34.84%
  • He's Waiting To See Who Has The Best Chance Of Defeating The Heroic Warriors!!!

    7 4.52%
  • He Wants To Know Why Everyone Can't Just Get Along!!!

    1 0.65%
  • Other(please explain)!!!

    1 0.65%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Shokoti View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Shokoti View Post
    I sometimes tend to think of mine as scrambled rather than sunny side up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    I gave you facts from episodes as well as what we know of the characters in their incarnations. No personal speculation here.
    As did I. Only difference is I never asserted mine was more "logical" and therefore implying more correctness of thought...

    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    This is Khan under Skeletor:
    This is Khan under Hssss:
    Selective memory. I could do the same with Filmation screen shots to show the opposite if I cared enough to. A little help, Count Mizzo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benedict Judas Hel View Post
    Selective memory. I could do the same with Filmation screen shots to show the opposite if I cared enough to. A little help, Count Mizzo?
    How like a heel, to get outside assistance! Fight your own battles Evil One! Besides, Marzo can't save you--he doesn't have the stamina for such debates and HE KNOWS IT! Good triumphs!!!

    You can't show the opposite. There's no King Hssss or Snake Men group in Filmation. Khan is stuck being an Evil Warrior by default because Filmation stopped producing episodes before they had a chance to animate King Hssss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    How like a heel, to get outside assistance! Fight your own battles Evil One! Besides, Marzo can't save you--he doesn't have the stamina for such debates and HE KNOWS IT! Good triumphs!!!
    Oh, I don't need help from an argumentative standpoint from Count Marzo, just some Filmation screen shots. I haven't even begun to bring my A-game. Right now I'm at C-Level, at best, and it seems more than enough to hold my own.

    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    You can't show the opposite. There's no King Hssss or Snake Men group in Filmation. Khan is stuck being an Evil Warrior by default because Filmation stopped producing episodes before they had a chance to animate King Hssss.
    But I can show how Kobra Khan has a high standing among the Evil Warriors in the Filmation series, thereby blowing your "mistreated by a thug" theory out of the water. Boom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benedict Judas Hel View Post
    Oh, I don't need help from a argumentative standpoint from Count Marzo. I haven't even begun to bring my A-game. Right now I'm at C-Level, at best, and it seems more than enough to hold my own.
    You're going to need your A-game to debate that Khan is better off with Skeletor than Hssss. Quite tough to do this when the only canon that outright has the two of them as separate groups is 200X/MYP.

    But I can show how Kobra Khan has a high standing among the Evil Warriors in the Filmation series, thereby blowing your "mistreated by a thug" theory out of the water. Boom.
    That's not "high standing". Khan's partner-in-crime Webstor could repeatedly talk back to Skeletor in Filmation without punishment. Even Clawful did this to Skeletor's face and he was the second-in-command. No way would that happen in MYP. Any one who dared to do this would get zapped.

    "Mistreated as a thug" holds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    You can't show the opposite. There's no King Hssss or Snake Men group in Filmation. Khan is stuck being an Evil Warrior by default because Filmation stopped producing episodes before they had a chance to animate King Hssss.
    What about the mini-comics? They portray Kobra Khan as an Evil Warrior, and King Hiss and the Snakemen exist in that continuity.

    Bottom line to me is, Khan is going to side with whomever is more powerful and who he feels will come out on top.

    I think Khan would rather be a part of the most evil group of warriors terrorizing Eternia, even if he's mistreated, rather than become a hide decorating the walls of Snake Mountain when the Overlord of Evil destroys King Hiss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dedset13 View Post
    What about the mini-comics? They portray Kobra Khan as an Evil Warrior, and King Hiss and the Snakemen exist in that continuity.

    Bottom line to me is, Khan is going to side with whomever is more powerful and who he feels will come out on top.

    I think Khan would rather be a part of the most evil group of warriors terrorizing Eternia, even if he's mistreated, rather than become a hide decorating the walls of Snake Mountain when the Overlord of Evil destroys King Hiss.
    Nice, dedset. Something that I did not consider--The vintage Snake Men were basically a subgroup of Evil Warriors. They were so powerless they needed asylum with Skeletor. So Khan would side with Skeletor because he was the strongest.

    Okay, now I get how it could work. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dedset13 View Post
    What about the mini-comics? They portray Kobra Khan as an Evil Warrior, and King Hiss and the Snakemen exist in that continuity.

    Bottom line to me is, Khan is going to side with whomever is more powerful and who he feels will come out on top.

    I think Khan would rather be a part of the most evil group of warriors terrorizing Eternia, even if he's mistreated, rather than become a hide decorating the walls of Snake Mountain when the Overlord of Evil destroys King Hiss.
    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    Nice, dedset. Something that I did not consider--The vintage Snake Men were basically a subgroup of Evil Warriors. They were so powerless they needed asylum with Skeletor. So Khan would side with Skeletor because he was the strongest.

    Okay, now I get how it could work. Thanks.
    See? I didn't even have to bust out the mini-comics. Or my A-game, like I said I wouldn't need to. And I was right. 2 canons out of 3 would favor Kobra Khan as an Evil Warrior. And I'm not even saying "definitively", just favoring. I wouldn't be so quick to say something in that manner when it's based on conjecture and personal interpretation. Good going my evil ally, dedset13! AoE 4 Life!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    Nothing is ever "wrapped up" when the old plots of the vintage line butts heads with the new storylines of the 200X/MYP era.

    You have fans who grew up with Kobra Khan being an Evil Warrior versus the fans who think that it's more logical for him to side with King Hssss.
    Quote Originally Posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    Nice, dedset. Something that I did not consider--The vintage Snake Men were basically a subgroup of Evil Warriors. They were so powerless they needed asylum with Skeletor. So Khan would side with Skeletor because he was the strongest.

    Okay, now I get how it could work. Thanks.
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    He's an Evil Warrior. Though he seems to have amnesia. Forgetting what his true identity & role are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Shokoti View Post
    The latest round of bios gave me another reason to ignore them.
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    Khan is the type to have a cowardly nature when push comes to shove. He would definitely swear allegiance to Hiss but when Hiss is gone, he would definitely be kneeling before Skeletor or even to Hordak. I really did like sulfuric acid replacing the sleep mist which made Khan more dangerous. Never liked MYP Khan for being a groveling idiot. I sure wish Scott McNeil didn't give him Dinobot's voice.

    Still, he was treated much better by Hiss so I'm putting Khan next to his King.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RocketPunch View Post
    Himself.

    He's like the Starscream of MOTU, just waiting for the right moment to backstab both Skeletor & King Hiss and take over.
    That is perfect. I also voted himself but RocketPunch summed it up nicely

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    i really like myp 200x story.
    beside i dont like that skeletor has all the allies.
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    I think, in the long run, Khan will ultimately serve himself-he'll join with whomever is most likely to defeat the heroes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RocketPunch View Post
    Himself.

    He's like the Starscream of MOTU, just waiting for the right moment to backstab both Skeletor & King Hiss and take over.
    That's how I see him as well!
    He is a Cobra after all, and Cobra's are the Kings of the Snakes!
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    Long story short: he is an Evil Warrior. If he does decide to switch sides, he only does so because he thinks it's better for his own sake. In the end, he learns that he has the best shot with the Overlord of Destructrion. Ergo: he is an Evil Warrior.
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    working covert for skelly reporting to Hsss. but skelly knows. he must.
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    In my collection he's reporting to Hiss and sometimes pretends to be one of Skelly's minions, but Hiss doesn't realize he's really only in it for himself (and he'll stab Hiss in the back and take his throne if he just bides his time and ever gets the right chance)
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    I actually gave him a character arc. His allegiance changes over time.
    Kobra Khan starts out as an Evil Warrior but joins the Snake Men when they show up. While he is treated well, he really hates Hssss, so he starts spying for Skeletor. When King Hiss is dead, the other high ranking Snake Men make Khan the new king because they think they can control him. They can't and neither can Skeletor at this point. Kobra Khan is now doing his own thing.
    However, that's not Classics canon. In the Classics, it looks like Khan ist ultimately loyal to Skeletor.

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    He wants all the power and respect
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