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    Is Bravestarr a spin-off of He-Man?

    I have stumbled into a debate in my favorite MOTU/POP/NA facebook group Shadow Weaver's Realm. Apparently it's old news that Bravestarr was a second spin-off of He-Man, but I can't find any info anywhere online stating this.

    The only thing I've been able to come up with is that Bravestarr evolved out of Filmation's Ghostbusters cartoon series: http://articles.latimes.com/1986-12-21/magazine/tm-3736_1_bravestarr-toy


    According to this article, Tex Hex was developed for the Ghostbusters show, but Lou Scheimer liked him so much that he decided to develop an entire show around him - thus Bravestarr was born...

    Does anybody have definitive information - or know where I could look to put this debate to rest, at least in my mind?
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    Originally it was supposed to be a spin off, but the idea was scrapped.
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    The original pilot script was suppose involve He-man and Skeletor. Bravestaff was suppose to exist in the same universe, but Filmation scrapped the idea.

    I think its for the best.
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    Where is this info coming from?
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    Oh, I don't know. I think it would be kinda cool if He-Man and Bravestarr (and even Blackstar) were all in the same universe. It'd be neat to tie them all together somehow (plus I wouldn't mind those figures in MOTUC form if it were ever possible). Just my thoughts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mykan View Post
    Where is this info coming from?
    I can't remember for sure, but possibly from the BCI's produced Bravestarr DVD Special Feature Documents.
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    Well as far as I'm concerned, Bravestarr should have little to nothing to do with He-Man, intention or no.

    But Blackstar's world? Hehehe, yeah, that should be officially Eternia's predecessor!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bskcase View Post
    The original pilot script was suppose involve He-man and Skeletor. Bravestaff was suppose to exist in the same universe, but Filmation scrapped the idea.

    I think its for the best.
    I don't remember if Skeletor was there as well, but yes, He-Man would have appaeared in the pilot and Bravestarr was going to be inspired by him.
    It's in a old Filmation document. I don't remember if we showed it in the DVD, but I'm pretty sure it was me or Busta disclosing this information

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistico View Post
    Oh, I don't know. I think it would be kinda cool if He-Man and Bravestarr (and even Blackstar) were all in the same universe. It'd be neat to tie them all together somehow (plus I wouldn't mind those figures in MOTUC form if it were ever possible). Just my thoughts.
    Blackstar, yeah. You could easily have him to have been sent to find and rescue Marlena Glenn.
    But Bravestarr's problematic as he's set in the 23rd century as it would had been kinda imagined in the 19th century.

    Quote Originally Posted by Emiliano View Post
    It's in a old Filmation document. I don't remember if we showed it in the DVD, but I'm pretty sure it was me or Busta disclosing this information
    Can you show it now?
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    I'd like it to be the same universe, it would be a good way to make Rio Blast relevant to MOTU. I'd love figures of Vypra and Stampede!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emiliano View Post
    I don't remember if Skeletor was there as well, but yes, He-Man would have appaeared in the pilot and Bravestarr was going to be inspired by him.
    It's in a old Filmation document. I don't remember if we showed it in the DVD, but I'm pretty sure it was me or Busta disclosing this information
    Thanks, Emiliano!

    Looks like that LA Times article got it wrong, or maybe both are true? Either way, I'll be renting the Bravestarr DVDs and checking out the extras/documentaries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimbot View Post
    But Bravestarr's problematic as he's set in the 23rd century as it would had been kinda imagined in the 19th century.
    Perhaps he happens (or could happen) when He-Man & She-Ra go to the future. They meet Rio-Blast & he ends up going back to Eternia with them after they save Primus from the Horde & Mutants. Then Bravestarr could meet He-Man, be inspired by him, & go on to be the newest hero.

    ...At least it makes sense to me.

    (Too bad it was Galoob that made the Blackstar toys instead of Mattel, or we could potentially have all 3 series made in the MOTUC.)
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    What about a new thread: 'Is He-Man a spin-off of Blackstar' ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monteeg View Post
    What about a new thread: 'Is He-Man a spin-off of Blackstar' ?
    That would be a "NO."

    As far as Skeletor being there or not, I'll bow to Emiliano's knowledge. I just remember I casually saw that somewhere a long long time.

    I'm kind of glad it didn't go that way. Blackstar had it's own vibe and style. It was really cool, but I just don't think they would really work together cuz they are so similar.
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    Blackstarr was the building blocks for the flimation cartoon. James busta would tell the story better I'm sure.
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    Who knows yet Mattel did the action figures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killian View Post
    I'd like it to be the same universe, it would be a good way to make Rio Blast relevant to MOTU. I'd love figures of Vypra and Stampede!
    If James Eatock is looking for a project after Return of Faker, IMHO, a Bravestarr crossover would be a fun fan film, particularly if you sandwich Rio Blast in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistico View Post
    Oh, I don't know. I think it would be kinda cool if He-Man and Bravestarr (and even Blackstar) were all in the same universe. It'd be neat to tie them all together somehow (plus I wouldn't mind those figures in MOTUC form if it were ever possible). Just my thoughts.

    Its a big universe . Why not ? Tex Hex , Stampede , Whomever that Blackstar villain was has so much more in common with Eternia than Plundarr the evil purple pollution bunny .

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    I'm all for anything that expands the universe. Kinda wish it did happen as a spinoff. It wouldn't hurt either property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokus View Post
    Its a big universe . Why not ? Tex Hex , Stampede , Whomever that Blackstar villain was has so much more in common with Eternia than Plundarr the evil purple pollution bunny .
    I agree and there is fanfiction stories where fans have done crossovers.
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    It would have been cooler if the cartoon and toys had been a spin off from MOTU.

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    I've always viewed bravestarr as an expanded part of he man's universe would love to see a one off team up someday.

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    If you want it to be connected, it is.

    I think the one seam to discuss or iron out would be the timeline setting of both series. Queen Marlena came from Earth, but a "near future" Earth. Whereas Bravestarr seemed to be set in a "far future".

    Of course, with time warps, magic spells and dimension-hopping, anything can be tied together.

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